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U.S. Says It Is No Longer Interested In Forcing Assad To Step Down; Focused On ISIS Instead

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posted on Apr, 1 2017 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Idreamofme
a reply to: 727Sky

Good. Usa needs to leave people alone and mind their own business. We are the "bad guys". I hate our policies. We suck.


So when the President sends American troops to help Assad and Putin defeat ISIS, will that be a good thing or a bad thing?


That won't be necessary. The Islamic State is collapsing on all fronts.


Yep it is amazing how quick they are folding after their hundred truck oil convoys have been stopped from delivering oil to Turkey for resale..

Besides they can shift all their efforts and support to the dictator in charge of Turkey now who has the same goals of an Islamic caliphate and the destruction of Europe through immigration. The foot soldiers who are being killed now are an acceptable cost for the grand plan for only the strong under Allah's will can establish caliphate..... if I am wrong then so be it....but that is what it looks like to me.. inter-tribal fighting has always been the hall mark and way to choose the blessed one's rise to power..

As far as Assad killing his own people and that being the reason for the insurgent war.. Sorry most won't buy that and I am to lazy to post all the stuff about pipe lines and the 7 country grand plan that most on ATS are aware of. But I will add a few links just because I have a little time to do so.. journal-neo.org...


In their report, BIRN and OCCRP stated that the acquisition of significant amounts of military weapons from the countries of Central and Eastern Europe for the Syrian opposition were directly controlled by Washington. Earlier, the respected military journal Jane’s Defence Weekly in its article “US arms shipment to Syrian rebels detailed” stated that the US supplies the Syrian opposition with weapons and ammunition from Eastern Europe, and noted that these facts were almost officially recognized by the US Senate.

Over the last five years, Ukraine alone has sold nearly 615,000 small arms to Syria. But it’s curious that its official customers are not third world nations, but large Western companies like Hire & Fire, IZH Impex Inc, Waffen Schumacher GmbH, BVS, spol. Sro – all buying old Soviet weapons en masse. In 2012 alone the American Hire & Fire made an accusation of 90,000 Soviet rifles. That’s almost enough to arm four divisions, and in just one year.

Reports on US arms purchases provided by SOCOM show that it paid at least 27 million dollars for Bulgarian weapons and 12 million dollars for Serbian weapons and ammunition in a period from 2014 to 2016 that were supposed to be used for covert operations in Syria. Since December 2015, SOCOM commissioned three cargo ships to transport 4,700 tonnes of weapons and ammunition from the port of Constanta in Romania and Burgas in Bulgaria to the Middle East.


Assad's death warrant: www.unz.com...


“Secret cables and reports by the U.S., Saudi and Israeli intelligence agencies indicate that the moment Assad rejected the Qatari pipeline, military and intelligence planners quickly arrived at the consensus that fomenting a Sunni uprising in Syria to overthrow the uncooperative Bashar Assad was a feasible path to achieving the shared objective of completing the Qatar/Turkey gas link. In 2009, according to WikiLeaks, soon after Bashar Assad rejected the Qatar pipeline, the CIA began funding opposition groups in Syria.”



See how history is repeating itself? It’s like the CIA was too lazy to even write a new script, they just dusted off the old one and hired new actors.
Fortunately, Assad –with the help of Iran, Hezbollah and the Russian Airforce– has fended off the effort to oust him and install a US-stooge. This should not be taken as a ringing endorsement of Assad as a leader, but of the principal that global security depends on basic protections of national sovereignty, and that the cornerstone of international law has to be a rejection of unprovoked aggression whether the hostilities are executed by one’s own military or by armed proxies that are used to achieve the same strategic objectives while invoking plausible deniability. The fact is, there is no difference between Bush’s invasion of Iraq and Obama’s invasion of Syria. The moral, ethical and legal issues are the same, the only difference is that Obama has been more successful in confusing the American people about what is really going on.
And what’s going on is regime change: “Assad must go”. That’s been the administration’s mantra from the get go.




posted on Apr, 1 2017 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: 727Sky


“Secret cables and reports by the U.S., Saudi and Israeli intelligence agencies indicate that the moment Assad rejected the Qatari pipeline, military and intelligence planners quickly arrived at the consensus that fomenting a Sunni uprising in Syria to overthrow the uncooperative Bashar Assad was a feasible path to achieving the shared objective of completing the Qatar/Turkey gas link. In 2009, according to WikiLeaks, soon after Bashar Assad rejected the Qatar pipeline, the CIA began funding opposition groups in Syria.”



See how history is repeating itself? It’s like the CIA was too lazy to even write a new script, they just dusted off the old one and hired new actors.
Fortunately, Assad –with the help of Iran, Hezbollah and the Russian Airforce– has fended off the effort to oust him and install a US-stooge. This should not be taken as a ringing endorsement of Assad as a leader, but of the principal that global security depends on basic protections of national sovereignty, and that the cornerstone of international law has to be a rejection of unprovoked aggression whether the hostilities are executed by one’s own military or by armed proxies that are used to achieve the same strategic objectives while invoking plausible deniability. The fact is, there is no difference between Bush’s invasion of Iraq and Obama’s invasion of Syria. The moral, ethical and legal issues are the same, the only difference is that Obama has been more successful in confusing the American people about what is really going on.
And what’s going on is regime change: “Assad must go”. That’s been the administration’s mantra from the get go.


So, there it is as plain as day. Karma, reap what you sow, whatever, sooner or later, and it's looking sooner every minute, this is coming back on us in a major way (think Rome.)

We've been doing this steadily since they killed JFK and it really needs to stop. Part of me believes Prez Trump is karma for Kennedy. Our country may not survive it, but the rogue deep state will finally be deservedly shattered into a thousand pieces and scattered to the wind.

This aspect needs a thread of it's own if you maybe would for everybody, Sky? It would help folk understand Syria better and that can only be a good thing. I want to thank you while I'm here, brother, you bring us some very important stuff and I know I'm not alone in appreciating your contributions.



edit on 1-4-2017 by The GUT because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 2 2017 @ 05:14 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

People even within this thread have been suggesting that he's getting undeserved bad press so I'm not too sure about nobody thinking he's a good guy. I don't believe in regime change per se, but I just wonder if the Trump government is making these statements aloud (as opposed to just not actually doing anything to try and assist regime change) because Assad is publicly backed by Putin.



posted on Apr, 2 2017 @ 05:16 AM
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originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: infolurker

People even within this thread have been suggesting that he's getting undeserved bad press so I'm not too sure about nobody thinking he's a good guy. I don't believe in regime change per se, but I just wonder if the Trump government is making these statements aloud (as opposed to just not actually doing anything to try and assist regime change) because Assad is publicly backed by Putin.


He's backed by everyone outside of North America, The Saudi savages and Europe. About 80% of the planet.



posted on Apr, 2 2017 @ 05:42 AM
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originally posted by: The GUT

originally posted by: 727Sky


“Secret cables and reports by the U.S., Saudi and Israeli intelligence agencies indicate that the moment Assad rejected the Qatari pipeline, military and intelligence planners quickly arrived at the consensus that fomenting a Sunni uprising in Syria to overthrow the uncooperative Bashar Assad was a feasible path to achieving the shared objective of completing the Qatar/Turkey gas link. In 2009, according to WikiLeaks, soon after Bashar Assad rejected the Qatar pipeline, the CIA began funding opposition groups in Syria.”



See how history is repeating itself? It’s like the CIA was too lazy to even write a new script, they just dusted off the old one and hired new actors.
Fortunately, Assad –with the help of Iran, Hezbollah and the Russian Airforce– has fended off the effort to oust him and install a US-stooge. This should not be taken as a ringing endorsement of Assad as a leader, but of the principal that global security depends on basic protections of national sovereignty, and that the cornerstone of international law has to be a rejection of unprovoked aggression whether the hostilities are executed by one’s own military or by armed proxies that are used to achieve the same strategic objectives while invoking plausible deniability. The fact is, there is no difference between Bush’s invasion of Iraq and Obama’s invasion of Syria. The moral, ethical and legal issues are the same, the only difference is that Obama has been more successful in confusing the American people about what is really going on.
And what’s going on is regime change: “Assad must go”. That’s been the administration’s mantra from the get go.


So, there it is as plain as day. Karma, reap what you sow, whatever, sooner or later, and it's looking sooner every minute, this is coming back on us in a major way (think Rome.)

We've been doing this steadily since they killed JFK and it really needs to stop. Part of me believes Prez Trump is karma for Kennedy. Our country may not survive it, but the rogue deep state will finally be deservedly shattered into a thousand pieces and scattered to the wind.

This aspect needs a thread of it's own if you maybe would for everybody, Sky? It would help folk understand Syria better and that can only be a good thing. I want to thank you while I'm here, brother, you bring us some very important stuff and I know I'm not alone in appreciating your contributions.




My friend feel free to start one.. I have no time presently as I am in a Golf tournament and out of town...Basically drained of clear thought after a hard day of working the stupid little white ball// Presently number 4 out of 125 so at least I have made the cut.

Besides you would do a better thread than me...



posted on Apr, 2 2017 @ 06:02 AM
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a reply to: Ohanka


He's backed by everyone outside of North America, The Saudi savages and Europe. About 80% of the planet.


You mean he's tolerated by countries like China because he recognizes their illegal territorial claims.



posted on Apr, 2 2017 @ 06:31 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky




Ahem ,,, You fellas need a room? Just kidding


edit on 2-4-2017 by darepairman because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 2 2017 @ 07:46 AM
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originally posted by: Ohanka

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: infolurker

People even within this thread have been suggesting that he's getting undeserved bad press so I'm not too sure about nobody thinking he's a good guy. I don't believe in regime change per se, but I just wonder if the Trump government is making these statements aloud (as opposed to just not actually doing anything to try and assist regime change) because Assad is publicly backed by Putin.


He's backed by everyone outside of North America, The Saudi savages and Europe. About 80% of the planet.

DJW001 beat me to it.
edit on 2-4-2017 by uncommitted because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 2 2017 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: darepairman
a reply to: 727Sky




Ahem ,,, You fellas need a room? Just kidding

We have matching golf bags. Just kidding too.



posted on Apr, 2 2017 @ 12:18 PM
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Surprising ISIS with "troop" deployment sounds good, but you are not so surprising if you write it on the news! I mean the damn terrorists follow social media even.



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