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A man disappeared in Brazil and left behind 14 books full of encrypted hand-written text

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posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: MetalChickAmy

I think he thought it was a way to provide for his family, and the time it takes to decipher it not only allows interest and intrigue to grow but allows him more time to escape those shackles and bonds...


The issue with this theory is that his family is well off. How well off we're not sure, but well enough for him to reasonably ask for thousands of dollars and actually receive it based off of nothing.

Father a club owner, mother a psychologist. He's not escaping the bonds of poverty at all.

From what I've gathered so far, it could simply be a matter of obsession with a particular historical figure that he just so happens to look like, and -at the moment at least- a bit of an arrogant perspective in regards to supplying the human race with knowledge only he possesses, which at the moment isn't anything spectacular, from what we've translated.

Of course, the analysis so far is only based off of a few pages of translated text and basic psychology.

To get the full picture we'd need further translation




posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: Ghost147

And? He had to borrow money...

My family is "well off" but they don't care if their children live in poverty... they only help if you supplicate and kiss their asses allow them to control you force their will on you anything and everything but be oneself.

I have been under such ignorant control my entire life, treated as a slave their beast of burden, unwanted, unhelped... all of their burdens heaped on having to become the adult because they never arose being anything but selfish children.

So instead of supplication? I had to teach myself suffer all sorts of abuse; to simply always be who I already was, to struggle and fight to be who I was instead of wear their faces and actions as mine.

I will not be a mold for such things... I will not be burdened by such things they chose to carry them in their choice in greed and hate in the selfish delusion in ignorance.

I used to try to control all one not myself at one time as well; then I stopped and sought to control only myself everything there was inside that could be found not myself, booted it out then nothing was left not even a me... just a form with an awareness of being moment to moment.

But hey they can't help themselves just as I couldn't... being their "child"? Nothing I could ever teach them, just someone to be a servant to their foolishness.

Raising oneself always being the black sheep? The prodigal son but never returning to beg like a dog? Choosing poverty, falling and struggling just to be myself, keep myself? They already think they are right... in such a manner how could anyone ever think themselves wrong?

They break every single commandment they claim to hold; and then supplicate to some energy as they are weak and helpless children... then continue the same old habits in that craving and desire.

Craving and desiring me I am not anyone's property but mine. If I open the door for someone it is a choice, if I open my heart to someone that is a choice... but there is no mind except in empty appearances and concepts of grasping.

So this fellow if his family is the same way; as mine in their greed and ignorance will cheat rob and steal down to the last inch just to control materially wealthy but spiritually poor. The very mirror of what they need but cannot comprehend.

But meh it is what it is; when people lose themselves under so much garbage and rubble not them.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: Ghost147

And? He had to borrow money...

My family is "well off" but they don't care if their children live in poverty... they only help if you supplicate and kiss their asses allow them to control you force their will on you anything and everything but be oneself.


He's 24 and lives at home. He's not living in poverty.


originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: Ghost147

So instead of supplication? I had to teach myself suffer all sorts of abuse; to simply always be who I already was, to struggle and fight to be who I was instead of wear their faces and actions as mine.

I will not be a mold for such things... I will not be burdened by such things they chose to carry them in their choice in greed and hate in the selfish delusion in ignorance.

I used to try to control all one not myself at one time as well; then I stopped and sought to control only myself everything there was inside that could be found not myself, booted it out then nothing was left not even a me... just a form with an awareness of being moment to moment.

But hey they can't help themselves just as I couldn't... being their "child"? Nothing I could ever teach them, just someone to be a servant to their foolishness.

Raising oneself always being the black sheep? The prodigal son but never returning to beg like a dog? Choosing poverty, falling and struggling just to be myself, keep myself? They already think they are right... in such a manner how could anyone ever think themselves wrong?

They break every single commandment they claim to hold; and then supplicate to some energy as they are weak and helpless children... then continue the same old habits in that craving and desire.

Craving and desiring me I am not anyone's property but mine. If I open the door for someone it is a choice, if I open my heart to someone that is a choice... but there is no mind except in empty appearances and concepts of grasping.

So this fellow if his family is the same way; as mine in their greed and ignorance will cheat rob and steal down to the last inch just to control materially wealthy but spiritually poor. The very mirror of what they need but cannot comprehend.

But meh it is what it is; when people lose themselves under so much garbage and rubble not them.


How does this relate to the missing 24 year old at all?

His family clearly isn't struggling. He ask for money not because he was starving to death but because he wanted to work on a project of which he refused to disclose to anyone he asked money from, of course his parents aren't going to give him $7,000 or more. Why would they?

Sorry, but your tangent doesn't apply to this man



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

we are all but a product of the conditioning within our environments, some us become stronger others don't! and the cycle continues, you could say the bigger the stressor the stronger the effect.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 12:30 PM
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Has any more of the text on the walls been translated?

It seems by now there would be more information.

Was the statue made of tin or other elements that he thought he could change into gold, silver, etc.?



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 02:11 PM
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Didn't a priest have a similar story?
If I remember correct, the priest had some kind of connection to a tribe of people that had access to artifacts of an advanced technology. Some of these artifacts were given to the priest as gifts, but upon his death, the storage shed was broken into and all the artifacts disappeared.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: Ghost147

So living at home at 24 is well off? If by choice sure if not? Just a prison.

The example given is how such a thing can be a prison.. one formed of expectations not one's own, that limit instead of advance.

It was a hypothetical based on experience not saying that is or was what occurred in his situation, but for those unaware of such things occurring as a reality... then people unaware of such would not even be aware such even occurs or is a possibility of occurring as a reality.

But such a thing does and can go on... that was the point being made.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: Davg80

A product to be bought and sold like some slave to a system? Sure, well aware of such a thing... if that is with consent? Meh perspective.

One person's freedom can be another's bondage.

The example was my family wants me ten thousand ways other than who I am... that isn't love and acceptance that's control. Lot's of people go through that struggle to be just who they are; that shouldn't be a struggle.

But indeed that struggle does build a ton of strength and character... like someone weighing 15 lbs lifting a 10lb(gallon) of milk to make themselves something to eat because no one else will feed them, getting beaten and yelled at for spilling some and trying to clean it up in fear without anyone knowing some was spilled to avoid getting beaten and yelled at. Trying to change one's own diaper because it is so overloaded and packed with waste because no one else will... that's the kind of trash I grew up in.

Stronger for it? It just is what it is and one just does the best they can with whatever it is; with or without help. Of course when one realizes not everyone grew up or experienced the same sort of business? Yeah you can get really pissed off... but who the hell was around to help in those days? No one. Even threatened if anyone was told.

Just a bad situation all around like being raised by animals. Those wanting to regress back to those times in society? Not something I think is a good idea having lived through such conditions. Especially knowing others out there somewhere... going through that right now as a child... when they don't have to.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 05:40 PM
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originally posted by: Ghost147
From what I've gathered so far, it could simply be a matter of obsession with a particular historical figure that he just so happens to look like, and -at the moment at least- a bit of an arrogant perspective in regards to supplying the human race with knowledge only he possesses, which at the moment isn't anything spectacular, from what we've translated.



***WARNING GETTING BACK ON TOPIC***



If this is an obsession with a historical figure that he resembles, then it seems like he became very obsessed. Though in this line of thinking, I'm left wondering if he learned something from this exercise, or was it all for naught?

Seems excessive for just a simple obsession though. To much precession in the way the writing was laid out and diagramed. I'm wondering if he tried/did to summon something, transmute something, or something along those lines. I'm not going to say he succeeded in doing any of this (though it would be scary cool if he did), I am thinking that that was his intention. As I said before we're not going to know until he shows up and explains what's going on. The speculation of these events is really great, and hopefully forces us to re-examine the world around us a little bit different.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 06:07 PM
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a reply to: Ghost147

Unknown simbols is the astrological simbols,the second is the symbol of Venus for that one I'm sure, first looks like a symbol conjunction but not standing in the right position the third also resembles the symbol of Neptune also not in a good position. Maybe I'm wrong but it is worth checking with someone who understands better than me
edit on 7-4-2017 by Lora73 because: I forgot image :-)



posted on Apr, 8 2017 @ 07:28 AM
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a reply to: Lora73
X is the archetypal "crossing point" for obvious reasons. Isnt the second one (female symbol) copper?



posted on Apr, 8 2017 @ 11:08 PM
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I've been thinking about this and just don't see how he used all the money on the writings, books, and statue. My guess is nothing nefarious happened to him. I think he took off to continue his research or follow in the footsteps of Giordano and maybe even retrace Giordano's travels across Europe.



posted on Apr, 9 2017 @ 01:26 AM
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This image is a still taken from one of the videos of the room. I'm wondering if anyone has been able to either decipher the cryptic text above and below the symbol, or knows anything about the symbol itself. I understand that the symbol is just a labyrinth of some sort, but when connected with the rest of the symbolism in the room along with other things, It means something more to me. When I was around 12 years old (I'm now 28), I lived in a small rural town outside of Cincinnati, Ohio. I can't recall the time of the year, but I had stepped out onto my back patio around 10pm and looked up into the sky and saw a very massive green disk shaped object facing me above the tree lines around 150-200 yards away. The object did not appear to be distant, and comparable to the size of a basketball if held straight out in front of you. The disk was a sea foam green color with a darker green labyrinth shape inside. The material seemed plasma like. It also appeared to be pulsating and sort of static-y. I stared at the object in shock and amazement for what seemed like a good 3 minutes as it sat above the tree line. I slowly backed inside to get my parents to come look. Unfortunately, no one was interested and by the time i returned, the object was gone, so I have no clue to whether it vanished, shot up into the air, landed, etc. I've never been able to find any information on this, but if anyone knows something, please let me know! I was shocked to see the picture on the wall in Borges' room. It could very well have no significance, but the fact that he was fascinated by ufo's and extraterrestrials does spark a bit in me. While discussing the topic with a friend back in January, I quickly painted this image in ps, depicting for the most part what I saw that night. This is the picture.


Side by side

edit on 9-4-2017 by Trentt1130 because: Adding picture



posted on Apr, 9 2017 @ 02:49 AM
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a reply to: Trentt1130

Thanks for posting this pic, I'll see what I can dig up in the morning.



posted on Apr, 9 2017 @ 06:24 AM
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a reply to: Trentt1130

I should have time tonight to update the "unknown symbols" list and adjust the perspective of the image you posted so we can more easily read the text.

I don't believe I can get it clear enough to read the text above and below the labarynth, however. But the text closer to the camera will be easy



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: Trentt1130

Interesting what you wrote about seeing a similar type pattern in the sighting you had.

So I googled some things around this and a few results shown.


1. The saucer’s perimeter was lit up with two concentric circle rings of light that were the source of the bright fluorescent green light. The looked identical to a giant ring of neon light tubing attached to the outer rim of the bottom side of the space ship. A second ring was inside of the first ring with a small space between the two 2. Both rings had some sort of thin, dark separation strap that broke them into 5 segments each. (See attached photo shop picture of UFO reconstruction).
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A few other results shown for this, just wondered if this helped you. Green UFO in the night sky seems to have occurred a few times and oddly, the person who recreated the above image put a somewhat labyrinth type pattern inside the circle.




posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 08:54 PM
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Yes. I would agree. I have lucid dreamed before many times. You can control these dreams like your own stage play w both your mind and the universe as costars. If you want to drive around in a car or whatever physical earthly realm you can do these things.

But things get way deeper and cooler when you attempt to dream of things like philosophy and science and...even spirituality. Surprisingly these things are not usually your normal conscious beliefs...but rather you are more like guided in the right direction by something...the universe...god...aliens...the creator of all of it...i dont know exactly.

I have Had ethereal visions. Seen strange things and permutations/designs not that dissimilar from some seen on this guys walls. Never a lot of writings...not for me anyways. And keep in mind ive never had anything anywhere close to what that guy must have seen.

Everything was so real. Dreams that literally the EXPERIENCE lasts for what your brain perceives as hours all the # you can do in them. Be on a 6 hour adventure w the universe. Wake up its been like 40 mins. Super crazy stuff. Like jodi foster in the machine from contact would be a great anology. When i first seen this that is what i thought immediately was that he had tapped into a higher science or consciousness where you are of in and with the universe.

The only way i can describe this higher knowledge or vision or realm is one of three things. Tapping INTO the fabric of the universe...the timeless existence of everything from souls to stars
You dont understand it...BUT you are at peace with and not afraid. Or rather than the universe itself...an existence slightly less equal and coexistent to it like a fish to a river. At peace navigating it. And slightly lesser than perhaps that option. Would be a submissive watcher or inhabitant...perhaps w other beings like aliens.

I have never seen an alien in my lucid dreams... But it's possible they are real and could be keepers or givers of the...what i see...as this realm or the technology to achieve its enlightenment or existence/admission to it. I also believe that its this information/understanding or whatever this guy got access to may...in fact...be inside all of us...somewhere in the depths of the mind. Waiting to be unlocked either spiritually,chemically, mentally or a combination of all three.

Or as suggested channeled directly to your mind by the fabric of the universe itself once you either access it somehow or thru a deeper different state of consciousness etc etc.

Now as for me im a perfectly healthy...that i know of besides smoker of cigs...guy in his 30s. No mental health anythings. However when you wake up in the middle of a lucid dream you are kinda of trapped and tranced for a min sort of like what i guess would be like a mild delirium. Which goes away after a few seconds or so and you come back to reality just like a normal sleepy dude who just woke up from a super super deep sleep for like 10 hours.

Buts its really only been like an hour or so lol. And your realize you are still tired as #. Because while your body sleep your dreaming inside your head essentially and its almost like you are exploring using that...other 90 percent of your brain...ya know that we normally dont use supposedly. But i will say i always feel like i just had to deep soul level connection to what i will call the great architect of the shibang. Its very easy to just go back to sleep (non lucid mind you) so peaceful and at one with everything. Like sleeping on a pillow in the hand of God.

So perhaps if this dude was normal...and just somehow stumbled onto ALL of this eternal knowledge thru his work and project i can imagine he could or would appear pretty crazy at the levels of # must have tapped into. Probably why he locked the door. The mother "had we opened that door you know what we would have done"...i.e. The connection to the mental health place...shes a psych...she would have assumed for sure he was nuts.

And obv if he was supposed to "know" what would happen its happened befoe. Probably some harcore channel action somehow....see thats where i think the alchemy and that comes in. I dont think he was dreaming or what ever. I think he created his own on demand access thru drugs or transmutation whatever whatever. I know atropine poisoning...or belladonna back in the day was used by these alchemists the induce lucid delirious states. Its also a good way to die so dont do it lmao.

Sorry for the incredibly long post but yes i have seen some of these symbols and what not while lucid dreaming and just assumed the universe was trying to tell me or show me something. Some kind of knowledge or tech. Hopefully this helps shed some light on what this guy was into at least i think anyways. Cause i heard some people mention channeling and what not. Throw my vote in that hat.

I came here from fb after seeing...to sign up and throw my two cents in to help solve this mysterious masterpiece. I dont believe he was crazy...yet. One fact i believe the one little symbol for the psych place at foot of the statue....that was a direct shot at his mother. As to say, see...i told you i wasnt crazy...look what i have created. Or he made the whole thing up for art like a dick lmfao.

Peace out im sure i will be back to follow along.



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 09:18 PM
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If you've seen these symbols for your self, then it might be helpful to provide some context to them.


As for the maze all I can find is a pictorial map of Agartha (the continent that Shambala and Shang ra la resides. At least according a theoretician of Theosophy)

There is a rudimentary labyrinth drawing that looks similar to this maze from the 16th century. It's is credited to Leonardo da Vinci and was supposedly drawn during his encounter in the caves near the Arno Valley. Though this may not be true since I have no way to verify this.
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DOH! I just realized that the maze is also a generic circler maze design. So much for looking too deep into this issue. Though since we don't know the context that the maze is drawn in either points could be true. It could be a map of the Theosophic Agartha, it could be the mapping of the caves from Leonardo da Vinci, it could be a cypher key for a hidden code in the guys writings, or it could just be a generic representation of a circler maze.

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posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 10:50 PM
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Well just that i had seen odd symbols. I don't know what they mean tho. Im not much of an alchemy occult guy. I can only speak for myself and that its weird for someone like me...an alchemist idiot if yoi will to have dreams in my sleep that when i bring myself to dream of philosophy and spirituality etc...i usually end up w things more of a astroprojectioning universe stars and moon and sometimes odd symbol type of experience rather than one of any discernable religious theme etc etc. But i did try to express that while I do not necessarily "understand" it...my soul or being if you will seemed perfectly at peace w being there and seeing these things...thus the peaceful connection to said realm. So to me i do think there is probably some kind of universal connection with our "soul" if you will to the fabric of everything else and perhaps God or the grand architect. And if my deepest of deepest subconscious mind conjures up these things then perhaps that philosophy of universal eternity and oneness and the "magic" if you will of alchemy may indeed be realizeable and reachable with intent and or own transformation rather than just die and see what happens.

Hell i dont know if the guy had bob the alien swoop down and show him all that...or it came from his mind...or channeled from said universal spirit of it all. But. The guy did not seem crazy to me. Just determined to express something important to him anyways that was astrological and philosophical and even somewhat occult into this project. Im learning more about this symbolism and alchemy from you guys. Which you guys are showing me alot if you will on the interpretation of those if you will. I will be better armed to acknowledge what i see now w those.

What grabs me really is these translations of talk about the soul and the hero soul and the body etc etc. Its not hard for me to ponder these things based upon my own experiences that some of these odd sayings seem almost tangible or at least understandable to my experiences with the "soul" and universe etc etc. Doesnt seem like jibberish or conjuring. Seems more like a bible verse in the church of the universe if you will. Im really going to have to go back and read those again. Perhaps i would be better suited to help determine how these sayings may indeed have truth in the realm of the universe and their meanings in laymans terms to better understand his philosophy rather than his alchemy. Someone had said oh a kid on pot could write those...mmm no i dont think so really...Especially those early ones from his idols original works. Those actually seemed tangible in meaning to me.


One other thing...that big symbol of the lines and circles. Ive been pondering that since i seen it. Why? It seems very significant. Marked 1. Very large. Its very imporant. Notice how they are connected but slight different. Seem to be a machination of something. But WHAT i do not know. Almost like a blueprint. The arches behind the circles are sliightly different. Some are inverted. Some holes habe two projections...some have one...it screams a working machine or ar least diagram of something...physical...physiological...transformative... Dont know but if this has any truth to the betterment of man...that is super important. Its saying start here...figure me out...then progress. Thats what it says to me anyways.
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posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 11:59 PM
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originally posted by: Peserc
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

That is a classic case from brazil. I did a lot of research about it some months ago, including in old newspapper and news. I was thinking of writing a topic about it.

About the post:


In this photo, over the text, is the cicada 3301 logo??



Yes.




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