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ACA is Imploding - Places Where NO ObamaCare Plans Will Be Available for 2018.

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posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 10:17 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
To be honest. I don't think the government should get involved in healthcare in the first place. Don't feel well? Take a tylenol. There are plenty of drug stores out there. The insurance companies are too powerful in the US. The US is one of the very few developed states that does not have universal healthcare because of insurance lobby.


It's not just the "insurance lobby". Doctors and Medical facilities would need to accept a significant pay cut if the USA went to Universal Healthcare. No more $1,000 @ day for a semi-private room, or $40,000 for a gallbladder removal.

Their lobby is FAR more powerful and influential than the health insurance companies.




posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 10:24 PM
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Actually, the US is the ONLY developed state that does not have universal healthcare. The reason is simple, the insurance companies have too much political power and they block it.

en.wikipedia.org...

Nevertheless, personally, I do not believe in universal healthcare as much as I do not believe in socialism. Wherever there is socialism, there is chaos.
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posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
Actually, the US is the ONLY developed state that does not have universal healthcare. The reason is simple, the insurance companies have too much political power and they block it.

en.wikipedia.org...


You are partially correct. It seems that there are 3 reasons why the USA does not have Universal Healthcare.
www.alternet.org...

On the positive side from your point of view, if the Senate does not come to agreement on an ObamaCare replacement, it's looking like a Universal Healthcare option, along with Free Market insurance, will replace ObamaCare.



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:34 PM
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June 21, 2017

Anthem Blue Cross announced today that it will be leaving the ObamaCare markets in Wisconsin and Indiana on 12/31/2017.

Indiana will be hit especially hard, because regional insurer, MDwise, also announced its 12/31/2017 departure today.

Indiana Double-Whammy: fox59.com...



posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 03:50 AM
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originally posted by: Advantage
They cant get treatment in a timely manner here.. and we're talking kids and adults... victims of everything from rapes to murders and etc.


I know that medical technology can work marvels these days, but how exactly do you cure a bad case of being murdered?



posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 04:24 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: allsee4eye
To be honest. I don't think the government should get involved in healthcare in the first place. Don't feel well? Take a tylenol. There are plenty of drug stores out there. The insurance companies are too powerful in the US. The US is one of the very few developed states that does not have universal healthcare because of insurance lobby.


It's not just the "insurance lobby". Doctors and Medical facilities would need to accept a significant pay cut if the USA went to Universal Healthcare. No more $1,000 @ day for a semi-private room, or $40,000 for a gallbladder removal.

Their lobby is FAR more powerful and influential than the health insurance companies.


EXACTLY then you throw in in hospitals and big pharma lobbyists, and the billions spent to gain influence in the congress and senate, id like to see how much those healthcare companies spent on lobbying. I believe the US has more unique situations than elsewhere and its why there must be free market option along with healthcare for those that qualify for assistance.

All I know is in my small family business and my customers who are mostly small businesses Obamacare is crippling financially. Many have had to cutback employees and or purchases. And in my family's situation our business supports five families for approaching 40 years, and though business is relatively well we also been hit by our father's 3 year losing battle with cancer, even though he was insured not all treatments or medicines were covered. All it took is for one new treatment that wasn't insured yet and bam we got a huge bill to deal with. Instead of being able to hire more employees to compensate for him being unable to work, we have all had to buckle up and make do by the skin of our teeth. Don't know what we do if we lost even 15% of our current orders.

I looked into getting coverage all while Dad's stuff was going on, I really wanted to get it even though I rarely go to the doctors anyway maybe once every 3-4 years. It was too expensive, I couldn't justify it, can only imagine how much it will be now. All of this on top of concerns for my mom who's 74 and still works with us everyday, but for how long? once again she has insurance but if are hit by uninsured treatments, or long term care, like we were with our grandmothers the last 5-7 years. All this time we have been struggling pay what insurance wouldn't cover the deductibles, in home care and other misc. expenses. Our family has always and will continue to take of our family members for as long as we can, but in our situation Obamacare didn't work, and some drastic reform is needed that i am afraid isn't on the horizon. We are fighting everyday to get business, and though we aren't well off, I know there are many families that are in the same situation or worse.

For the record I'm neither Republican nor Democrat, but believe once somebody is elected I want them to at least try and keep the economy from tanking , and help lower our operating costs for those small businesses.



posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: putnam6

Putnam6, you are not alone. Our insurance brokerage sees lots of families who are getting hosed by insanely high medical costs.

Unfortunately, there is nothing in ObamaCare or the replacement bills, to reduce the price of medical care. They can substantially reduce the cost of health insurance....but not health care. (Everyone seems to mix the two up.)



posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 10:54 PM
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Latest Thread-related update:

The current landscape indicates that 40% of America will have One or less (0) ObamaCare health insurance companies available after 12/31/2017.

Source: avalere.com...

Heaven help Americans who have Centene/Celtic/Ambetter HMO plans as their only choice. It's better than NOTHING, but not by much.



posted on Jun, 26 2017 @ 12:14 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Don't I know it...

but when you see gallbladder surgery in the US at 40,000 and in India it's 4000. Something is messed up.



posted on Jun, 26 2017 @ 12:46 AM
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a reply to: putnam6


You're so right, Putnam6. No need to go to India though. Many Mexico doctors got their training here in the U.S.. "Medical Tourism" as it's called, is getting bigger every year south of the U.S. border.

List of Countries For Cheaper Surgeries: www.huffingtonpost.com...



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