Nunes Says Source is Executive Branch?

originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: The GUT

The dems are getting nervous, IMO.

Here's Trey Gowdy's take. I'm starting to like this guy more and more.

Yeah, valid points as far as I can see. I looked for that one earlier and couldn't find it. Thanks.

originally posted by: angeldoll
Testing to see if I'm invisible.
Testing.
Testing.

Your presence is confirmed by NSA frequency scan.

ID confirmed by "Incidental Surveillance" and standard unmasking techniques.

INCIDENTAL COLLECTION complete.

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: digital01anarchy

What? Jeff Sessions recused himself because he either lied or mislead Congress during his Confirmation Hearings.
Remember?

And the Dems aren't asking to be the only ones doing the investigation. They are asking for an Independent Investigation.
Of course, I don't trust anybody anymore, and would recommend Scotland Yard do it. Or the Canadians. Or the Australians. Anybody who is not connected to Washington politics.

Lol scotland yard or canadians wtf these same people would lie just to virtue signal they are also part of the problem! Remember that the intelligence was distributed among foriegn intelligence agencies so any country that was among those agencies couldn't be considered as a 3rd party! Sorry i dont trust a country like Germany or the British to not be completely bias and canada lol is possibility the worst idea i have ever heard! Sorry but your ideas are just bad. I see why dems want this because it going in their favor

a reply to: digital01anarchy

I see why dems want this because it going in their favor

Maybe. I'm still waiting for the investigation. We have no relevant information, do we? About Russia and Collusion? Too tangential. Keystone cops could do a better job staying focused.

eta: I was only kidding about Scotland Yard, et.al, but on second thought..... the idea is starting to grow on me.

a reply to: Phage


A couple of items from the article:

"The Congress has not been given this information, these documents, and that's the problem," Nunes said. "There was no way I could view that because they couldn't get it to the House Intelligence Committee."

Why? Shouldn't the IC have access to these papers?

When the United States spies on the conversations of people overseas, the law requires it obfuscate the identities of anyone from the US who happens to be involved in the conversation.
Some within the intelligence and law enforcement communities may "unmask" the US person, but Nunes said he was worried about how and why Trump and members of his transition team could have been unmasked following legal surveillance collection.
Nunes said his committee had requested "appropriate intelligence agencies" provide it with the names of every US person unmasked going back for months. He anticipated the National Security Agency providing the information this week.

If Trumps team were unmasked (names being shown, and not black bared) on this report then who's names were still covered up and why?

At this point it looks like only Flynn was truly hiding his foreign ties, but this still doesn't explain the strange info leak the White House is having.

As to Phage's point of "Administration". There are still some people that have been hired during the prior Administration that are still working around the White house. These are people that do the day to day up keep and food prep for the White House. Anyone of which could leak info to the media or "others".

I've stated in another thread that the Oval Office itself could have been compromised by the previous Administration, and that the leaks could be coming from that. Let's not forget the Last Presidents actions during and after his last week in office. (Money being sent to Palestine, setting up "Come and Go" house for anti-Trumpers)

SIDE NOTE

Also what's with all the idiots jumping/trying to jump the White House fence lately?

a reply to: Boadicea

I'll give it a shot...speculation, that is, since that seems to the theme of this thread. (I looked but couldn't find any "Breaking News" in it so am wondering why it hasn't been moved to some more appropriate forum.)

My theory is that Trump had the Montgomery documents or at least knew what was in them before he made the tweet. He likely had even more info from other sources as well. Montgomery's documents say, if memory serves me, that the surveillance of Trump, his family and many of his business associates was begun under the Bush administration. I believe they are claiming to have hundreds of pages of communications and financial info from this surveillance.
Bush leaves office, Obama takes over, surveillance of Trump continues. Did he order it? No. Did he know about it? DUH!

I am still idealistic enough to believe that there are a lot of good people working in our intelligence community, people that want to see our country get back on the track that the founders headed us down. Whistle-blowers. We know how much Mr. Obama loved whistle-blowers---he prosecuted a whole mess of them. He changed the rules and prosecuted even more. Got his message across clearly I think.

If Trump really does want to drain the swamp he'll need whistle-blowers. I think they have and will come forward. It seems to me they are making very sure that the ducks are in line. That the info all matches up and is legit. With hundreds of pages of docs, that takes time.

What has the Republicans tying themselves in knots is the fact that Bush started it. Just like some other fiascos started by Bush that exploded on Obama's watch. They would love to expose the Dems but by doing so they must show their own dirt as well. That's why there's so damn much "stuff" under the rug today. That is also why we need to demand to see the docs. At present it just seems that they keep throwing out new stuff right and left---from collusion---oh look, a bunny----to "unmasking"----or leaking----like they've all got one of those disruptive disorders.

That Executive Order may play quite the role as this drama unfolds. I have hope that since Trump is now aware of the pervasive nature of surveillance and understands its misuse, his views on that subject might change. I heard him argue for more surveillance in one of his campaign speeches. It would seem to me that the "leaks" that followed his inauguration could have easily been traced if there were substantially fewer people with the authority to access the raw data. Allowing 16 other agencies the ability to access the raw data puts the suspect pool into the atmosphere.

It is interesting to me that many are calling forth "Watergate" on these revelations. Interesting because in Nixon's case he was trying to cover up his spying on the political opposition while in this case the president is trying to expose the spying and Congresscritters are ....confused and quite possibly frightened. Wiretapping judges? How long has that been going on?

We need more whistle-blowers and Trump needs to get over his disagreements with Snowden and figure out that they are part of his stated goal---draining the swamp. Congress might be able to skim some of the scum off the top from time to time but to get all the slimy stuff he's going to need people to tell what they know and can prove.

They (the Intelligence Community) know more about the Donald than any candidate for president ever. They've investigated him since he got his first casino license. If there was anything in that information that would have brought forth an indictment for anything doncha know that Lynch would have been on it like butter on peas?

It would appear that the dirty Repubs fear the Donald as much as the dirty Dems because they have no dirt with which to blackmail him. They have no power over him by threatening him politically because he won without them. I hope their fears are well-founded and his promise to drain the swamp was sincere. I sincerely hope to hear of him saying, "You're fired." many times in the coming months.

a reply to: Phage

Which is beyond the pale. What's his hold up? (today)
I heard someone mention he gained access to a SCIF (because I've been unceremoniously corrected) on Whitehouse grounds during the press conference this afternoon.
That's one of those super secure pods for secret info transfer. I'd heard of tents like this. ( Okay it was on Madam Secretary sue me. Lol) but these pods are like Sherman tanks for secure data transfer and blocking prying ears.
That could be where he gained access to their governmental internet and this ahem intel. Or had it handed to him with instructions on how to release it.

a reply to: xuenchen

I was just thinking, the guys at No Such Agency are reading this thread as we post, you know they are getting a kick out of it.

Buck

a reply to: diggindirt

I think diggindirt just called, "Bingo!" That would make a great thread imo.

I detested Bush for what he was/is. I came to detest Obama for the same reason. Trump is the wildcard against the stacked hand of the two-party sold-out swamp.

If we could put the partisanship aside for a minute the swamp would get drained. Can you imagine our ROAR if we got together on this?

a reply to: flatbush71

I was just thinking, the guys at No Such Agency are reading this thread as we post, you know they are getting a kick out of it.

i've wonder if there was a way to get several million people to use key words over and over again, bet that would blow their fricking minds.

Where do we stand on this? Have any documents been provided to any entity yet, as proof?

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

Huh? There is only one White House. With one administration in it.

The Obama Administration ....Duh !

Phage is stretching himself really thin recently. He's into the UFO, Science, Politics, Insurance, and Big Foot threads heavily and concurrently.

yeah, none of this makes any sense. Its like we are all being led along a circus show.

originally posted by: carewemust
Where do we stand on this? Have any documents been provided to any entity yet, as proof?

Closed door meeting postponed.

Scheduling short notice problems.

Classified data lockout.

Access denied.

originally posted by: flatbush71
a reply to: xuenchen

I was just thinking, the guys at No Such Agency are reading this thread as we post, you know they are getting a kick out of it.

Buck

(deep cover operative:

a reply to: Phage

The technique of updating an article with a completely different story is quite common. Rarely do people go back and see the revision, and sometimes the damage is already done. Patterns, Phage; the media is full of them. S & F.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: carewemust
Where do we stand on this? Have any documents been provided to any entity yet, as proof?

Closed door meeting postponed.

Scheduling short notice problems.

Classified data lockout.

Access denied.

No kidding? Jeez. Go offline for a few hours and the entire scenario has changed. Thank-you.

a reply to: xuenchen

I thought Clapper and ? were delayed due to the "closed door" meeting preventing their appearance. Do you get the sense that there are so many crimes that potentially could be uncovered, that everyone is grid-locked? Frozen like a deer in your headlights?

a reply to: diggindirt

My my....i do believe we have a winner!

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: xuenchen

I thought Clapper and ? were delayed due to the "closed door" meeting preventing their appearance. Do you get the sense that there are so many crimes that potentially could be uncovered, that everyone is grid-locked? Frozen like a deer in your headlights?

Lots of damage assessments happening.

They have to prioritize the affected people and status.