An omnipotent God needs absolutely nothing from us. Based on God's indifference to unnecessary evil, I believe it has implications. There seems to
be no amount of evil God will not tolerate in order to preserve our free will. So if you accept God does not care one way or other whether we burn in
Hell or make it through the gates of Heaven, then what exactly would an omnipotent God want from us?
Lately I've been resonating with the idea that our God is more pantheistic in nature:
"Pantheism is the belief that all reality is identical with divinity, or that everything composes an all-encompassing, immanent god. Pantheists thus
do not believe in a distinct personal or anthropomorphic god."
So if you accept the idea of pantheistic type God, then maybe we could use ourselves as a mirror in determining what is good and moral. Assume for
moment our purpose for existing is so our infinite omnipotent God can experience the thrill of having limitations by existentially sharing our
experiences of joys, frustrations, and miseries. So what is good and moral would be determined by what makes us feel good. What gives us enthusiasm
is what God wants us to do.
The problem with this idea is I have heard the people who worship a anthropomorphic-judgmental-God will say, "Oh, so if it feels good do it." There
lies the edge. I think what we have to incorporated the golden rule of morality into the idea. That is, what feels good cannot be at the expense of
someone else's misery. In it's raw form, there is huge distinction between consensual sex and rape. One requires having a respect for someone
else's personal boundaries and desires. And the other is clearly an act of evil.
Of course, a non-pantheistic God is much more popular. People worship and love a anthropomorphic-judgmental-God. People are vengeful by nature and
take great pleasure in the idea that there will be justice in the afterlife. I just don't think that is true. An omnipotent God, again, needs
absolutely nothing from us so I do not believe such a God would be vengeful. I think people who commit the most evil acts are allowed through the
gates of Heaven to experience eternal bliss regardless of our personal desire for revenge.
I have heard people claim their vengeful anthropomorphic-judgmental-God is also a God of love. I just don't see how those two can coexist at the same
time. Either God is loving and accepting of everything about our human nature and its results or He is not. It seems to make more sense to me that
an omnipotent God would allow everyone through the gates of Heaven to experience eternal bliss regardless of our earthly sins. I think the desire for
revenge is a petty human emotion. Many of us do not have control over the menu of our choices. Sometimes we are force to choose from a set of
choices where all the choices are immoral and evil to some degree. I think unless we are given omnipotent powers, in many ways, we do not have as
much free-will as our delusional desires would have us think.
Our earthly sins are more important in the near term to the people who are around us. What if the only way you can achieve salvation is not from God
but by getting forgiveness from the people we have sin against? That would make for an interesting morality. Say the only way you can achieve
absolution is by making amends. Just saying some words is just not good enough. You have to get other people to forgive you. If you do not get
people to forgive you then you will not suffer in the hereafter, but even worse, you will suffer right now in this life! Hell is here on earth now
created by our own choosing.
I think the people who claim you have to say certain words in a certain order or you will burn in Hell are ignoring the way we experience God. How is
saying words in a certain way any different than pagan sacrifices around the time of Jesus. The idea that certain actions in relationship to God may
matter is questionable. Having a relationship to God is easy. Fixing our relationships with other people is hard. People are generally fat and
lazy. Most people avoid pain and seek pleasure. I think taking the easy way out to avoid personal responsibility is what most people tend to do.
Taking the easy way out is missing the point of having morality. Having morality is tightly tied to personal responsibility in my opinion.
Other than our imaginary delusions, there is no evidence supporting the idea that God is participating directly in our lives. Everyone I've ever
heard say otherwise will claim some sequence of personal experiences is the evidence. Based on God's consistent indifference, I think each of us is
more responsible for our own salvation. God sees us through our own reflection or introspection of our own character. I don't think attending church
or saying certain words will change anything with regards to our own personal responsibility.
A pantheistic type God knows all, sees all, and shares our experiences. Many of the religious types here will probably say something, "that's not
what the Bible says." It's okay, I get it. Some people must be told what to think. It's just the way they are.
edit on 31-3-2017 by dfnj2015 because: typos