At what point do we accept we've lost?

To all those like myself who like to use the term TPTB.

If you believe in TPTB then we have lost.

We live in a Walmart world where the rich get richer.
I see no reason why politics should run by different principles however I'm constantly wrong so I look forward to being told so.

But just like McDonalds has won the fast food war, have TPTB won the real war?

Is it over?

It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

It's game over man... can I haz yer stuff??

a reply to: Orwells Ghost

Have you listened to the radio or watched MTV?

Fat ladies singing don't exist now.

originally posted by: DogMeat
It's game over man... can I haz yer stuff??

You are more than welcome to my debt.

Krahzeef_Ukhar

There are endless opportunities in life to be succesful and break free of the 'matrix'.
With this attitude.. yes.. then YOU have lost..

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

Firstly the Americans are still armed to the teeth, and this is a major advantage and deterrent.

Second, there are many fast food restaurants that are competing for Mcdon's "clients", we just need to give them a try (fund them).

Third, at some point the system is going to reach a point of change (crash). I think TPTB want to initiate the change so they can control and profit from the change.

You cannot say, "fat lady" anymore, that is not politically correct.

Ask people in their 80's and they will probably tell you that life has never been better than it is today.
Food,
Medical care,
Leisure time,
Perspective maybe?

a reply to: seasonal

We're Burger King, They're Macca's.

Probably. Go down swinging I say.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Ask people in their 80's and they will probably tell you that life has never been better than it is today.
Food,
Medical care,
Leisure time,
Perspective maybe?

Well a lot of that is perspective. Happiness has gone down whilst telescreens have grown.

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
At what point do we accept we've lost??

When we attain the awareness that it's not about winning or losing.

originally posted by: The GUT
Probably. Go down swinging I say.

From a tree.

It's the greenest thing you can do.

originally posted by: Realtruth

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
At what point do we accept we've lost??

When we attain the awareness that it's not about winning or losing.

I totally agree...

But that's loser talk.

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

We're headed towards a cliff edge and our only choice is in whatever direction we want to flap our arms in. I mean, efforts are looking futile.

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar
@At what point do we accept we've lost?

Whenever the win is fair. At that point you evaluate why you lost and motivate yourself more.
If it is a scenario of a unfair loss then use common sense...

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
a reply to: Orwells Ghost

Have you listened to the radio or watched MTV?

Fat ladies singing don't exist now.

Adele, Kelly clarkson and a few others. If that ain't fat, how do you define fat?

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

"TPTB" may be in control now, but every empire decays from the inside out and inevitably falls. A shadow empire is no different. When the emerging generations learn to live independently of "TPTB" and the dependent generation meets its fate, then the tables will turn again.

Its all cyclical. Generations of psychological slavery, then generations of enlightenment...rinse...repeat....