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At what point do we accept we've lost?

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posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

i don't understand what is up for grabs.
what is won?
what is lost?




posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
Perhaps, but I think it's more about how "they" use that opportunity.

And "they" are smarter and better equipped than I.

Who is they? And why do you care about them? Are they preventing you from living a happy life? My life is pretty happy right now. Things could be better politically for me, but I don't foresee the end of the world or anything. Spring and Summer are around the corner and I'm excited to get out and experience nature. See a bunch of live music and live my life. What about you? Are you planning on moping about # you can't control or are you going to live your life too?
edit on 3-4-2017 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: subfab

That's a good question.

It's hard to quantify what is lost and gained by TPTB.

It could be a win for me. And a loss for people having weddings within drone range.



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Why I care is from 1984...

"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever."

It may be for the greater good, it may not.
But it is what it is.



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 03:11 PM
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Don't worry. 1984 could not physically come to pass anymore. You should fear Idiocracy happening moreso. But in either case, it's just a guess. Humans are notoriously bad guessers about the future. So again stop worrying about what you can't control and go live your life. I guarantee things won't be so bad for you if you just let these things go.



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 03:15 PM
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So again stop worrying about what you can't control and go live your life. I guarantee things won't be so bad for you if you just let these things go.



Very wise advice.



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Idiocracy is happening.

The middle class disappearing is more social than economic.

But the trailer parks will never have the same clout as those guys that live in their forefathers house for 4-8 years rent free.



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

Sure we have lost control, but we have not lost.



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Ask people in their 80's and they will probably tell you that life has never been better than it is today.
Food,
Medical care,
Leisure time,
Perspective maybe?


Well a lot of that is perspective. Happiness has gone down whilst telescreens have grown.



The 80's was heaven compared to the crap We have today. In the 80's a single mother could afford to take their children to the emergency room without all the freebies or insurance. In the 80's people left their doors unlocked because We had a strong since of community. In the 80's family ties were stronger and families actually ate dinner together. In the 80's people were actually proud to be Americans. In the 80's You didn't have the centralized media trying to cause racial division 24/7. I could actually do this all day but the only thing that's better today is the internet and more TV channels and besides that everything else is worse today.



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 03:49 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Krazysh0t




So again stop worrying about what you can't control and go live your life. I guarantee things won't be so bad for you if you just let these things go.



Very wise advice.



Actually Jesus preached the exact same thing about letting go of the things You can't change.



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: PhoenixOD

Is freedom just another word for nothing left to lose? Maybe.

When everything the American people believe is false, TPTB will know that their misinformation efforts have been completely successful, at least according to William Casey.



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 04:05 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: schuyler


And, for the record, Marx's idea of a solution is worse than the problem.

What is your solution, then?


I addressed that in my previous posts in this thread.
Would you be unduly bothered to copy and paste a link to your earlier post that explains why Marx's idea was disastrous?


If you can point to a nation of significance that has successfully followed the percepts of Marx, that would be ideal. As far as I'm concerned it has proven a disaster in societies as diverse as Cuba and the Soviet Union. China? Oh, please. It's a great capitalist state. We can argue about Marx all day, but for the purposes of this thread it is sufficient for you to know that I am NOT on your side. If you want my thoughts posted previously on this thread, go read them. I'm not going to repost them in the same damn thread.



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

Hm.. No, I was thinking more of the Democratic Socialist states that have universal health care, universal education, and strong economies.



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 04:34 PM
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We can't be old men waving our fists at the clouds.

There is constant improvement. I'm of 80's stock.
I watched Jordan's 2nd 3peat and cared.

But whilst the "new agers" are weak as piss little girly mother....as,

Our parents thought the same about us.



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: PhoenixOD
Is freedom just another word for nothing left to lose? Maybe.


I've been front row and center for Slayer But...
The Jennifer Love Hewitt version of that is in my top 10 all time.



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 05:36 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

It's not always a matter of "letting things go", as that tends to be very selfish. There are actually some people who are worried about what it is they leave behind.



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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It's not lost if you remember the 2 most important days in your life....


"The day you were born, and the day you figured out why"



posted on Apr, 3 2017 @ 06:07 PM
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Let me ask? At what point, do you stop breathing?... You can "define" freedom all for yourself. Or Let, "Democracy" define your "freedom". Don't forget they got/have, the "lawful/legal" tax dollar, supporting, the, their/the "public education/indoctrination" system.. "Learn" to dig deep... And not survive. Learn that? And you'll probably die a man or woman and not a branded chattel.



posted on Apr, 4 2017 @ 04:09 AM
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The ideas of Marx were not disastrous. It was what was done in his name i.e. the application of the ideas that caused the tragic situations. Cuba was a popular uprising until towards the end they decided to become Marxist overnight!



posted on Apr, 4 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
Only those that think they shouldn't be predestined for jail.

Jesus needs a pair of shoes and a shave, maybe then I'll listen to him.

Repented demons are already half way to the Lake of Fire. So yes, demons are predestined for jail.

Those who cannot handle Corinthians 1.15.2 are destined to stay in jail. Everyone who does have genuine faith in Yahushua will rise to new spiritual levels.

The devil has a beard (Kronus) and will offer free money to jump start his new world economy after this economy implodes.

Everyone will take the Mark and sell their souls for a million new world currency credits, whether he has a beard or not.

his hoofs will stop him from wearing shoes.



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