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OBAMA Admin Committed Felonies by SPYING and UNMASKING TRUMPs Team For POLITICAL Purposes.

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posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: Flatfish
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

For starters, there are a number of "if this is true" statements in those articles

No there aren't. The closest we have to that kind of statement is the IC saying they are interpreting the Warrant for OTHER PEOPLE as being valid for Trump.


Once nefarious activity has been detected, I believe it's there duty to follow that trail wherever it leads.

Certainly. So what was the exact nefarious activity that just so happened to start right when Trump started running for President?


If their not allowed to investigate the people implicated by their current intelligence just because that person is American and in the middle of a campaign, we may as well just concede defeat.

They can. They can get legal warrants and do it. What I just sourced was Democrats saying and agreeing with the Warrants being denied, and so the IC got warrants on OTHER people and then acted as if the warrants were on Trump anyways, because it was never about the people who they got warrants for, it was about the guy they could not get a warrant for.

Now let's say they did in fact skirt the law to spy on Trump. I actually don't care all that much. What DOES matter, is when no illegal activity is found, the spying continues, and then information is LEAKED for purely political purposes. And if that does not bother you then you sir need to check your bias, because THAT is what will destroy Democracy.




posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04


All of that reporting circles back to Heat Street and a conservative British reporter.

She has hedged some of what she reported at the time.

That said...IF true...It likely centered on people like Carter Page, Erik Prince, Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort...all folks who have been reported to have been under surveillance for espionage activities before Trump came on the scene.

Hell...It was just reported a couple days ago that carter page handed over documents to a Russian Spy (since convicted) in 2013. Paul Manafort was an unregistered agent of Russia for over a decade...that we know of, payments were only tracked up until 2009. Erik Prince has been under investigation for several years for Gun Running and Money Laundering and Flynn has been watched since at least 2014...now declared foreign agent of Turkey throughout 2016 at least.

So sure..it's possible that Trump campaign folks were under surveillance last January...but we only have one reporter in the UK (Heatstreet) with anonymous sources.

Congressman Jaoquin Castro, who sits on the House Intelligence Committee investigating this said yesterday, after reviewing classified material, that he believes it is very likely that Trump Campaign Associates will "go to jail" once the investigation is complete and evidence made public...No small statement from someone that has been pouring over classified material for the past couple of months.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

And the plot thickens, the spying started even before it was a Russian link, it was for political reasons alright.

Susan Rice's Unraveling Web of Lies
Obama's attack on our democracy becomes too clear to ignore.


www.frontpagemag.com...
edit on 5-4-2017 by marg6043 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 09:09 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: OccamsRazor04


All of that reporting circles back to Heat Street and a conservative British reporter.

False. I linked other sources which independently verified it. NO DEMOCRAT was saying this did not happen back in January. They all said it was indicative of Trump being guilty. Salon even ran a story saying the warrant on Trump being denied does not show he is innocent at all.

Again, NO ONE was saying it did not happen. It was later when they realized how bad this was for them they started pushing the line of 'didn't happen'. Back in January it was all yes it happened and wow Trump looks bad.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: carewemust

And the plot thickens, the spying started even before it was a Russian link, it was for political reasons alright.

Susan Rice's Unraveling Web of Lies
Obama's attack on our democracy becomes too clear to ignore.


www.frontpagemag.com...


No offense Marg..but I used to expect better from you even when we disagree.

That's a full on BS site packed full of half-truths and lies.

Lord...did you read the tagline and the Trump book sales ad?

Try this..What HARD evidence do you have to support what you just claimed?

As in REAL..not partisan ideologues just saying stuff..



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04


Nope...It all went back to Heat Street...Show me one that didn't trace back to that story.


Not sure we are having an honest discussion here..



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: Indigo5

No better than believing that is Collusion with Trump and Russia.

Hey touché.

This politics.

Under The Russia link we are to believe all the leaks, anonymous sources, third party dialogues over sea and nothing but innuendos and rumors.

And that is good and dandy, Rice is in deep crap and is very obvious why.

She lie in the news media, but hell CNN do not want to hear about it.

"I know nothing about this."

- Susan Rice, on the unmasking of Americans


March 22.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: marg6043


No...You look like the rest of the far right folks linking to full on fake news...


You might as well just sell Pizzagate..


Having a hard time finding you moderately credible like I used to...



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: marg6043


Whether she REQUESTED they be unmasked is not known. Only that she was the one that requested further Docs.


If she did REQUEST the unmasking...It happens all the time...and the CIA/FBI/NSA have a legal team that decides if the unmasking is necessary or relevant to the intelligence and if the intelligence is HIGHLY CRITICAL to National Security..


So if Rice did request Unmasking...Lawyers from CIA/FBI/NSA all agreed it was legit and that it was necessary for a HIGHLY CRITICAL NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.


AND Trump can release these docs in less than 2 seconds..If they show what he claims...he should do so immediately. He can declassify them with a swipe of the pen.


Instead he is hoping fake news propagators and supporters are willing to join him in lies and spin.


HOPEFULLY...The intelligence committee getting the docs now, despites Nunes trying to keep them from them...means we will one day find out why Trump Campaign folks were considered by CIA/NSA/FBI to be involved in a scheme that was a critical threat to national security that warranted unmasking the names.


edit on 5-4-2017 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: carewemust

And the plot thickens, the spying started even before it was a Russian link, it was for political reasons alright.

Susan Rice's Unraveling Web of Lies
Obama's attack on our democracy becomes too clear to ignore.


www.frontpagemag.com...


Exactly right Marg6043. In fact, here's some REAL news to bolster what you said...

""Trump comes down elevator in June of 2015, right? He says what he says. Everybody expects Trump to implode. Everybody thinks Hillary’s gonna win in a landslide. Everybody thinks that Trump’s gonna step in it and he’s not even serious. He’s doing this for other reasons, to promote ratings for his TV show The Apprentice or what have you. By October, Trump is still there, and he’s running rings around people in the polls and he’s doing well in Republican debates and his popularity is soaring — and that’s when surveillance begins, October of 2015.""

Full Analysis of Obama Admin's Crimes in THIS Matter: www.rushlimbaugh.com...



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Now that the news media outlets do not wants to touch any news on Rice we have to rely on whatever is there to find the truth, she lie, that is a fact, she did within her job what she was expected to do that is a fact, but she also extended the powers of over reach to do more, that is another fact.

She is in crap up to her neck and anybody that she share information with.

I got tired of the if is not reliable sources is not credible, but that was before the media went bias and refuse to cover what is only in their best interest.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

This is the key here,


The White House does not do investigations. And if the White House is doing investigations, it’s not because they’re looking into criminal things. It’s because they are engaged in political activity. The White House is not an investigative agency of the federal government. It is not. There are other elements of the executive branch that do investigations.


Susan Rice job specification only extend so much and is been portrayed like she can do anything, that if the big boss Obama asked her to do just that.

From the source you provided, thanks.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: buster2010

Mexican isn't a race. Its a nationality.


For whatever that is worth.

My wife is ethnically "mexican"....but her family lived in Texas when it was still mexico.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

What are you talking about? The top stories of the day on most news outlets are talking about Susan Rice. Also, this:

but she also extended the powers of over reach to do more, that is another fact.

isn't a fact. It's your opinion and one that is GROSSLY unproven.


She is in crap up to her neck and anybody that she share information with.

No she isn't. There is not a single person who matters who thinks that Rice did anything wrong.


I got tired of the if is not reliable sources is not credible, but that was before the media went bias and refuse to cover what is only in their best interest.

Lol. This statement says SOOOO much about you.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

But Latino is a race. Mexico is latino in make up.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 10:26 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

Exactly.

Repeat:


So because those are the three agencies that do investigations, FBI, CIA, NSA, if any unmasking was relevant to Russia investigation, it would have been done by those three agencies, not by Susan Rice, not by the White House. The fact the White House is involved is the big stink.


Let's let that sink in.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 10:27 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

But Latino is a race. Mexico is latino in make up.


Im not gonna disagree with you (she's only 4'11" tall....but she pokes my ribs hard so i know better). But the federal government doesn't agree. She gets recorded as "caucasian".

That one little trick is what keeps prison stats from looking so stacked and racist against black people. But nonetheless....




posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Is not a race we are mixed with other races.

Latino is people from central, Caribbean and south America,Latino comes from the latin. The latin is the language that Spanish originated from.

Is a demonym.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: queenofswords

The problem is that no matter how much you try to explain and show how much extension of powers Susan Rice did over her job description on spying on Americas specifically Trump team, people will believe what they want to believe.

The same way that right now, while the intelligence committee can not find a link of collusion so far, the media already had condemn Trump and executed him and even replaced him with Pence.

Susan Rice will burn.



posted on Apr, 5 2017 @ 11:06 AM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: marg6043

Exactly.

Repeat:



So because those are the three agencies that do investigations, FBI, CIA, NSA, if any unmasking was relevant to Russia investigation, it would have been done by those three agencies, not by Susan Rice, not by the White House.

The fact the White House is involved is the big stink.



?????

Correct except for the last sentence.

FBI, CIA, NSA...REGULLARY...NEAR DAILY...Sent intelligence to the NSC that Susan Rice was Director of at the Whitehouse.

It is their job. It was Susan Rice's job to evaluate what they sent her.

What qualifies for elevation to NSC/Rice/WH? Any issue that is deemed critically important to National Security.

"The fact the White House is involved is the big stink"

The idea that the National Security Counsel/WH is not involved in what the CIA/FBI/NSA deems the most critical National Security Issues is frankly stupid.

The real question is WHY FBI/NSA/CIA found whatever was in that intelligence so critical to national security that they thought it warranted briefing the National Security Advisor of the President.

We can find that out from Trump if he would simply release the docs. He can do that with a swipe of the pen.
Why hasn't he done that?...The Answer is obvious.




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