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The not so hidden Agenda of climate change.

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posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 11:45 AM
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Okay, I am not saying that climate change isn't occurring.

We are being stampeded by the"panic" surrounding environmental. Rash choices are being made (speaking mostly about canada at this point) that are effecting the economies of the first world nations.

Lots of good work is being done. Those vapour seals on gas pumps in California. Las Vegas has enough solar power to operate with out the Hover dam. There are many example.

We need to slow down and build our green, replacement, energy sources over time. We also need to recognize the coast lines are going to change and plan for it. We cannot stop it.


www.investors.com...
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posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: SmilingROB


So what is the goal of environmental policy? "We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy," said Edenhofer.


and:

For those who want to believe that maybe Edenhofer just misspoke and doesn't really mean that, consider that a little more than five years ago he also said that "the next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated."


just the facts.



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: SmilingROB

The coastlines was something they were talking about on NPR today. A topic of concern is hazardous waste landfills, power plants, and other infrastructure challenges that are on coastlines. What needs to be done to prepare for rising sealevels and a changing landscape?

We need to be proactive in order to successfully face these coming challenges.

And climate change is BIG business, is being politicized, and used to further restrict freedoms of the public. Great thread.



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 12:06 PM
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Climate change is because the Earth is moving toward the sun. At least according to this Republican Governor.

www.rawstory.com...


I think we can all rest easy now....



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 12:11 PM
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We need to invest in molten salt nuclear reactors:

www.ted.com...

But I imagine the Germans will have their hot fusion reactor working sooner than any US LFTR effort coming to fruition:

phys.org...

"Remarkable fidelity

Results showed a remarkable fidelity to the design of the highly complex magnetic field. "To our knowledge," the authors write of the discrepancy of less than one part in 100,000, "this is an unprecedented accuracy, both in terms of the as-built engineering of a fusion device, as well as in the measurement of magnetic topology."
The W7-X is the most recent version of the stellarator concept, which Lyman Spitzer, a Princeton University astrophysicist and founder of PPPL, originated during the 1950s. Stellarators mostly gave way to tokamaks a decade later, since the doughnut-shaped facilities are simpler to design and build and generally confine plasma better. But recent advances in plasma theory and computational power have led to renewed interest in stellarators."

Unprecedented accuracy. It's a done deal. The Germans are really good engineers.



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 12:14 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Climate change is because the Earth is moving toward the sun. At least according to this Republican Governor.

www.rawstory.com...


I think we can all rest easy now....


or this:

democrat logic.



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: SmilingROB

The climate is changing

This is disputed by people who for whatever reason think this is only political - and so they make it about politics. If some of those people want to agree that it's changing and still argue that it's all political - what do I care? It's changing - and we're going to have to find ways to live with it

There's a great deal of money to be made from finding ways to work with this situation

There's no point in telling people they're stupid anymore. We don't have that kind of time to waste



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 01:31 PM
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The climate has always been changing and it always will . China has to fix its problems . cleaner air and water are great things to fund . I don't think the coastline will change that much in the next 50 years . Putting a government in charge and giving it a bunch of money won't fix anything



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 02:23 PM
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I am still waiting for this coastline to change thing that was supposed to have started 20 years ago, still not risen at all,

When is that supposed to start again ?



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Climate change is because the Earth is moving toward the sun. At least according to this Republican Governor.

www.rawstory.com...


I think we can all rest easy now....


Oh boy...

We're so screwed!



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 03:35 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74

originally posted by: olaru12
Climate change is because the Earth is moving toward the sun. At least according to this Republican Governor.

www.rawstory.com...


I think we can all rest easy now....


Oh boy...

We're so screwed!


We always have been in one way or another. It is just that with the Internet we are seeing it more clearly!



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 06:01 PM
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This is a socialist’s perspective, surprise.

Global warming is a problem that will affect all governments and economies the world over, no one escapes. From a socialist’s point of view we all need to get together and work this problem out as it is going to cost a tremendous amount of money and everyone needs to be involved. Whether it be a global economy or some kind of cap-and-trade deal, everybody needs to be working together to help solve this problem. I’m not saying I agree with the solutions presented but let’s look at the alternatives.

We could let unfettered capitalism deal with it, I’m sure we all have a pretty good idea how that will work out.

How about denial? Global warming might not be as bad as they say or perhaps it is just a big hoax. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence and a majority of scientists that disagree but what do they know anyway?

Or denial seems to work for many. There probably isn’t anything we can do about it anyway. We could just push this on to the next generation, maybe they can think of something cleaver.

It seems to me that from reading the OP that Ottmar Edenhofer, et al., think that global warming could be an opportunity to bring socialism to the world. I don't agree but then again what do I know.


"What if global warming isn’t only a crisis?" Klein asks in a preview of a documentary inspired by her book. "What if it's the best chance we’re ever going to get to build a better world?"

In her mind, the world has to "change, or be changed" because an "economic system" -- meaning free-market capitalism -- has caused environmental "wreckage."



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: ParasuvO
a reply to: 10uoutlaw

I am still waiting for this coastline to change thing that was supposed to have started 20 years ago, still not risen at all,

When is that supposed to start again ?

Your not going to find it just sitting there, try Google.


Sea level has been rising over the past century, and the rate has increased in recent decades. In 2014, global sea level was 2.6 inches (67 mm) above the 1993 average—the highest annual average in the satellite record (1993-present). Sea level continues to rise at a rate of about one-eighth of an inch (3.2 mm) per year, due to a combination of melting glaciers and ice sheets, and thermal expansion of seawater as it warms.
NOAA Climate.gov



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 08:38 PM
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just the facts.

So, what happened in Cancun in 2010? Was a global carbon trading system set up? Because that's what he was talking about.

That will change immediately if global emission rights are distributed. If this happens, on a per capita basis, then Africa will be the big winner, and huge amounts of money will flow there.


How about something more recent, like Paris?
No? No global carbon trading system?

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