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Has there ever been a real pedophile ring???

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posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 07:48 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

I flagged and starred your post, as I read the whole thing, and etiquette calls for such acknolwledgement.

If you are naive enough to believe people don't organize into networks and use their 'friendships' as a cover to exploit kids, only to dump them into 'the juvenile courts system' for access to a different set of abusets when they try to get help, you are indeed fortunate.

Whether you realize it or not, unless you lived in a cave, and never attended school or church, you know someone who has been impacted by this.

Why would you think pedophiles would be any different than any other organized criminals? Criminal rings exist. They keep their activities under the radar for a reason.

Your definition of 'ring' seems to imply that unless more than 10 child abusers are all in the same location at the same time performing criminal acts, it doesn't 'count'.

Turnabout is fair play.... What makes you think this?



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posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 07:52 AM
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1400 underaged girls raped and abused then pimped out when the pedo gang got bored with them in Rotherham UK over a 16 year period. Authorities were made aware multiple times but allegedly did nothing for fear of being labeled racist

Rotherham Pedo ring

Plenty of verified online links describing what your talking about, a quick google search would have shown you.

I personally find your OP in very poor taste and it almost seems like.... I dont actually have the words, Im trying real hard not to think of you as some kind of pedo apologist or like your saying pedophilia isnt that big a problem buts its not working.

I feel kinda sick just by being a part of this thread



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 08:05 AM
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Marc Dutroux (Belgian pedo ring all the way to the top)

Yes, almost every Belgian over 25 years of age remembers this case, as it resulted in this.

There's plenty of material about this case (also linked to PG), but the scale of this scandal (and cover-up) was unseen for the Belgian people, which is why the White March was organised. Several of our highest national politicians were named, aswell as various other big international players. Even royalty was alledged to be a large part, as the majority of "sex-parties" were held at castles and other "medieval" (read: way beyond the paygrade of normal people) sites.

The UK has a similar story, as do most other European countries.

You have to be pretty naive to not see how the upper-class of almost every Western nation is involved in this.



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 08:06 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Ok to start let's set the definition for a pedophile ring..


For the point of this discussion , let's define a pedophile ring as a group of people who recruit or purchase children for the purpose of using them for in person sex. Where you have multiple offenders (let's say.. more than 10 people ) with more than ten victims being passed around..

I think that is what most lay people think of when they hear pedophile ring..


I don't think it is fair to call some single monster who pimps out his kid to a couple people a pedophile ring..

I don't think it is fair to call a child pornography web site a pedophile ring ..

I don't think it is fair to call some bill Cosby type offender who has molested a dozens children independently a pedophile ring either.


So has what I think most people would consider an actually a pedo ring ever actually happened???

If so how many times in modern recorded history has one been confirmed ???

There has been ALOT of pizzagate type claims lately with millions of people assuming that there are dozens of secret pedo rings involving big chunks of Hollywood celebrities, politicians and athletes..


But just now when I googled pedophile rings , no "real ones" popped up...

Every example of a headline selling a "massive pedo ring busted" was really a child porn site and/or "to catch a predator " type internet set ups...

I didn't find any examples of what we all think of when we hear "pedophile ring.."


It makes me wonder if this isn't just a repeat of the "satanic cult" scare of the 80s and the "poisoned Halloween candy" myth that has never actually happened...

Anyone know of any events that really do fit the pedophile ring definition???


Here's one massive child sex ring bust from February this year....474 arrested....thats quite a large ring of human traffickers and exploiters.

Link

The fact that many task forces in large cities have human trafficking divisions should tell you that these rings are real.



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 08:06 AM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

It's an interesting question.

Sure it's far cupped, but if ATS isn't about difficult questions then what's the point.

If you're not uncomfortable then you're not growing.

Edit just to clarify.... He's not an apologist.
edit on 28-3-2017 by Krahzeef_Ukhar because: editing is fun



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 08:11 AM
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All I know is Hillary was in charge of the pedophile ring. That's what the real news told me.



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

That's why people are angry...the "rings" you talk about aren't being taken down. It's fair to ask why evidence is difficult to find.

I'm telling you that's why it's kind of a thing now because people want justice.

I'm not here to argue my position because this forum doesn't want that to take place here.

I wouldn't get so caught up with the technical terms.

There's enough evidence for me but it's not enough for everyone...






posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 08:29 AM
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Ever hear of Penn State?
Joe Paterno died and saved himself the grief of being required to testify.
The whole football program suffered and paid the price for the acts committed by those leading the program.
They covered up for each other in a child molestation case.

The Catholic Church knew what was going on and covered it up, plus they paid victims off and moved serial pedophile priests from one parish to another, facilitating what they knew was going to happen again.



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: JoshuaCox

How Thatcher’s Government Covered Up a VIP Pedophile Ring

Read!



That's one pedophile ...

Not a ring...



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Yes, this piece of 5hit, who we used to call Screech for his likeness to Screech from 'Saved by the Bell' was part of Scotland's biggest pedophile ring. I was the Dundee rock/metal scene D.J for a number of years and he was one of my regular punters, to say I was shocked when I saw his mug staring back at me from the front of the newspapers is a vast understatement...



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: JoshuaCox

They were all in it together, sometimes sequestering little boys in the cabins during the day one on one, sometimes having 'parties', where they all participated.

Oh it was a ring alright, went on for decades. I know, I was victimized there for two summers.



They didn't kidnap nor purchase the boys..

They had no inferstructure..

They were not selling the kids..

If 2 pedophiles work at a daycare together. That's not a ring...


It is definately nothing resembling an political/celeb elite pedo ring killing people if they snitch ran by a hillary clinton or trump...



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: JoshuaCox

They were all in it together, sometimes sequestering little boys in the cabins during the day one on one, sometimes having 'parties', where they all participated.

Oh it was a ring alright, went on for decades. I know, I was victimized there for two summers.



They didn't kidnap nor purchase the boys..

They had no inferstructure..

They were not selling the kids..

If 2 pedophiles work at a daycare together. That's not a ring...


It is definately nothing resembling an political/celeb elite pedo ring killing people if they snitch ran by a hillary clinton or trump...


Why are you completely ignoring evidence you've been given? The case in Belgium is proven. Lots of people involved.


The most important information on the case comes from a victim of Dutroux. Regina Louf was the first to come forward, and was candid about the abuse she received at the hands of Belgiums child abuse networks. In 1996, she named and described in great detail, to a specially assembled police team, the people and places involved in the paedophile ring. Senior judges, one of the country’s most powerful politicians – now dead – and a very influential banker were included. 17, BBC. The BBC article [17] says, “The sessions not only involved sex, they included sadism, torture and murder; and again, she described in detail, the place, the victims and how they were killed.” She corroborated that one of Dutrouxs associates, Jean-Michel Nihoul, was instrumental in the abuse parties. “At these parties Nihoul was a sort of party beast while Dutroux was more on the side.” Nihoul had significant connections among Belgian political and financial elite. He confessed to organizing an orgy at a Belgian chateau attended by government officials 18, TELEGRAPH UK. It emerged that Dutroux and Nihoul were part of a long distance child trafficking ring that imported children from Slovakia, BBC.

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posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 10:13 AM
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originally posted by: CantStandIt
a reply to: JoshuaCox

I flagged and starred your post, as I read the whole thing, and etiquette calls for such acknolwledgement.

If you are naive enough to believe people don't organize into networks and use their 'friendships' as a cover to exploit kids, only to dump them into 'the juvenile courts system' for access to a different set of abusets when they try to get help, you are indeed fortunate.

Whether you realize it or not, unless you lived in a cave, and never attended school or church, you know someone who has been impacted by this.

Why would you think pedophiles would be any different than any other organized criminals? Criminal rings exist. They keep their activities under the radar for a reason.

Your definition of 'ring' seems to imply that unless more than 10 child abusers are all in the same location at the same time performing criminal acts, it doesn't 'count'.

Turnabout is fair play.... What makes you think this?



The over ten is unnessessary to establish a ring, prob shouldn't have added that.

But when we think of a pizzagate type conspiracy, we are assuming there are way more than ten people working it and way more than 10 children being passed around..

That is where I'm commung from..

I'm trying to establish if there ever has been a real life pizzagate, as it is sold.

And as of yet no one has found a real life case like that..

Everyone knows there are pedophiles..

Everyone can easily see how a couple could end up working the same place with kids and help watch out for each other..

Everyone knows the church was covering up for pedos , though I doubt the church was a encouraging it for profit...more founding out afterward and shipping the monster around.

But is there groups of the planets most famous and powerful people running long standing pedo rings???



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Yes, this piece of 5hit, who we used to call Screech for his likeness to Screech from 'Saved by the Bell' was part of Scotland's biggest pedophile ring. I was the Dundee rock/metal scene D.J for a number of years and he was one of my regular punters, to say I was shocked when I saw his mug staring back at me from the front of the newspapers is a vast understatement...


That is a child porn ring..

These monsters were molesting their own children or the neighbors and posting the pictures..

Not passing the kids around in real life, as you would have in any real life pizza gate... or a child form of a prostitution ring.



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 10:23 AM
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a reply to: FauxMulder

That seems like it prob counts..

Unless chic is making it up of course.. but assuming it was confirmed that sounds kinda like a pizzagate.

I still think we would need a few examples for it to be more than an isolated incident.

I'm gonna look into it in a sec.



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
Ever hear of Penn State?
Joe Paterno died and saved himself the grief of being required to testify.
The whole football program suffered and paid the price for the acts committed by those leading the program.
They covered up for each other in a child molestation case.

The Catholic Church knew what was going on and covered it up, plus they paid victims off and moved serial pedophile priests from one parish to another, facilitating what they knew was going to happen again.



Sandusky was a bill Cosby type rapist, not a pedo ring.

He was one celeb who used his celebrity to be in situations alone with children..

Not a group of pedophiles passing around kidnapped children , usually for money i.e. Pizza gate.



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 10:40 AM
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originally posted by: Hecate666
These are a couple big ones:
theukdatabase.com...

www.independent.co.uk...

Apparently the biggest one ever:
www.nbcnews.com...



Why are you asking?
There are many more, globally, but you can't just google them, because guess what? They don't want to caught.
You can only google those they have caught and for each one, there are probably 3 more that are practicing right now.
Let alone those untouchables that are involved, which will never be found out. Only their minions are arrested, whilst the big fish move on. A lot of them are judges or police, famous or doctors etc and they blackmail each other. Nobody will blabb and the judges keep fellow paedos out of jail.

I don't want to post more links but put this into google and you'll see:



lenient sentence for pedophiles



I DId google it and all I saw was internet child porn rings, but the headline called it a pedophile ring..


Both of your links fit that bill..

One is a group of guys passing around 1 girl they had access to.. aka not a ring..

The second one is talking about a child porn ring..

Aka nothing even resembling a pizza gate type pedo ring..
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posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Yes, human trafficking, involving both adults and children, is a very real and indeed international horror.

Human Trafficking Hotline

heatwatch.org



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

So you don't read at all?


More than 30 years later, an inquiry into allegations of child sex abuse rings, murder, and cover-ups has been launched by the British government after Scotland Yard detectives said they believed statements by victims who claimed they were systematically abused as young boys at sex abuse parties attended by judges, politicians, intelligence officers, and staff at the royal palaces.

How Thatcher’s Government Covered Up a VIP Pedophile Ring



posted on Mar, 28 2017 @ 10:51 AM
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originally posted by: [post=22068043]JoshuaCox[/post
That is a child porn ring..

These monsters were molesting their own children or the neighbors and posting the pictures..

Not passing the kids around in real life, as you would have in any real life pizza gate... or a child form of a prostitution ring.


Only because the ring was busted. They had a few victims lined up, one of their girlfriend's kids and a couple of kids in Edinburgh too. There were more details in the papers at the time it happened but can't seem to find them now. They were only days away from it happening when the lot were lifted.




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