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ACA is Imploding - Places Where NO ObamaCare Plans Will Be Available for 2018.

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posted on May, 21 2017 @ 09:49 PM
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May 21, 2017

United Healthcare started an ObamaCare focused health insurance company in 2015 named HARKEN HEALTH. The company was designed to give free office visits and access to the huge United Health PPO network..the largest in the country.

But ObamaCare's mandates were too much for the giant insurer. In 2015 United HealthCare pulled it's ObamaCare plans from every state. In 2016 its Harken Health subsidiary lost millions of dollars. For 2017, Harken Health raised it's monthly premiums by an average of 60%. For 2018, there will be no more Harken Health.

All existing customers will need to find something else, if they can. Here in Illinois, there are only 3 health insurance carriers for 2017... Blue Cross/Ambetter/Harken Health. Harken is leaving. We'll have to see if Blue Cross and/or Ambetter will return for 2018.

HARKEN's RISE and FALL: www.chicagotribune.com... IGN_2016_10_30&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4d21ab2376-9803ef6a62-280135341




posted on May, 21 2017 @ 09:57 PM
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Imagine -- if all politicians had supported the effort and had worked together to improve the ACA -- making changes where needed.

Oh wait --- organized effort by Right Wing (most of them) Republicans to make Obama and anything he did fail.

I find celebrating the demise of the ACA ridiculous.

No one not wearing Rose Colored glasses is fooled by what really went on.



posted on May, 21 2017 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Mr. ObamaCare had one leg tied to the dock, and the other tied to the boat, with the boat slowly drifting away from the dock. The ACA is being ripped to shreds by attempting to serve two masters.

ObamaCare should have been 100% Government Insurance for those with Existing and Pre-Existing medical conditions right now, and going forward. This COULD have also fulfilled one of President Obama's goals... to significantly reduce the number of people in this country without health insurance, as long as it was OPTIONAL. Forcing people to buy health insurance by threatening them with financial punishment for not buying it, is just plain wrong.



posted on May, 31 2017 @ 02:58 AM
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May 31, 2017

Blue Cross announced that it will stop offering ObamaCare in the Kansas City area on 1.1.2018. All policyholders will have to migrate to MEDICA Insurance company..the only one left standing.

fox4kc.com...

Since Blue Cross lost over $100 million dollars due to huge medical claims from Kansas City area residents, it's likely that Medica will also leave that market, unless it's willing to take on all those expensive customers for 2018.



posted on May, 31 2017 @ 07:15 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

People have short time memories, the federal funding for the Obama care expansion that states opted for, is to expired on 2018,, this will leave the individual states with the burden to take the entire cost of the expansion program on themselves and the state tax payers, many states just would stop the expansion and will not fund it.

That is why it will be no more money for subsidies.

When the ACA was passed the government knew that this could happen, they didn't give two rat arses about it.

So we know who to blame, our entire congress that passed the piece of crap that is ACA now.


edit on 31-5-2017 by marg6043 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 31 2017 @ 07:35 AM
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originally posted by: Annee
Imagine -- if all politicians had supported the effort and had worked together to improve the ACA -- making changes where needed.

Oh wait --- organized effort by Right Wing (most of them) Republicans to make Obama and anything he did fail.

I find celebrating the demise of the ACA ridiculous.

No one not wearing Rose Colored glasses is fooled by what really went on.


Imagine - if Gruber had actually been good at what he did and didn't make it so the stupid voting public had the wool pulled over its eyes in the first place.

Oh wait - organized effort by the Obama admin and it's advisors to pull the wool over the eyes of the stupid voting public got it passed.

Actually everyone was fooled by what already happened.

Just research Gruber and ACA a bit, then look at the other massive failures he made with state healthcare, even being kicked off the board from one.

Enjoy the fruits of horrible economics when calculating the costs by the wondrous administration that was Obama!



posted on May, 31 2017 @ 07:48 AM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

The whole program was calling a success in covering the poor base on the Medicaid expansion that many states opted for, that is why it was more people been able to used states Medicaid that actually the burden of the program falls on the states tax payers.

The promise of subsides for the expansion fell short because the growing deficit of the Federal government.

Then we have to remember that Medicaid is not an entitlement program but an emergency fund.

People have Medicare and Medicaid all Wrong, one is an entitlement the other one is not.

Many private doctors will not take people under Medicaid because the government would not pay in time or pay at all.


Blahous warned that it is not reasonable to count on promised PPACA Medicaid expansion funding given the federal government’s fiscal situation. “In determining whether to expand Medicaid, however, states must also consider the likelihood that federal financing support may ultimately be reduced from current schedules, shifting additional costs to states,” he wrote.

Blahous added, “From a practical perspective, it is quite unlikely that the federal government will make the full amount of Medicaid payments now scheduled under law. The federal government has now run four consecutive years of unsustainable deficits exceeding $1 trillion annually; most influential national policy makers and analysts acknowledge the need for substantial changes to current policies to avoid uncontrolled debt growth in future years.”


obamacare.net...

The problem here is that people forget that those that were responsible for having insurance and keeping it, were hit hard with paying for those that never got insurance or qualified even under Obama on the Medicaid state expansion.

The whole Obama care was to implode anyway, without expansion of the Medicaid.



posted on May, 31 2017 @ 10:05 AM
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Last week I heard that this will leave some areas of Missouri with no (zero) Obamacare providers. Is that still true, or did they manage to throw something together in the last few days?



posted on Jun, 1 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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June 1, 2017

Believe it or not, just ONE PATIENT in IOWA is a significant factor in why there may be no ObamaCare coverage available in that state next year. We've known of an expensive patient in Iowa, but are now getting more details...


""Over the past couple of years there has been a mystery in the Iowa individual insurance market.

According to Blue Cross Blue Shield insurer Wellmark, there is a patient in the state's Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) exchanges who required $1 million a month in care.

This staggering $12 million in care each year was distorting the insurer's exchange business and forcing it to raise premiums across the exchange rapidly.

While the identity of the patient has not been revealed — rightfully so — a Wellmark executive did tell a Rotary club meeting that the person was a teenage boy with hemophilia, a genetic disorder that prevents blood from clotting, according to the Des Moines Register.""

Source: www.businessinsider.com...



posted on Jun, 1 2017 @ 07:39 PM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
Last week I heard that this will leave some areas of Missouri with no (zero) Obamacare providers. Is that still true, or did they manage to throw something together in the last few days?


Can't just "throw something together" when you're looking at losing millions of dollars, Andy. Here's an update, related to Missouri.

""Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas City announced May 24 it will no longer offer or renew insurance plans on the city’s Obamacare exchange next year in Kansas or Missouri.

The fallout is likely to affect some 67,000 Blue Cross customers in 30 counties in Kansas City, according to a statement from Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas City. Some 25 counties in western Missouri could be left without a single insurance provider on the Obamacare exchanges unless another provider steps in to fill the place of Blue Cross Blue Shield.""

List of All Companies Leaving ObamaCare for 2018: (As of: 5.20.17) dailycaller.com...



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 12:07 AM
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Here's a current summary of companies leaving ObamaCare at the end of this year...and WHY.
www.investors.com...

The Senate had better work faster at either FIXING or REPLACING ObamaCare, because many of the few remaining ObamaCare health insurance companies will be pulling out before June 20th. That's the deadline for them to notify the Trump Administration (Health and Human Services) where in the country they WILL, or WILL NOT, be participating.



posted on Jun, 3 2017 @ 12:18 AM
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a reply to: carewemust


Add to the list BLUE CROSS of Nebraska. Just announced that they will be leaving ObamaCare on 12.31.2017. The 100,000 customers will need to choose MEDICA or go without medical insurance next year.

Story: www.washingtonexaminer.com...

BTW.. MEDICA says it's "leaning towards" exiting. This would leave the entire state of Nebraska with ZERO private health insurance plans for purchase.



posted on Jun, 4 2017 @ 12:33 AM
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June 3, 2017

MEDICA insurance company is now the only company that MAY offer Individual/Family health insurance plans in the entire states of IOWA and NEBRASKA after this year ends.

Normally a monopoly would be wonderful for a business, but not when it guarantees that you'll lose money...


""A Minnesota health plan finds itself as potentially the sole survivor in insurance markets in Iowa and Nebraska — a precarious position that highlights the uncertain fate of the federal health law.

Following exits by competitors, Minnetonka-based Medica is the only insurer now selling statewide coverage to individuals in Iowa and Nebraska that might possibly return in 2018 to government-run exchanges.

Having a monopoly might be enviable in some businesses, but not when it comes to selling individual market coverage under the Affordable Care Act (ACA). Dwindling competition further complicates the decision facing Medica and other health plans in coming weeks about whether to stick with business on the ACA exchanges.

"Insurers don't want to be the last one in the market," said Cynthia Cox, an associate director for the California-based Kaiser Family Foundation. "It's almost like a game of hot potato — they're trying to avoid being the only health plan for high-cost enrollees."""

Full Article: www.startribune.com...



posted on Jun, 4 2017 @ 10:18 AM
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this is beyond me understanding being machinaly inclined is what i understand .
But ill say this i am 51 and ( once or twice tried getting health insurance ( made my morage look cheep )
so out of that 51 years had health insurance 2 years .
The weird thing was I was approved ( wiffe did it medacade ) 3 weeks later had a really bad accedent and over
the next 9 months lost a eye . Then just as that was healing got a palap ( canser in the colon ) tehn in the middel of that crushed a finger ( middel finger right hand ( cant shoota bird at any one now lol .
finly after that 2 years right beofr tehy cancled my covarage my health was well ok alest lol .
No eye no finger and missinga pice of but . lol but Not sick anyway .
Poepl are nuts YOU are nuts insurance taht cost as much as your morage ( and now even higher )
And like no big deal man makes me wonder jsut what it will take for you to see this Goverment has one and only one goal strip you of your last bit of wealth .
really though I welcome it then you wont be able to look down on me you WILL BE ME .



posted on Jun, 4 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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you know the funniest part once the Governments are done and the 1% have every last dime .
It will be worthless and they will become us .
Spain tried it once in a every ones rich way a few years later all they had was gold and you cant eat gold .
the super rich all they have is gold and they cant eat gold .We dont need them they need us with out us there gold is worthless .



posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: midnightstar

Well, you and millions of other Americans will be in BIG TROUBLE health insurance wise next year, if what's being rumored is true.

The SENATE is supposedly going to vote on an ObamaCare Repeal-Replace bill THIS MONTH, knowing that it will FAIL to win approval. WHY? So they can move on to TAX REFORM.

SOURCE: www.politico.com...

Hopefully this is just the Left-leaning POLITICO publication attempting to sew the usual dissent.



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 12:29 PM
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Tuesday, June 6, 2017

ANTHEM Blue Cross is leaving Obamacare in OHIO.

""Anthem announced Tuesday that it will not participate in Affordable Care Act individual health insurance exchanges in Ohio for the 2018 plan year, potentially leaving 20 counties in the state without any Obamacare marketplace plans.""

Full Story: www.businessinsider.com...



posted on Jun, 6 2017 @ 04:41 PM
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You can tell by the limited input to ObamaCare threads that only 4% of the entire country is affected, LOL.



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 09:47 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
You can tell by the limited input to ObamaCare threads that only 4% of the entire country is affected, LOL.


That's OK, because 90% of ATS members rarely post, and there are thousands of ATS visitors. For the few who are watching this thread, and for yours truly, I'll keep it updated until ObamaCare is repealed. As one of our clients said today, "I pray daily that they get it repealed before 2018."

Here's the latest. 35 counties in the USA with ZERO health insurance options for 2018, and 1,388 counties with just one.

MAP: www.nytimes.com...



posted on Jun, 12 2017 @ 10:13 PM
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To be honest. I don't think the government should get involved in healthcare in the first place. Don't feel well? Take a tylenol. There are plenty of drug stores out there. The insurance companies are too powerful in the US. The US is one of the very few developed states that does not have universal healthcare because of insurance lobby.




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