Link between Illuminati & Knights Templar, page 1
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reply posted on 1-2-2005 @ 10:04 PM by The Axeman
First, foremost, for the umpteen millionth time, the Masons ARE NOT Satanists. Period. Now that that's out of the way, here and here are good places to start, along with this. PLEASE do some research before talking and making claims about something you are admittedly ignorant about.

Hope this helps.

[edit on 2/1/05 by The Axeman]


reply posted on 1-2-2005 @ 10:47 PM by stalkingwolf
Knights Templar - Biblical times?



reply posted on 2-2-2005 @ 04:47 PM by Leveller
Alrighty. Forget the Illuminati theory for a moment. Let's concentrate on the Templars and Freemasonry.

Unfortunately there is no documented link that stands up to scrutiny. Believe me, I've looked. But the two groups are so different, there is no way that one can state that Freemasons are directly descended from the Templars. There's plenty of discussion here on this forum and you can also find topics on masonic forums that try to find a link. Many Freemasons actually promote the idea themselves.
But alas, there is nothing. Only one solitary window in a chapel in Scotland which some claim depicts a Knight Templar involved in masonic ritual. Even this is open to interpretation and in itself can in no way be construed as proof.

When you study the KT, you will find that there were some fundamental differences between them and Freemasonry. Perhaps the biggest is that the Knights Templar were an ultra orthodox Catholic order whose job was to safeguard and spread thier version of Christianity, whereas Freemasonry promotes no religion. As romantic as it may sound there is unfortunately nothing that proves otherwise and all evidence points to the above.

There is a Knights Templar degree in Freemasonry, but this is purely symbolic and in general, any man of any religion can join it. Freemasonry is not unique in using the Knights Templar as a tale of morality either. There are literally hundreds of groups that use the name. Some actually claim a direct descendancy but Freemasonry doesn't.

www.masonicinfo.com...

Then we move onto the Illuminati. Well, this is even more of a dodgy connection. Why? Well there is absolutely no proof that it exists. There was an Illuminati organisation but it was disbanded at the end of the 18th century and there is absolutely no proof that it has re-emerged. It should also be noted that the Illuminati were fierce critics of all religions and in 1782 a masonic Lodge actually helped to have it banished from Bavaria - hardly the action of an ally. If you search ATS you can actually find one or two snippets of fact and history regarding the Illuminati and it's agenda. Unfortunately a lot of what you read is hidden amongst rubbish. Even a Google search brings up page after page of conspiracy theory that has little or no basis in fact.

You may find a brief rundown on the Illuminati here though:

www.masonicinfo.com...


As you can see, the problem is that one can't even link two of the groups to each other, let alone all three.


reply posted on 6-2-2005 @ 10:10 PM by greenmansmind
please xcuse me for my structure here,since a child i have gone against our structure..
perhaps this link will aide me in sharing with the satanistic dialogue..the egyptian eye left/right = 2 seperate meanings..masons etc etc yada blah blah blah.use the left eye..
www.cuttingedge.org...

illuminist all seeing eye symbolism made public in london

also another was trying to figure knights of the templar & masonry or something ?so i thought i'd throw the ley lines in,for the knight of the templar which if you connect points of the grid ,there lies the knight.

i can be difficult to follow ,these computers and sites are all new to me..even just a little knowledge of societies etc..for some reason a series of events..syncronistic oer coincidental led me with out looking for..peeking into secret societies,ancient history/religions math,dimensions,wrinkle in time,etc etc.
all this is new to me..few weeks..
i do have a little experience the ley lines and its influences..occasionally hobby,studying old/ancient cairnes in the north east..many in my area.
for some reason all this has just tied together
please excuse me for being here out of context..thats me!and a sloppy writer
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