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Assyrians Prevented By Kurdish Terrorists From Voting in North Iraq

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posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 09:00 PM
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(AINA)—In a brazen and nearly unbelievable move, the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) headed by warlord Masoud Barzani has prevented voting by Assyrian (also known as Chaldean and Syriac) Christians of the Nineveh Plain in northern Iraq. According to a series of reports from inside Iraq, the KDP effectively blocked the delivery of ballot boxes to six major Assyrian towns and villages in the Plains around Mosul including Baghdeda, Bartilla, Karemlesh, Shekhan, Ain Sifne and Bahzan.

Thousands of would be voters were left stranded outside polling places awaiting an opportunity to cast their ballots. Inquiries to voting authorities brought frequent promises that the ballot boxes were en route only to result in a series of disappointments throughout the day. Infuriated Assyrians filled the streets of Baghdeda- the largest Assyrian town in the Nineveh Plain-and demonstrated against the KDP’s overt disenfranchisement of Assyrians.

According to Iraq sources, the ballot boxes had been stored in Arbil, the stronghold of the KDP. The resulting unavailability of ballot boxes affected up to 100,000 Assyrian voters and tens of thousands of Yezidis, Shabak, and Turkman voters. The outright denial of voting rights to Assyrians and other non-Kurdish minorities culminates several months of intimidation, beatings, beheadings, burnings, and mutilations of Assyrian Christians in the Nineveh Plain. Just two weeks before the elections, Archbishop Basil George Casmusa of the Syriac Catholic church was also kidnapped. Although he was released one day later, his abduction and the series of escalating attacks were earlier reported by numerous sources (AINA, 09-13-2004, 08-07-2004, 06-20-2004) as an attempt to drive out Assyrians from their homes and to intimidate potential remaining voters into staying home on election day.

However, to the KDP’s dismay, thousands of Iraqi Assyrians defied the KDP’s terror tactics and ventured out to vote only to discover that ballot boxes never arrived. Assyrians in other areas of Iraq such as Mosul, Baghdad, and Karkuk were not expected to turn out in large numbers due to threats and a deteriorating security situation. The lack of voting in the Nineveh Plain has left Assyrians worldwide reeling. As one observer summarized “Not only was the in country vote prevented to a large extent by the KDP and the overall security situation, but the out of country voting was abysmal due to discriminatory placement of polling places by the IOM (International Organization for Migration) in areas favoring Kurds and others at the expense of Assyrians (AINA, 01-18-2005). In the US, less than 10% of eligible voters were registered by the IOM, a complete failure on their part.”

The KDP’s specific targeting of the Nineveh Plain is no mere coincidence. The Nineveh Plain contains the last remaining stronghold of predominantly Assyrian towns and villages in the immediate environs of the ruins of Nineveh, the ancient Assyrian capital. The Nineveh Plain has been touted by a wide spectrum of Assyrian political leaders—including foremost among them those of the Assyrian Democratic Movement (ADM)—as the center of a self-administered area as recognized in Article 53d of the Transitional Administrative Law (TAL) and what has been described as the “Last Stand of the ChaldoAssyrians”.

In their latest maneuver, the KDP effectively eliminated any possible Assyrian representation from the Nineveh Plain in the upcoming National Assembly. Whereas the KDP had earlier masked their ambitions to fully cleanse the area of Assyrian Christians, recent reports have uncovered stepped up and overt acts of terror and intimidation by self-described KDP operatives determined to drive away Assyrians.

The KDP is also targeting other communities including Turkman, Yezidis, and Shabak in a bid to suppress non-Kurdish balloting in the region. One report suggested that up to 250,000 non-Kurds may have been prevented from voting by the KDP. The obvious intent remains to electorally and “democratically” show that the area is predominantly Kurdish by preventing any other political or demographic expression. As one analyst noted, “to defacto Kurdify the area on paper by suppressing any countervailing political assertion.”

The Kurdish scheme is widely seen as an attack on the integrity of Iraq as a whole. Alluding to KDP occupation of the historically Assyrian provinces of Arbil and Dohuk, a leader noted “this is simply another land grab aimed at expanding the Kurdish occupied area into Nineveh province at the expense of a sovereign and integrated Iraq…they’re simply trying to split off as much territory from Iraq as they possibly can, while they can.”

Angry Assyrian Americans have begun to ask what the US administration’s response will be to this attack on democracy in Iraq. Assyrian Americans make up 85-90% of all Iraqi Americans. Due to disproportionate persecution, nearly half of all Iraqi Assyrians live outside the country. One enraged activist noted “Assyrians have been the most fervent proponents of secular democracy and pluralism in Iraq.” Referring to Masoud Barzani, he added “has all of our effort been to help prop up a tribal and antidemocratic despot in the north? Did we unknowingly support a policy that will lead either to the total subjugation or elimination of Assyrian Christians and other minorities at the hands of Kurdish terrorists?”








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posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 09:10 PM
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kurdish terrorist animals? thats rich.

But I agree that this disenfranchisement must be rectified.


Sep

posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 09:19 PM
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"Kurdish Terrorist Animals"

That is just racist. Change the title.

[edit on 1-2-2005 by Sep]



posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 10:05 PM
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Does anyone reallt think for a minute that this election is going to bring fereedom to Iraq? I don't. I think that within 6 months to a year this country is going to dissolve into civil war. Then they should be cut loose to fight and fend for themselves. We have lost enough lives and spent enough money on that backward country.



posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 10:08 PM
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This is sad if true. The Kurds would be doing practically the same thing Saddam did to them for years.



posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 10:22 PM
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The problem with the Kurdish tribe is that they want to maintain control of the lands they are occupying; these lands are rich in oil not yet exploited.

The reason they want that is to secure their own resources in the near feature when they decide to claim autonomy from the rest of Iraq.

That has been their plan all alone and they care less what the government of Iraq and the US think.



posted on Feb, 2 2005 @ 02:28 PM
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Nobody has anything else to say? This REALLY happened and no news station is reporting this, yet nobody gives a care on our end. WTF?



posted on Feb, 2 2005 @ 02:39 PM
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join the club.


many, many important thingsare constantly being overlooked by US and western media, even more so if that news piece contradicts the prevailing spin.



posted on Feb, 2 2005 @ 02:43 PM
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Kurds demand autonomy



Tens of thousands of Kurds have demonstrated in towns across northern Iraq, demanding a referendum on their autonomy.

About 70,000 Kurds converged on local government headquarters in Sulaymaniya in northeastern Iraq calling for the oil-rich city of Kirkuk - outside the Kurdish region - to become the capital of a Kurdish nation.

Banners also called on the two main Kurdish parties, the PUK and the KDP, to bury their rivalry and unite to present a stronger Kurdish challenge for independence.

The move appears to be part of efforts to build a united front before elections scheduled for January, when Kurds will have a chance to vote not only in Kurdish regional elections, but in a national poll for an Iraqi National Assembly.

Smaller demonstrations were reported in the northern Kurdish town of Dohuk. In Kirkuk itself – a tense city with rival populations of Arabs, Kurds and Turkmen – about 2000 Kurds held a demonstration.



Kurdish party says self-rule inevitable



Kurdish self-rule is inevitable if not imminent, according to Kurdistan Democratic Party chief Masud Barzani.

Commenting on an almost unanimous vote for independence in an unofficial referendum held on 30 January, Masud Barzani said on Wednesday that "when the right time comes it will become a reality".

"Self-determination is the natural right of our people, and they have the right to express their desires," he added.

Barzani heads one of the two main Kurdish groups which control Iraq's northern Kurdish zone.

The KDP leader was speaking three days after more than 1.9 million Iraqi Kurds - some 95% of those asked - voted for independence in an informal survey conducted by volunteers.

Iraqi Kurds have long pushed for independence, but Turkey, Iran and Syria - all with substantial Kurdish minorities - oppose the establishment of Kurdish state on their borders.

Most Iraqis oppose Kurdish secession. The international community says it is committed to establishing a unified but federal Iraq in which Kurds have a degree of autonomy.

"When you have a democracy it's almost impossible to hold people in a country that they hate," said Peter Galbraith, a visiting former US diplomat familiar with the region.

"If you asked me whether in 10 years there will be an independent Kurdistan, I'd say yes."



Historical injustices



But al-Quradaghi said you cannot talk about Iraqi Kurds without first understanding the historical injustices perpetrated against them.

"The Kurds were one people under the Ottoman empire," he said.

"But the 1916 Sykes-Picot deal between the British and the French carved up the Kurdish territories and distributed the Kurds into five separate states.

"None of the problems we see today with Kurdish rebellions and subsequent reprisals would have happened had the Kurds been given their own state like everyone else at that time," he said.

Denied a state of their own, the Kurds have waged a struggle against Baghdad for most of the century.

And the struggle has been at considerable cost.

According to Human Rights Watch (HRW), tens of thousands of Kurds were killed and hundreds of thousands fled into exile during a campaign of "extermination" by Saddam's forces in the 1980s.



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so it has begun...
now everybody will want their own piece of land,
and the dreams of "federal state of iraq" can be forgotten.
sooner or later there will be three "states",
where iraq used to be,
one for each "tribe".



posted on Feb, 2 2005 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by General Zapata
join the club.


many, many important thingsare constantly being overlooked by US and western media, even more so if that news piece contradicts the prevailing spin.


I understand that, I'm talking about us. Here, people are debating what ifs and such and here, a REAL unjustice is happening that we could do something about and we are ignoring it. Here is a real chance to change the future and we do not bother with it.


By the way, anybody know e-mails for our congress men and women and news agenices? I want to send them e-mail to this article. I hope you will too.


[edit on 2-2-2005 by ASAManifesto]



posted on Feb, 2 2005 @ 02:48 PM
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The reason I care for this is because I'm chaldean. We are the ones who were in Iraq before eveyone else, the arabs(sunni), the persians(shi'ite) and Kurdish. We made Babylon, we are in the Bible, Qu'ran and the Tora and now OUR land is being taken from us. WHERE IS OUR LAND!? WHERE IS OUR BABYLON!?


[edit on 2-2-2005 by ASAManifesto]



posted on Feb, 2 2005 @ 02:50 PM
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posted on Feb, 2 2005 @ 02:56 PM
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You know, if you look throughout history, they(kurds) never had a homeland and nobody cared after WW1 that they didn't get one, only a few care, untill they found oil and saw how rich they could be, then they started "OH KURDISHAN OH MY HOMELAND" That is OUR land. Read your own holy book dumb Kurds and now America is supporting them, their enemy.



posted on Feb, 3 2005 @ 02:10 AM
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Anybody of any government official's e-mails?



posted on Feb, 3 2005 @ 09:41 AM
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Never heard of Kurds being terrorists before.

Turkey, Iraq, and Iran all have false borders that have been
forced upon them. Kurds have one foot in Turkey and one
foot in Iraq. They deserve their own country. That's what
Turkey was afraid of ... that when we liberated Iraq that the
Kurds would all band together and want (rightfully so) their
own country which would have Turkey loosing ground.

Western Turkey and Northern Iraq should be Kurd Country.
Lower Iraq and Iran belong to the Shiites etc etc.
Turkey really should be much smaller than it is.



posted on Feb, 3 2005 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77
This is sad if true. The Kurds would be doing practically the same thing Saddam did to them for years.

Short of the institutionaly backed rape and gasing of civilians.


The outright denial of voting rights to Assyrians and other non-Kurdish minorities culminates several months of intimidation, beatings, beheadings, burnings, and mutilations of Assyrian Christians in the Nineveh Plain

And what is the source for these allegations?

I won't pretend that the Kurdish autonomy/independence movements are the 'good guys', but where are the sources for these reports? How did they distinguish between sunni/insurgency attacks and secret kurd attacks? Does the website 'babylon king' have reporters in the field?


marg6043
The reason they want that is to secure their own resources in the near feature when they decide to claim autonomy from the rest of Iraq.

Its doubtful that they'll ever be able to do so however, since that would destabilize turkey, which has spend a lot of time putting down kurd rebellions in its own territory.


a REAL unjustice is happening that we could do something about and we are ignoring it.

Demonstrate that these things are happening. Explain how this website has access to these territories and show that its not biased or dishonest.


We are the ones who were in Iraq before eveyone else, the arabs(sunni), the persians(shi'ite) and Kurdish. We made Babylon, we are in the Bible, Qu'ran and the Tora and now OUR land is being taken from us. WHERE IS OUR LAND!?

You allowed it to be taken from you, and many of you converted to islam just as easily as you converted to christianity. Your claims for 'aboriginal lands' are meaningless and will simply be ignored.

Obviously your people should not, must not, be brutalized and intimidated, however iraq hasn't been an assyrian country for a long time, and only a small part was ruled by 'chaldeans' anyway.

THe only way you guys are going to get more out of iraq is if you organize and do something about the violence over there, in order to promote the US goal of a contiguous iraqi state. The US isn't 'giving' anyone anything there, not a kurdistan, nor an 'islamic republic of Sunnia" nor a "shi'astan", and certainly not a Federate Republic of Assyria or a democratic Babylon.

You are saying that you want 'your' land, yet you gave it up a long time ago, and haven't done anythign to get it back.

Learn from the shia, organize an ethnic militia and have its commanders offer its services to the state of Iraq, and do it now while the fleeting oppurtunity is there. Otherwise, fade back into irrelevancy as in after the ottomans were thrown out and before the baathists took over.


That is OUR land

If you are an ethnic assyrian, as in the people who made the assyrian empire, then you are just as much an invader to the north of iraq as the kurds are. You have no meaningful claim to the land.


Never heard of Kurds being terrorists before.

Oh no, they certainly have terrorist organizations within them. Think of it like the balkans, when the iron fist of the soviets smashed any resistance to oblivion, no one aggitated for anything out of fear for their lives. Remove the soviets, and all of a sudden bosnians are killing croats and serbs are running death campaigns. Iraqi kurds supported and funded and armed kurdish terrorists in, well, Turkey. They were squashed. They also weren't able to do much inside iraq, because hussein, well hell, he'd use poison gas on their villages. Now iraq will 'balkanize' too.

Also, if a group of kurds, say, blew up a unit of Saddams military engineers, would they be presented as resistance fighters or terrorists?

Turkey, Iraq, and Iran all have false borders that have been
forced upon them.

Turkey sort of doesn't count, since its the core of the old defeated and destroyed ottoman empire. The Iraqis seemed to like the idea of a national iraq after the allies threw out the ottomans, so 'forced' might be relative here.

Western Turkey and Northern Iraq should be Kurd Country.

THere are kurds in eastern Iran.

As this thread demonstrates, there are other ethnicities that are as 'deserving' as the kurds in getting a country.

It would not be worth breaking up Turkey to give the kurds an independant homeland. Turkey is democratic, moderate, and was vital to US cold war defense plans. Hell, they let the US keep nukes and icbms, making them a target of soviet agression and probably nuclear strike. And for that the US is going to cleave the country in two? Or aware PUK terrorists (I beleive thats the acronym for the turk kurd movement) with what they want?



posted on Feb, 3 2005 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan


Never heard of Kurds being terrorists before.

Oh no, they certainly have terrorist organizations within them.
It would not be worth breaking up Turkey to give the kurds an independant homeland.


I never knew that about the Kurds. I figured they were just
oppressed and mass murdered. Didn't know they were doing
some murdering of their own. Interesting.

From a Western perspective breaking up Turkey would be bad
business. From the Kurd perspective, Turkey is a false border.
I'd much rather have Turkey stay together for the reasons you
mentioned, but the Kurds so have a point too. It would be nice
if now that Saddam is gone, they can integrate into their respective
countries better.



posted on Feb, 3 2005 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
I never knew that about the Kurds. I figured they were just
oppressed and mass murdered. Didn't know they were doing
some murdering of their own.

Everyone in the middle east is busy murdering someone else.


It would be nice if now that Saddam is gone, they can integrate into their respective countries better.

I agree, they deserve something. They haven't, for example, hijacked an american plane or blown up federal buildings. They are fighting against an old enemy, even if they are fighting in a repugnant way. Also, the US owes them, and the swamp arabs, for encouraging an anti-baathist rebellion amoung them and then literally leaving them hanging. Also, the Kurds, being an 'iranian people' could serve as a counter balance to Iran.

Perhaps they can be encouraged to abandon Turkey or any part of armenia they might lay claim to (just speculating there) and turn their attention to working with the kurds in iran and the other marginalized ethnicities in iran.



posted on Feb, 3 2005 @ 11:19 AM
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Oh Nygdan ... have ANY groups in the middle east or that area
of the world voluntarily given up land that they have even a remote
claim to? It would be nice ... but ....

Also, I think the Kurds make Turkey very nervous.



posted on Feb, 3 2005 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan

Originally posted by FlyersFan
I never knew that about the Kurds.
Didn't know they were doing
some murdering of their own.

Everyone in the middle east is busy murdering someone else.

That does seem to be very true, doesn't it. Everyone is killing,
being killed, planning to kill, training to kill, wanting to kill, teaching
to kill.... talk about a culture of death. UGH. And those that are
left alive probably wish for death to escape the grim realities
around them that their compatriots have created.



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