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Originally posted by soficrow
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...and the important question is not how much, but "Where is it going?"
International private security firms, mercenaries and defense contractors get most of the money. Our soldiers are left without armor or air cover, and their families live on food stamps. Contractors manipulate public opinion by saying soldiers need support, then redirect the cash to private contracts.
Originally posted by devilwasp
Wouldnt say so, over here a paramedic makes more than a combat medic until he or she reaches corporal.
Originally posted by Starwars51
Not here. In most places in teh US Paramedics make little more than minimum wage. Also, most paramedics don't get all of their education payed for.
For some highly career fields you can make more in the private sector - but the idea that people are on food stamps because the military won't support them is pure BS.
Originally posted by devilwasp
Wow, you guys realy dont respect the people that save your lives....and i thought these heartless SOB's here that critise the NHS were bad...
Well, do privates wifes live on the base?
NO they live at home, what they do at home isnt really the army's buisness.
Originally posted by Starwars51Not here. In most places in teh US Paramedics make little more than minimum wage. Also, most paramedics don't get all of their education payed for.
Originally posted by devilwasp
Yeah, but why the hell dont you guys stop going out and getting into the hotspots!
Well it should be first to look after thier citizens not to make them the most heavily armed!
Yeah, but the cost of it on the US tax payer is crazy, i mean why do you need super fighters 20 years in advance of the nearest competitor?
And why does the US need to be a super power?
Against WHAT enemies is what we are all getting at...
The chinese present no danger if left alone, dealing with terrorists does not require the use of a carrier battle group!
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Because between our own national security, the UN, and always being the nation that helps every other country that has some problem (see tsunami) we need to be able to quickly be able to respond while having the ability to still protect our nation from other threats.
Note - without all those ships, how many more people would have died? Those carriers are the ones giving them clean water, food, and medical suplies.
The most heavily armed military is the best protection for it's citizens
As it has been shown, only a small part of our tax dollars % wise go towards the military. We spend so uch simply because our economy is larger then most continents economies combined.
The super fighters (I assume you are reffering to the F/A-22 Raptor) were designed during the cold war, we had already poured BILLIONS into it, and as it happens, our current air superiority fighter - the F-15 - is a 30 some odd year old design. It is obsolete in todays world. Russia has better performing airraft, and so do you (Eurofighter), so we just got our ersion of what everyone else has gotten, only ours is a lot better and a lot more expensive. Honestly, you sound like a kid on a playground crying 'no fair' because a bigger stronger kid beat you.
Well, I prefer the term 'hyper power' because super power tends to imply that their is another power equal to your own such as in the cold war. In any case the US doesn't need to be a superpower, but the fact is we are inheritly a super power because of our enonomy. We dominate world politics because of it and also dominate with our military because of it.
This sounds familiar.....Kind of like wetern Europe during the 1930's....
Hmmm, lets see. How many MILLION men are in the North Korean army? South Korea is our ally, and we will defend her ecause of it, just like we would have protected western Europe is Russia had invaded, just like we tried to protect south Vietnam, just like we saved Kuwait, Etc Etc
And believe it or not, China DOES pose a threat if the US did not have such a military. They would try to invade every country they could.
Russia, while less of a threat then before, still has a military capable of posing a threat
The US has the doctrine of being able to engage in two wars in two different theaters. That is an ability we see as crucial to national security.
And again, lets not forget if there were EVER some major action tht the UN would need to take it would be the US muscle that would do it.
The bottom line is we can easily afford to pay the money to have such a dominate military, so why wouldn't we? Rich people don't NEED that Bently - they could just get a nice Honda - but then what is the point of all tht money? If we spend it on the military we help our economy while also making the US a stronger nation.
Originally posted by Starwars51
Perhaps you should avoid commenting on things that you have no knowledge of.
Originally posted by Starwars51
Originally posted by devilwasp
Wouldnt say so, over here a paramedic makes more than a combat medic until he or she reaches corporal.
Not here. In most places in teh US Paramedics make little more than minimum wage. Also, most paramedics don't get all of their education payed for.
[edit on 6-2-2005 by Starwars51]
hondaboy
correct me if im wrong, but i read somewhere that the black budget was A LOT higher than 30 billion, and like only 1/3 or 2/3's when to the actual projects, and the rest went to keeping it secret.
if i remeber correctly it was around like 1 trillion, but thats seems high.
ill try and find where i read that.
Originally posted by deadpresidentz
I don't know where you guys get your information but, on average, EMT's make between $10 and $20 an hour. I have a friend in the field.