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originally posted by: xuenchen
No proof anywhere that Page was even an advisor to Trump.
No link to the court papers.
No proof Page confirmed anything to BuzzFeed.
Gotta Love It.
TRUMP: Well, I hadn’t thought of doing it, but if you want I can give you some of the names… Walid Phares, who you probably know, PhD, adviser to the House of Representatives caucus, and counter-terrorism expert; Carter Page, PhD; George Papadopoulos, he’s an energy and oil consultant, excellent guy; the Honorable Joe Schmitz, [former] inspector general at the Department of Defense; [retired] Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg; and I have quite a few more. But that’s a group of some of the people that we are dealing with. We have many other people in different aspects of what we do, but that’s a representative group.
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: xuenchen
No proof anywhere that Page was even an advisor to Trump.
No link to the court papers.
No proof Page confirmed anything to BuzzFeed.
Gotta Love It.
Trump admitted he was an advisor but only for weeks according to trump..
Proof ?
or conjecture ?
originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
And of course the alleged "recruitment" was a complete failure.
Meanwhile this is the time frame when Hillary sold out our uranium to the russians.
I guess that makes Hillary and the obam administration "russian operatives" by current unhinged dem standards.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
This was published about an hour ago. Carter Page was meeting with and being actively recruited by a known Russian spy in 2013 according to new reporting from BuzzFeed:
A Former Trump Adviser Met With A Russian Spy
NEW YORK — A former campaign adviser for Donald Trump met with and passed documents to a Russian intelligence operative in New York City in 2013.
The adviser, Carter Page, met with a Russian intelligence operative named Victor Podobnyy, who was later charged by the US government alongside two others for acting as unregistered agents of a foreign government. The charges, filed in January 2015, came after federal investigators busted a Russian spy ring that was seeking information on US sanctions as well as efforts to develop alternative energy. Page is an energy consultant.
A court filing by the US government contains a transcript of a recorded conversation in which Podobnyy speaks with one of the other men busted in the spy ring, Igor Sporyshev, about trying to recruit someone identified as “Male-1.” BuzzFeed News has confirmed that “Male-1” is Page.
The court filing includes a colorful transcript of Podobnyy speaking with Sporyshev about trying to recruit Page.
“[Male-1] wrote that he is sorry, he went to Moscow and forgot to check his inbox, but he wants to meet when he gets back. I think he is an idiot and forgot who I am...He got hooked on Gazprom thinking that if they have a project, he could rise up,” Podobnyy said. “I also promised him a lot...this is intelligence method to cheat, how else to work with foreigners? You promise a favor for a favor. You get the documents from him and tell him to go f###[my edit] himself.”
Here's Carter Page's confirmation and response:
Page confirmed to BuzzFeed News on Monday that he is “Male-1” in the court filing, and said he had been in contact with Podobnyy, who was working at the time at Moscow’s UN office in New York City under diplomatic cover, although he was really an SVR agent. Pressed on details of his contact with Podobnyy, Page said their interactions did not include anything sensitive. According to the complaint, Page met Podobnyy in January 2013 at an energy conference in New York. It says that from January to June of that year, Page met with, emailed with and “provided documents to [Podobnyy] about the energy business.”
This first question that came to my mind was this: Could this be the "incidental collection" that Nunes is speaking of?
I don't think it could have been unless Nunes was lying/misleading/wrong about the investigation in question having a Russian angle. Not that I'd put more lying past Nunes at this point.
originally posted by: Ohanka
How can Russia be both financially bankrupt, but also have the funds necessary for this alleged colossal election rigging operation? Seems expensive.
The contradictory narratives from the globalists destroy themselves. Like a paradox.
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: theantediluvian
Still no proof he worked for Trump.
Still no proof he is "Male-1".
originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: theantediluvian
The transaction of Rosatom taking over Uranium One needed the signature of the Secretary of State. She signed it. So she approved it.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
And of course the alleged "recruitment" was a complete failure.
Meanwhile this is the time frame when Hillary sold out our uranium to the russians.
I guess that makes Hillary and the obam administration "russian operatives" by current unhinged dem standards.
Could you please explain how Hillary "sold our uranium to the russians[sic]?" Because frankly, I know for a fact that it's not true and if you can't make an argument to defend it and you know this and yet you keep repeating it, you're deliberating spreading disinformation.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: theantediluvian
originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
And of course the alleged "recruitment" was a complete failure.
Meanwhile this is the time frame when Hillary sold out our uranium to the russians.
I guess that makes Hillary and the obam administration "russian operatives" by current unhinged dem standards.
Could you please explain how Hillary "sold our uranium to the russians[sic]?" Because frankly, I know for a fact that it's not true and if you can't make an argument to defend it and you know this and yet you keep repeating it, you're deliberating spreading disinformation.
Hillary was selling uranium on no more evidence than an infowars article....
But every single news organization is in a vast interconnected conspiracy to take trump down and all the smoke is just a coincidence...
The mental backflips for that are just amazing..
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: theantediluvian
originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
And of course the alleged "recruitment" was a complete failure.
Meanwhile this is the time frame when Hillary sold out our uranium to the russians.
I guess that makes Hillary and the obam administration "russian operatives" by current unhinged dem standards.
Could you please explain how Hillary "sold our uranium to the russians[sic]?" Because frankly, I know for a fact that it's not true and if you can't make an argument to defend it and you know this and yet you keep repeating it, you're deliberating spreading disinformation.
Hillary was selling uranium on no more evidence than an infowars article....
But every single news organization is in a vast interconnected conspiracy to take trump down and all the smoke is just a coincidence...
The mental backflips for that are just amazing..
This quote exemplifies the struggle held here on ATS and pretty much every place that wishes to have honest and open discussion about important topics.
Let me explain.
HRC selling uranium directly may not be true BUT the circumstances surrounding the vote and what her husband were doing was. Also it spans much more territory than an Infowars article.
Every news organization covertly conspiring to take down Trump is hyperbole. Does this need more explanation? I would hope not.
Finally, gaslighting the opposing view does not lend you more credibility. It puts you right in line with what you are pretentiously putting yourself above.
Just
We can have worth while discussion.