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Has there ever been a real pedophile ring???

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posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Joshua, if you are really intereseted, take a look at the Homeland Security Website and/or check with the local SART group in your area. I don't suggest you go looking around the internet too deeply, especailly not looking into special travel packages.

I wish this was just fake news, a made up thing, but in this case, truth is much stranger than fiction.



What case can you site?

Not in a bad way, but accusations that never went anywhere can't really count.

So the best and only evidence has been :

"Some commission said that 100 billion people are presently being human trafficked, so that must mean that there are pedo rings everywhere.."

But zero cases were some one (particularly an elite) was running a pizzagate or child rape version of a prostitution, dog fighting, money laundering or drug ring..

There are plenty of sickos doing similar stuff to children, but an actual ring??




posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

No, it's basically a distraction to not elect Hillary Clinton at it's core purpose.

It's new purpose is to remain relevant long enough to not perceive to have originally had this previous purpose.

It's lose/win for true liberals though, who doesn't want to save children while the GOP is now obsessed with this?



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: MacK80

Honestly I am very suprised I didn't find and/or people didn't post dozens of examples...

Just like finding out there are no satanic cults



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: MacK80

Honestly I am very suprised I didn't find and/or people didn't post dozens of examples...

Just like finding out there are no satanic cults


Did you miss my post on the previous page? All the evidence you need.

ETA: and you also don't believe in satanic cults? Well that's a whole different topic in and of itself..
edit on 28-3-2017 by knowledgehunter0986 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox
Unfortunately, this is my job. There is plenty of evidence out there for anyone that is truly interested.

I can't draw you a map because we are always in the position of playing catch up, and they are very good at keeping us two steps behind.

I can tell you this. These guys are masters at their craft. I don't know anything about Satanic cults, but there is a darn good reason that they say that Satan's greatest feat was convincing people that he does not exist.



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

I thought my BBC article fit the description. Does the mass child prostitution of Operation Cross Country 2 count?

There are some that have gone to trial, this one in Portugal - the article goes on to describe the efforts to stop the truth coming out:


Two of those found guilty included Carlos Cruz, a popular television chat-show host with 30 years in show business, and Jorge Ritto, a former ambassador once sent home in disgrace from a posting in Germany over allegations that he had been having an improper relationship with a young boy in a park.

Their co-defendants included Carlos Silvino, an orphanage driver who would ferry children to paedophile houses; Joao Ferreira Diniz, a prominent doctor who often deliberately picked out deaf and dumb children; Manuel Abrantes, a former deputy principal at an orphanage; solicitor Hugo Marcal and Gertrude Nunes, the only female defendant who allowed her house to be used by the paedophile ring. The successful convictions, eight years after the paedophile scandal was exposed, is a major victory for Portuguese police, under intense criticism over their handling of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. One of the lead detectives in the Casa Pia case, Paulo Rebelo, also investigated the Madeleine McCann disappearance after the original lead investigator was sacked. Rebelo and his team of forensic investigators – called "the cleaners" because they leave no stones unturned – are said to have played a pivotal role in securing the convictions.


www.independent.co.uk...



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: twfau
a reply to: JoshuaCox

I thought my BBC article fit the description. Does the mass child prostitution of Operation Cross Country 2 count?

There are some that have gone to trial, this one in Portugal - the article goes on to describe the efforts to stop the truth coming out:


Two of those found guilty included Carlos Cruz, a popular television chat-show host with 30 years in show business, and Jorge Ritto, a former ambassador once sent home in disgrace from a posting in Germany over allegations that he had been having an improper relationship with a young boy in a park.

Their co-defendants included Carlos Silvino, an orphanage driver who would ferry children to paedophile houses; Joao Ferreira Diniz, a prominent doctor who often deliberately picked out deaf and dumb children; Manuel Abrantes, a former deputy principal at an orphanage; solicitor Hugo Marcal and Gertrude Nunes, the only female defendant who allowed her house to be used by the paedophile ring. The successful convictions, eight years after the paedophile scandal was exposed, is a major victory for Portuguese police, under intense criticism over their handling of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. One of the lead detectives in the Casa Pia case, Paulo Rebelo, also investigated the Madeleine McCann disappearance after the original lead investigator was sacked. Rebelo and his team of forensic investigators – called "the cleaners" because they leave no stones unturned – are said to have played a pivotal role in securing the convictions.


www.independent.co.uk...




That looks like it counts to me.. is it a real news site, or linking to one.



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 05:53 PM
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originally posted by: twfau
a reply to: JoshuaCox

I thought my BBC article fit the description. Does the mass child prostitution of Operation Cross Country 2 count?

There are some that have gone to trial, this one in Portugal - the article goes on to describe the efforts to stop the truth coming out:


Two of those found guilty included Carlos Cruz, a popular television chat-show host with 30 years in show business, and Jorge Ritto, a former ambassador once sent home in disgrace from a posting in Germany over allegations that he had been having an improper relationship with a young boy in a park.

Their co-defendants included Carlos Silvino, an orphanage driver who would ferry children to paedophile houses; Joao Ferreira Diniz, a prominent doctor who often deliberately picked out deaf and dumb children; Manuel Abrantes, a former deputy principal at an orphanage; solicitor Hugo Marcal and Gertrude Nunes, the only female defendant who allowed her house to be used by the paedophile ring. The successful convictions, eight years after the paedophile scandal was exposed, is a major victory for Portuguese police, under intense criticism over their handling of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. One of the lead detectives in the Casa Pia case, Paulo Rebelo, also investigated the Madeleine McCann disappearance after the original lead investigator was sacked. Rebelo and his team of forensic investigators – called "the cleaners" because they leave no stones unturned – are said to have played a pivotal role in securing the convictions.


www.independent.co.uk...




Read it and that is actually exactly what I'm taking about.

I do wonder if portagoul is as modern an inferstructure as in the us/U.K., or if it was as corrupt as say a Taiwan has the reputation for being..

But with that disclaimer that absolutely counts.



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 06:43 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
1400 underaged girls raped and abused then pimped out when the pedo gang got bored with them in Rotherham UK over a 16 year period. Authorities were made aware multiple times but allegedly did nothing for fear of being labeled racist

Rotherham Pedo ring

Plenty of verified online links describing what your talking about, a quick google search would have shown you.

I personally find your OP in very poor taste and it almost seems like.... I dont actually have the words, Im trying real hard not to think of you as some kind of pedo apologist or like your saying pedophilia isnt that big a problem buts its not working.

I feel kinda sick just by being a part of this thread



This was are all gang rapes.. not a pedophile ring..

I'm sorry you are unable to discuss intense topics without being emotionally compromised..

I wouldn't doubt something like this happening in a war torn or 3rd world part of the planet.. I should have specified (and might have , but maybe poorly) that I meant in a modern country like the US..

But this far no one has been able to provide one verified example of a real life pizza gate or a child version of an adult prostitution ring...


And Im sorry you cant read linked articles,
This happened in the UK not some 3rd world country, it wasnt gang rapes it was a large group of men who systematically targeted teenage girls and groomed them for sexual purposes.

The fact your still arguing this makes it obvious youve read none of the linked articles which all cite cases of what you were asking for.

Im sure Im missing something because as it stands its hard not to see you as either deluded or complicit in this sort of activity



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 08:02 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

HEres one: www.foxnews.com...

HE HAGUE, Netherlands -- Police said Wednesday they have smashed a huge international pedophile ring, rescuing 230 children from abuse and arresting 184 suspects -- including teachers and police officers.

The three-year investigation code named Operation Rescue uncovered 670 suspects and identified and safeguarded children in more than 30 countries by arresting people accused of abusing them, said Rob Wainwright, director of the European Union police agency Europol.
This one involves 20 adults:
www.telegraph.co.uk...

another---
www.telegraph.co.uk...
and at www.bbc.com... whih gives a date of 16 March 2011

An Internet pedophile ring with up to 70,000 members — thought to be the world's largest —has been uncovered by police, a security official said Wednesday.

The European police agency Europol said in a statement that "Operation Rescue" had identified 670 suspects and that 230 abused children in 30 countries had been taken to safety. More children are expected to be found, Europol said.

Heres another from 2014:
edition.cnn.com...

This one was asurprise as it is most unusual to get a British policeman to make this kind of comment:
www.dailymail.co.uk...
though no "hard " evidence of a ring.

So there are a few to keep you going.



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Unfortunately, this is my job. There is plenty of evidence out there for anyone that is truly interested.

I can't draw you a map because we are always in the position of playing catch up, and they are very good at keeping us two steps behind.

I can tell you this. These guys are masters at their craft. I don't know anything about Satanic cults, but there is a darn good reason that they say that Satan's greatest feat was convincing people that he does not exist.


Amen



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 08:18 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Ok to start let's set the definition for a pedophile ring..


For the point of this discussion , let's define a pedophile ring as a group of people who recruit or purchase children for the purpose of using them for in person sex. Where you have multiple offenders (let's say.. more than 10 people ) with more than ten victims being passed around..



Joshua, the problem here is that your definition of pedophile ring is not the accepted one:
dictionary.cambridge.org...
Defn: A group of people who take part in illegal sexual activity involving children.

You have been given plenty of examples that meet both the agreed definition and your own.
The passing around of victims usually occurs by passing them between sites.

This is an area where we all need to be very careful as if we encounter say child porn on the internet we are probably at risk of prosecution if we do not report it- one surely would be in Australia.
So definitions count.

The reports I have heard (sorry can't give reference state that 11,000 of Britain's 65,000 prison inmates are in for pedophilia related crimes.



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 09:15 PM
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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
1400 underaged girls raped and abused then pimped out when the pedo gang got bored with them in Rotherham UK over a 16 year period. Authorities were made aware multiple times but allegedly did nothing for fear of being labeled racist

Rotherham Pedo ring

Plenty of verified online links describing what your talking about, a quick google search would have shown you.

I personally find your OP in very poor taste and it almost seems like.... I dont actually have the words, Im trying real hard not to think of you as some kind of pedo apologist or like your saying pedophilia isnt that big a problem buts its not working.

I feel kinda sick just by being a part of this thread



This was are all gang rapes.. not a pedophile ring..

I'm sorry you are unable to discuss intense topics without being emotionally compromised..

I wouldn't doubt something like this happening in a war torn or 3rd world part of the planet.. I should have specified (and might have , but maybe poorly) that I meant in a modern country like the US..

But this far no one has been able to provide one verified example of a real life pizza gate or a child version of an adult prostitution ring...


And Im sorry you cant read linked articles,
This happened in the UK not some 3rd world country, it wasnt gang rapes it was a large group of men who systematically targeted teenage girls and groomed them for sexual purposes.

The fact your still arguing this makes it obvious youve read none of the linked articles which all cite cases of what you were asking for.

Im sure Im missing something because as it stands its hard not to see you as either deluded or complicit in this sort of activity



If I get a sec I will reread the article, but I got that it was talking about a section of town with one or more groups of men going around gang raping any women they caught alone.



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: BlueAjah
It happens all the time.
ALL the time, everywhere.

Bucks County Authorities Make Arrest In Fetish-Themed Child Predator Sex Ring


Link is broken..

It says the page was removed..

Was it a pedophile ring, or an internet child porn "ring" or site?



The page is not removed. ATS edited the link, probably due to the words in the link.
I will try putting the link on 3 lines, then you can paste it together, if it lets me do this:
philadelphia.cbslocal.com...
bucks-county-authorities-make-arrest-in-
fetish-themed-child-predator-sex-ring/



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
1400 underaged girls raped and abused then pimped out when the pedo gang got bored with them in Rotherham UK over a 16 year period. Authorities were made aware multiple times but allegedly did nothing for fear of being labeled racist

Rotherham Pedo ring

Plenty of verified online links describing what your talking about, a quick google search would have shown you.

I personally find your OP in very poor taste and it almost seems like.... I dont actually have the words, Im trying real hard not to think of you as some kind of pedo apologist or like your saying pedophilia isnt that big a problem buts its not working.

I feel kinda sick just by being a part of this thread



This was are all gang rapes.. not a pedophile ring..

I'm sorry you are unable to discuss intense topics without being emotionally compromised..

I wouldn't doubt something like this happening in a war torn or 3rd world part of the planet.. I should have specified (and might have , but maybe poorly) that I meant in a modern country like the US..

But this far no one has been able to provide one verified example of a real life pizza gate or a child version of an adult prostitution ring...


And Im sorry you cant read linked articles,
This happened in the UK not some 3rd world country, it wasnt gang rapes it was a large group of men who systematically targeted teenage girls and groomed them for sexual purposes.

The fact your still arguing this makes it obvious youve read none of the linked articles which all cite cases of what you were asking for.

Im sure Im missing something because as it stands its hard not to see you as either deluded or complicit in this sort of activity



If I get a sec I will reread the article, but I got that it was talking about a section of town with one or more groups of men going around gang raping any women they caught alone.


Nowhere in the article does it say or even imply anything like that.

You ask a question, people respond with answers and you dont even have the courtesy to check their source before replying telling them their wrong.

Congrats
On one thread you made me sick on 2 completely different and unrelated levels.
Thats a first for me

P.s dont bother responding as I cant be bothered with shills, trolls or idiots and your at least on of the 3



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: Barliman

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Ok to start let's set the definition for a pedophile ring..


For the point of this discussion , let's define a pedophile ring as a group of people who recruit or purchase children for the purpose of using them for in person sex. Where you have multiple offenders (let's say.. more than 10 people ) with more than ten victims being passed around..



Joshua, the problem here is that your definition of pedophile ring is not the accepted one:
dictionary.cambridge.org...
Defn: A group of people who take part in illegal sexual activity involving children.

You have been given plenty of examples that meet both the agreed definition and your own.
The passing around of victims usually occurs by passing them between sites.

This is an area where we all need to be very careful as if we encounter say child porn on the internet we are probably at risk of prosecution if we do not report it- one surely would be in Australia.
So definitions count.

The reports I have heard (sorry can't give reference state that 11,000 of Britain's 65,000 prison inmates are in for pedophilia related crimes.


That maybe the dictionary definition but when we refer to a prostitution ring , we are not talking about one pimp with two hookers..

When we are referring to a dog fighting ring, we are not referring to one guy who brings a couple friends over to watch his personal dogs fight..

A guy who picks up a little extra pot for his bday when he gets some, would not be considered a drug ring.


Don't get me wrong..

A single instance of child molestation isn't really any better than if pizza gate were actually real, but let's make sure we are actually taking about the same thing rather than using "pedophile ring" as a click bait stand in for every sexual crime commited on a child.



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
1400 underaged girls raped and abused then pimped out when the pedo gang got bored with them in Rotherham UK over a 16 year period. Authorities were made aware multiple times but allegedly did nothing for fear of being labeled racist

Rotherham Pedo ring

Plenty of verified online links describing what your talking about, a quick google search would have shown you.

I personally find your OP in very poor taste and it almost seems like.... I dont actually have the words, Im trying real hard not to think of you as some kind of pedo apologist or like your saying pedophilia isnt that big a problem buts its not working.

I feel kinda sick just by being a part of this thread



This was are all gang rapes.. not a pedophile ring..

I'm sorry you are unable to discuss intense topics without being emotionally compromised..

I wouldn't doubt something like this happening in a war torn or 3rd world part of the planet.. I should have specified (and might have , but maybe poorly) that I meant in a modern country like the US..

But this far no one has been able to provide one verified example of a real life pizza gate or a child version of an adult prostitution ring...


And Im sorry you cant read linked articles,
This happened in the UK not some 3rd world country, it wasnt gang rapes it was a large group of men who systematically targeted teenage girls and groomed them for sexual purposes.

The fact your still arguing this makes it obvious youve read none of the linked articles which all cite cases of what you were asking for.

Im sure Im missing something because as it stands its hard not to see you as either deluded or complicit in this sort of activity



If I get a sec I will reread the article, but I got that it was talking about a section of town with one or more groups of men going around gang raping any women they caught alone.


Nowhere in the article does it say or even imply anything like that.

You ask a question, people respond with answers and you dont even have the courtesy to check their source before replying telling them their wrong.

Congrats
On one thread you made me sick on 2 completely different and unrelated levels.
Thats a first for me

P.s dont bother responding as I cant be bothered with shills, trolls or idiots and your at least on of the 3


With the exception of the story from Portugal story, none of them have been pedophile rings..especially nothing that even remotely compared to a pizzagates allegations..



It's been a fast moving thread I could very well have missed one or replied to the wrong one when replying to yours.

That said I couldn't possibly care less what some poster on a conspiracy site, whom I will never meet thinks of me..

You don't know me, nor do you care about me personally where you would have my best interest at heart..

We don't sleep together, I don't care what you think about me.

At least I am actually willing to put my own name to my posts, rather than hiding behind a gamer tag as I accuse people I don't even know of being child rapists...



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 10:15 PM
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originally posted by: BlueAjah

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: BlueAjah
It happens all the time.
ALL the time, everywhere.

Bucks County Authorities Make Arrest In Fetish-Themed Child Predator Sex Ring


Link is broken..

It says the page was removed..

Was it a pedophile ring, or an internet child porn "ring" or site?



The page is not removed. ATS edited the link, probably due to the words in the link.
I will try putting the link on 3 lines, then you can paste it together, if it lets me do this:
philadelphia.cbslocal.com...
bucks-county-authorities-make-arrest-in-
fetish-themed-child-predator-sex-ring/



Didn't work just takes you to the sites home page..



posted on Mar, 29 2017 @ 04:06 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: BlueAjah

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: BlueAjah
It happens all the time.
ALL the time, everywhere.

Bucks County Authorities Make Arrest In Fetish-Themed Child Predator Sex Ring


Link is broken..

It says the page was removed..

Was it a pedophile ring, or an internet child porn "ring" or site?



The page is not removed. ATS edited the link, probably due to the words in the link.
I will try putting the link on 3 lines, then you can paste it together, if it lets me do this:
philadelphia.cbslocal.com...
bucks-county-authorities-make-arrest-in-
fetish-themed-child-predator-sex-ring/



Didn't work just takes you to the sites home page..

You really don't want to see the proof then.
I took the 5 seconds and cpopy and pasted what was in blueajah's post and did a search.
The article is the first hit, and here is the first paragraph:

Authorities in Bucks County make an arrest in a fetish-themed child predator sex ring they say was going on for the better part of a decade.

I read 'child predator ring'.
link
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posted on Mar, 29 2017 @ 09:13 AM
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Seems to me this Joshua guy is just trolling.... plenty of links to pedophile " rings " has been provided that you are just dismissing so I'm calling you a troll...

Sick topic to troll on too might I add




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