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Why should Russia be America's adverasary?

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posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 07:10 PM
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1. More than half a million American lives were sacrificed fighting Germany, Japan, Italy in WW1 and WW2. America and Russia never fought a war.

2. Russia was kind enough to sell Alaska to America at a discount.

3. Russia and America compete with arms sales, but competition is good for everyone. Boeing and Airbus compete on the world market. GM and Toyota compete on the world market. HP and Samsung compete on the world market. Competition between America and Russia in the arms market is very minor.

4. Had Georgia not invaded South Ossetia and Abkhazia independence movements, Russia would have never intervened on behalf of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Had Maidan uprising that wanted Yanukovych's head not happened, Russia would have never annexed Crimea.

5. Russians are invaluable allies against jihadists. You know, those folks who are out to get the west, no matter Russia or America.

6. The space race between Russia and America greatly benefited mankind with all sorts of spin off technologies.


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posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 07:38 PM
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America and Russia never fought a war.


Apart from the proxy wars during the cold war, there is also this

en.m.wikipedia.org...



posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

Russia didn't just hack the DNC and Podesta. They hacked Rubio too. And thousands of others Americans.

And they weaponized some very specific information they got, added in a bunch of fake news stories and were very successful at disrupting our elections, pitting unwitting Bernie Bros against Hillary supporters. Good times. They had fun!

More than that, they hacked US military families through spouse's emails. Wikileaks has files with their hacked photos. Here is the drive the photos are on from twitter:

It is on their site - can't post the link on ATS


Putin murders people. He is a dictator masked by a false democracy.

Russian interests are not benign. They seek to diminish American influence and hope to see us turn inwards, becoming Nationalists, so Putin is free to expand his empire. He seeks to break NATO countries as well, disempowering them so they have no United front to present.

That's for starters.

I know there are people here who don't believe Russia hacked anything. That's what they want you to believe. I can't help you.


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edit on 31-3-2017 by AboveBoard because: Typos galore



posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 07:48 PM
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No. Facts and logic do not count. Liberals keep banging the war drums because their God-Empress lost the election



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posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

They shouldn't be, but there is money to be made and we need a boogy man.



posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: AboveBoard

By your logic the entire planet should be nuking US all RIGHT NOW.



posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: allsee4eye

They shouldn't be, but there is money to be made and we need a boogy man.


So the Russians are cruzing off the coast of America with spy ships....why?

www.foxnews.com...


Putin thinks America is weak sauce and is just waiting for the right opportunity.



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posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 08:20 PM
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I can answer that because are soldiers didn't go through basic to raise the red flag um they went thru basic and died for your country because America is the #1 country in the world and unlike France we never surrender must I remind you about the Cold War and how close we were to nuclear armagedron well it could all happen over again the commies cannot shall not and will never be are allies so just learn to deal!


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posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 08:32 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

Also we have similar based founded religions no?



posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

International waters.



posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: allsee4eye

They shouldn't be, but there is money to be made and we need a boogy man.


Military industrial complex. America needs an enemy that can really challenge them, in order to keep getting better and better at making bigger and bigger bombs..



posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: olaru12

International waters.


Yeah, and Russia's Submarines are in international waters, armed with nukes capable of strinking American cities in 6 min.

freebeacon.com...

nationalinterest.org...

Some kind of friends eh?



posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Friends are determined by action.



posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

They are intercontinental so basically anywhere they are we are at "risk". 6 minutes or 9 minutes is very little difference.



posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 08:53 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

True. Why doesn't the US field a submarine that replaces Ohio and challenges Borei? No money?



posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: snowspirit

Better and better not the main goal, the money is the goal. And if the "product" for war can be sold to both sides of a conflict all the better (profitable).

There is no allegiance, there is only money.



posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

How many earths can we destroy?

Is there a point?



posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 08:57 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

There is more to life then money! The Russians found out that the hard way when there money collapsed and there economy collapsed and the USSR failed back when the republicans were last in office! Thanks to king Obama Russia almost rose up again like a Phoenix but if you don't know your legends that will go right over he heads of all the PC snowflakes!



posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: FuggleHop

I don't think Putin got the memo on $$$ not being everything. His bank accounts are fat. Politicians lie.
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posted on Mar, 31 2017 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

They might have already done that if they thought they could do it without a counter strike or M.A.D.

But since nobody wants to risk extinction we just have smaller battles now hoping to wear each other down.




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