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A man disappeared in Brazil and left behind 14 books full of encrypted hand-written text

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posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 05:21 PM
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Drudge report running with this now.

Gotta say, very fascinating. If its turned into some lucrative book deal, im out.




posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 05:26 PM
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News:

They found the man who made the statue.

Link PT news

Jorge Rivasplata, 83 yo.

the sculpture was delivered on mar 16 and finished on the room. The cost of the sculpture is 20000R$, but he charged 7000 R$, gave a discount because he believed in his ideas.

Jorge believed Bruno was the reincarnation of Giordano.

"I do not know why, but I've known him a long time, and I believe that Giordano Bruno has been reincarnated in him, I can not say any more, the only thing I can say is that he has finished the books he [Giordano] left unfinished. Tell your father and mother not to worry, he is fine and comes to present to the world this beautiful, fantastic project " - google tradutor.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: Peserc
News:

They found the man who made the statue.

Link PT news

Jorge Rivasplata, 83 yo.

the sculpture was delivered on mar 16 and finished on the room. The cost of the sculpture is 20000R$, but he charged 7000 R$, gave a discount because he believed in his ideas.

Jorge believed Bruno was the reincarnation of Giordano.

"I do not know why, but I've known him a long time, and I believe that Giordano Bruno has been reincarnated in him, I can not say any more, the only thing I can say is that he has finished the books he [Giordano] left unfinished. Tell your father and mother not to worry, he is fine and comes to present to the world this beautiful, fantastic project " - google tradutor.



Well for a place most Brazilians joke doesn't exist, certainly has a lot of talented people residing within.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 05:31 PM
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originally posted by: Peserc
a reply to: Ghost147

My recreation so far from video footage






Thank you for a better model of the circle. Ok so after looking through a few books I can conclude that the symbol on the ground and the statue placed within it was some kind of attempt to capture Baruel (this is the master of all arts, and teacher of man) the circle itself is a strange over protective summoning symbol.

Though the only point of reference to this style of symbol comes from a modern reprint of a 1524 Book of Johannes Faustus (most copies where ordered destroyed by the NAZI and oddly by the Catholic Church during the 1930's. I have a reprint that was made for me off of an Original surviving manuscript) Faustus describes the encounter with Baruel as being maddening, as if your life has been filled with knowledge and you must write what you know in order to not die.

Oddly there is a small note that was scribed by John Heydon in his 1662 discourse "The Harmony of the world, Angles, Stars, Planets, Earth" This isn't the whole title, but people often wrote paragraphs as titles back then it seems. Anyways Heydon warned against summoning Baruel since it had driven man to madness of writing.

The only other point to this was a 1920's note book I got my hands on back in the day, written by a groupie of Crowley that described a fellow conjuror that had gone mad after trying to summon a spirit of knowledge. This person had apparently written all these pages of information and wrote on walls, floors, celling, his skin, and died since he refused to eat until he had written all that he knew. Then in the note book it stated that a few days after seeing the fellow conjuror he had died from mal-nourishment while writing in some unknown language.

It would be very interesting if that's what happened here, as it would once again leave the door open to a bigger reality. I'm not going to hold my breath though that this is what's happened here, but I'm not sure.
edit on 5-4-2017 by Guyfriday because: Cleaned up post a little



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 05:38 PM
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a reply to: Peserc



Rivasplata says the statue was filled with foam, wood, gravel and cement to make it heavier and thus unable to be moved. The artifact was not "dropped" on the floor to prevent the symbols from being damaged. "It's not stuck, but it's really heavy so it's not taken out of the way," he explains.


Ha...well, that answers one of my questions...



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 05:43 PM
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a reply to: Guyfriday

can you post some pictures of the circles that you mentioned?

I couldnt find another one like that, except the one from the anime full metal alchemist, called human transmutation circle.

If jorge, the sculptor, thought that bruno was the reincarnation of Giordano, that makes me think that bruno thought that too. maybe he was trying to bring giordano back to life? But why use a anime based circle? Whatever work works?



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: Peserc
So this man knows what he was working on but won't tell?

Urg, how infuriating! I find it strange that he tells the parents not to worry that "he is find and comes to present to the world this beautiful, fantastic project". What? That makes no sense, we don't even know what we are looking at.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: Peserc

Try searching "Key of Solomon Pentacles" a bunch of these symbols comes up, but like I said this one looks very protective. I tried to search for imagery similar to the symbol you created, and yup "Full Metal Alchemist" pops up. I almost wonder if the guy behind this tried using a fake summoning symbol to capture Baruel in the statue, and failed due to using a fake symbol. This may have caused him to leave his house in self inflected failure and disgrace, but that's just a thought. Shoot the guy may have had the whole thing work and went mad like the others I listed. We're not going to know until the person behind this shows up.


Hiromu Arakawa (the creator of "Full metal Alchemist" did do research into alchemy before writing out the storyline. I wonder if she had lifted the symbol used directly from a source, or if it was a newly created design by her.

Either way after looking into the symbol itself, and the behavior of the person behind this, I have to wonder if they really did succeed in conjuring up something?



I'm not set up here to post pictures, so sorry about that.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: Peserc
So this man knows what he was working on but won't tell?

Urg, how infuriating! I find it strange that he tells the parents not to worry that "he is find and comes to present to the world this beautiful, fantastic project". What? That makes no sense, we don't even know what we are looking at.



"beautiful, fantastic project" can also mean horrid and terrifying. Peace on Earth for example can mean death to all living things.

It's possible that if Jorge believed that the person behind this was on to something, that something could be seen as demonic to others. Look at the concept of "Greys". Are they aliens, demons, angles, what? If this guy did summon something and tried to contain it in the statue that might be enough to get him killed in some parts of the world. Even just attempting it is a form of heresy and punishable by death.

Just some thoughts on this.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 06:20 PM
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his sister was there but he told her not to disturb him so she left him alone


originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: research100

Was there anyone with him in the house? Where did he sleep? Did they know the furniture was missing? Where did he put it?

It is a small town, if he had just put it on the side of the road, someone would mentioned it and it would be talked about. I know. I live in a small town. If I have extra empty bottles in my recycle bin, I get asked if I had folks over if I had a party.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: Peserc

holy s#it its is!



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to: Martin75

Apparently yes. Idk man, i dont buy this "nobody saw anything" thing. Thats a 6'8"statue, and from what i understand, jorge filled the statue with wood and cement in the room.

in the first video, people are talking about how the hell the statue got there, and they talk about the value of the sculpture "its worth 20.000 R$". How could they know that? Maybe they talked to jorge before the video record, but maybe they knew about it.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: Peserc

well that showns we the suspicions we already had about his beliefs



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: Peserc

Nice find...In the same set of images, to the right, is a symbol i find eerily reminiscent of the schwarz sonne



The Black Sun. Also thought to be the real name behind the "SS"; the annenerbe used it especially.



This topic will hopefully turn out to be interesting (and not a hoax).



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 07:06 PM
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This is interesting, but I have to say I live in LA and see homeless people writing things in strange codes on papers, in the margins of books, etc, all the time. It used to interest me greatly, but now it just makes me feel sad for them.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: humanoidlord

now this is getting interesting...



remember "badselfeater"? on reddit there was some chatter about it being related

to cicada
edit on 4/5/2017 by drphilxr because: change



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 07:15 PM
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Where are books II through IV? Looks like they took the good stuff and left the intro



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: Peserc

holy s#it its is!


Amazing catch, Peserc.




posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 07:44 PM
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Guys, look at this photo, on the right.

Bruno and Jorge. Pay attention to the floor and the door. Looks like the same type from brunos room (but could be from another room of the house). Theres also some kind of tool or piece of cement in the middle, that makes me think that the picture was taken in the moment in which they were delivering the statue (because jorge filled the sculpture with cement and wood, etc). There are no writing on the floor or the wall by that time (mar16), and theres a carpet too (again, the picture could be taken in another room). But who took the picture? Some friend?



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 08:03 PM
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I am lucky enough to speak Portuguese, I am currently going through everything coming out of Brasil regarding this story. Will keep yall up to date if i find something.

Great thread, been a while since we've had a real ats thread.




Also the codes have been partially decrypted and translation seem to have begun, im reading the first few pages that have been translated



edit on 82017Wednesdaypm430Wed, 05 Apr 2017 20:03:57 -0500America/Chicagov03 by Golantrevize because: (no reason given)



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