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originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Joshua, if you are really intereseted, take a look at the Homeland Security Website and/or check with the local SART group in your area. I don't suggest you go looking around the internet too deeply, especailly not looking into special travel packages.
I wish this was just fake news, a made up thing, but in this case, truth is much stranger than fiction.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: MacK80
Honestly I am very suprised I didn't find and/or people didn't post dozens of examples...
Just like finding out there are no satanic cults
Two of those found guilty included Carlos Cruz, a popular television chat-show host with 30 years in show business, and Jorge Ritto, a former ambassador once sent home in disgrace from a posting in Germany over allegations that he had been having an improper relationship with a young boy in a park.
Their co-defendants included Carlos Silvino, an orphanage driver who would ferry children to paedophile houses; Joao Ferreira Diniz, a prominent doctor who often deliberately picked out deaf and dumb children; Manuel Abrantes, a former deputy principal at an orphanage; solicitor Hugo Marcal and Gertrude Nunes, the only female defendant who allowed her house to be used by the paedophile ring. The successful convictions, eight years after the paedophile scandal was exposed, is a major victory for Portuguese police, under intense criticism over their handling of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. One of the lead detectives in the Casa Pia case, Paulo Rebelo, also investigated the Madeleine McCann disappearance after the original lead investigator was sacked. Rebelo and his team of forensic investigators – called "the cleaners" because they leave no stones unturned – are said to have played a pivotal role in securing the convictions.
originally posted by: twfau
a reply to: JoshuaCox
I thought my BBC article fit the description. Does the mass child prostitution of Operation Cross Country 2 count?
There are some that have gone to trial, this one in Portugal - the article goes on to describe the efforts to stop the truth coming out:
Two of those found guilty included Carlos Cruz, a popular television chat-show host with 30 years in show business, and Jorge Ritto, a former ambassador once sent home in disgrace from a posting in Germany over allegations that he had been having an improper relationship with a young boy in a park.
Their co-defendants included Carlos Silvino, an orphanage driver who would ferry children to paedophile houses; Joao Ferreira Diniz, a prominent doctor who often deliberately picked out deaf and dumb children; Manuel Abrantes, a former deputy principal at an orphanage; solicitor Hugo Marcal and Gertrude Nunes, the only female defendant who allowed her house to be used by the paedophile ring. The successful convictions, eight years after the paedophile scandal was exposed, is a major victory for Portuguese police, under intense criticism over their handling of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. One of the lead detectives in the Casa Pia case, Paulo Rebelo, also investigated the Madeleine McCann disappearance after the original lead investigator was sacked. Rebelo and his team of forensic investigators – called "the cleaners" because they leave no stones unturned – are said to have played a pivotal role in securing the convictions.
www.independent.co.uk...
originally posted by: twfau
a reply to: JoshuaCox
I thought my BBC article fit the description. Does the mass child prostitution of Operation Cross Country 2 count?
There are some that have gone to trial, this one in Portugal - the article goes on to describe the efforts to stop the truth coming out:
Two of those found guilty included Carlos Cruz, a popular television chat-show host with 30 years in show business, and Jorge Ritto, a former ambassador once sent home in disgrace from a posting in Germany over allegations that he had been having an improper relationship with a young boy in a park.
Their co-defendants included Carlos Silvino, an orphanage driver who would ferry children to paedophile houses; Joao Ferreira Diniz, a prominent doctor who often deliberately picked out deaf and dumb children; Manuel Abrantes, a former deputy principal at an orphanage; solicitor Hugo Marcal and Gertrude Nunes, the only female defendant who allowed her house to be used by the paedophile ring. The successful convictions, eight years after the paedophile scandal was exposed, is a major victory for Portuguese police, under intense criticism over their handling of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. One of the lead detectives in the Casa Pia case, Paulo Rebelo, also investigated the Madeleine McCann disappearance after the original lead investigator was sacked. Rebelo and his team of forensic investigators – called "the cleaners" because they leave no stones unturned – are said to have played a pivotal role in securing the convictions.
www.independent.co.uk...
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
1400 underaged girls raped and abused then pimped out when the pedo gang got bored with them in Rotherham UK over a 16 year period. Authorities were made aware multiple times but allegedly did nothing for fear of being labeled racist
Rotherham Pedo ring
Plenty of verified online links describing what your talking about, a quick google search would have shown you.
I personally find your OP in very poor taste and it almost seems like.... I dont actually have the words, Im trying real hard not to think of you as some kind of pedo apologist or like your saying pedophilia isnt that big a problem buts its not working.
I feel kinda sick just by being a part of this thread
This was are all gang rapes.. not a pedophile ring..
I'm sorry you are unable to discuss intense topics without being emotionally compromised..
I wouldn't doubt something like this happening in a war torn or 3rd world part of the planet.. I should have specified (and might have , but maybe poorly) that I meant in a modern country like the US..
But this far no one has been able to provide one verified example of a real life pizza gate or a child version of an adult prostitution ring...
originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Unfortunately, this is my job. There is plenty of evidence out there for anyone that is truly interested.
I can't draw you a map because we are always in the position of playing catch up, and they are very good at keeping us two steps behind.
I can tell you this. These guys are masters at their craft. I don't know anything about Satanic cults, but there is a darn good reason that they say that Satan's greatest feat was convincing people that he does not exist.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Ok to start let's set the definition for a pedophile ring..
For the point of this discussion , let's define a pedophile ring as a group of people who recruit or purchase children for the purpose of using them for in person sex. Where you have multiple offenders (let's say.. more than 10 people ) with more than ten victims being passed around..
originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
1400 underaged girls raped and abused then pimped out when the pedo gang got bored with them in Rotherham UK over a 16 year period. Authorities were made aware multiple times but allegedly did nothing for fear of being labeled racist
Rotherham Pedo ring
Plenty of verified online links describing what your talking about, a quick google search would have shown you.
I personally find your OP in very poor taste and it almost seems like.... I dont actually have the words, Im trying real hard not to think of you as some kind of pedo apologist or like your saying pedophilia isnt that big a problem buts its not working.
I feel kinda sick just by being a part of this thread
This was are all gang rapes.. not a pedophile ring..
I'm sorry you are unable to discuss intense topics without being emotionally compromised..
I wouldn't doubt something like this happening in a war torn or 3rd world part of the planet.. I should have specified (and might have , but maybe poorly) that I meant in a modern country like the US..
But this far no one has been able to provide one verified example of a real life pizza gate or a child version of an adult prostitution ring...
And Im sorry you cant read linked articles,
This happened in the UK not some 3rd world country, it wasnt gang rapes it was a large group of men who systematically targeted teenage girls and groomed them for sexual purposes.
The fact your still arguing this makes it obvious youve read none of the linked articles which all cite cases of what you were asking for.
Im sure Im missing something because as it stands its hard not to see you as either deluded or complicit in this sort of activity
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: BlueAjah
It happens all the time.
ALL the time, everywhere.
Bucks County Authorities Make Arrest In Fetish-Themed Child Predator Sex Ring
Link is broken..
It says the page was removed..
Was it a pedophile ring, or an internet child porn "ring" or site?
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
1400 underaged girls raped and abused then pimped out when the pedo gang got bored with them in Rotherham UK over a 16 year period. Authorities were made aware multiple times but allegedly did nothing for fear of being labeled racist
Rotherham Pedo ring
Plenty of verified online links describing what your talking about, a quick google search would have shown you.
I personally find your OP in very poor taste and it almost seems like.... I dont actually have the words, Im trying real hard not to think of you as some kind of pedo apologist or like your saying pedophilia isnt that big a problem buts its not working.
I feel kinda sick just by being a part of this thread
This was are all gang rapes.. not a pedophile ring..
I'm sorry you are unable to discuss intense topics without being emotionally compromised..
I wouldn't doubt something like this happening in a war torn or 3rd world part of the planet.. I should have specified (and might have , but maybe poorly) that I meant in a modern country like the US..
But this far no one has been able to provide one verified example of a real life pizza gate or a child version of an adult prostitution ring...
And Im sorry you cant read linked articles,
This happened in the UK not some 3rd world country, it wasnt gang rapes it was a large group of men who systematically targeted teenage girls and groomed them for sexual purposes.
The fact your still arguing this makes it obvious youve read none of the linked articles which all cite cases of what you were asking for.
Im sure Im missing something because as it stands its hard not to see you as either deluded or complicit in this sort of activity
If I get a sec I will reread the article, but I got that it was talking about a section of town with one or more groups of men going around gang raping any women they caught alone.
originally posted by: Barliman
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Ok to start let's set the definition for a pedophile ring..
For the point of this discussion , let's define a pedophile ring as a group of people who recruit or purchase children for the purpose of using them for in person sex. Where you have multiple offenders (let's say.. more than 10 people ) with more than ten victims being passed around..
Joshua, the problem here is that your definition of pedophile ring is not the accepted one:
dictionary.cambridge.org...
Defn: A group of people who take part in illegal sexual activity involving children.
You have been given plenty of examples that meet both the agreed definition and your own.
The passing around of victims usually occurs by passing them between sites.
This is an area where we all need to be very careful as if we encounter say child porn on the internet we are probably at risk of prosecution if we do not report it- one surely would be in Australia.
So definitions count.
The reports I have heard (sorry can't give reference state that 11,000 of Britain's 65,000 prison inmates are in for pedophilia related crimes.
originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
1400 underaged girls raped and abused then pimped out when the pedo gang got bored with them in Rotherham UK over a 16 year period. Authorities were made aware multiple times but allegedly did nothing for fear of being labeled racist
Rotherham Pedo ring
Plenty of verified online links describing what your talking about, a quick google search would have shown you.
I personally find your OP in very poor taste and it almost seems like.... I dont actually have the words, Im trying real hard not to think of you as some kind of pedo apologist or like your saying pedophilia isnt that big a problem buts its not working.
I feel kinda sick just by being a part of this thread
This was are all gang rapes.. not a pedophile ring..
I'm sorry you are unable to discuss intense topics without being emotionally compromised..
I wouldn't doubt something like this happening in a war torn or 3rd world part of the planet.. I should have specified (and might have , but maybe poorly) that I meant in a modern country like the US..
But this far no one has been able to provide one verified example of a real life pizza gate or a child version of an adult prostitution ring...
And Im sorry you cant read linked articles,
This happened in the UK not some 3rd world country, it wasnt gang rapes it was a large group of men who systematically targeted teenage girls and groomed them for sexual purposes.
The fact your still arguing this makes it obvious youve read none of the linked articles which all cite cases of what you were asking for.
Im sure Im missing something because as it stands its hard not to see you as either deluded or complicit in this sort of activity
If I get a sec I will reread the article, but I got that it was talking about a section of town with one or more groups of men going around gang raping any women they caught alone.
Nowhere in the article does it say or even imply anything like that.
You ask a question, people respond with answers and you dont even have the courtesy to check their source before replying telling them their wrong.
Congrats
On one thread you made me sick on 2 completely different and unrelated levels.
Thats a first for me
P.s dont bother responding as I cant be bothered with shills, trolls or idiots and your at least on of the 3
originally posted by: BlueAjah
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: BlueAjah
It happens all the time.
ALL the time, everywhere.
Bucks County Authorities Make Arrest In Fetish-Themed Child Predator Sex Ring
Link is broken..
It says the page was removed..
Was it a pedophile ring, or an internet child porn "ring" or site?
The page is not removed. ATS edited the link, probably due to the words in the link.
I will try putting the link on 3 lines, then you can paste it together, if it lets me do this:
philadelphia.cbslocal.com...
bucks-county-authorities-make-arrest-in-
fetish-themed-child-predator-sex-ring/
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: BlueAjah
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: BlueAjah
It happens all the time.
ALL the time, everywhere.
Bucks County Authorities Make Arrest In Fetish-Themed Child Predator Sex Ring
Link is broken..
It says the page was removed..
Was it a pedophile ring, or an internet child porn "ring" or site?
The page is not removed. ATS edited the link, probably due to the words in the link.
I will try putting the link on 3 lines, then you can paste it together, if it lets me do this:
philadelphia.cbslocal.com...
bucks-county-authorities-make-arrest-in-
fetish-themed-child-predator-sex-ring/
Didn't work just takes you to the sites home page..
Authorities in Bucks County make an arrest in a fetish-themed child predator sex ring they say was going on for the better part of a decade.