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Donald Trump has just directly accused Obama of wire tapping trump residence part two

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posted on Mar, 29 2017 @ 07:57 AM
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A Duran vid take on where we are now .




posted on Mar, 29 2017 @ 08:46 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Perhaps you know better than 16 intel agencies that Clapper was over?
www.nbcnews.com...



“We did not include any evidence in our report – and I say ‘our,’ that’s NSA, FBI and CIA, with my office, the Director of National Intelligence – that had anything, that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was no evidence of that included in our report.”


Or do you just not trust the ic under the former POTUS?



posted on Mar, 29 2017 @ 10:06 AM
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I wonder how they are going to synthesize this mess that has been brewing up . Will it be the end of the Republic ? ...I am all for Trump taking down the IC and think he has a lot of Americans on his side ,as well as a lot of none Americans...

March 28, 2017 "Information Clearing House" - "Consortium News" - Although many details are still hazy because of secrecy – and further befogged by politics – it appears House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes was informed last week about invasive electronic surveillance of senior U.S. government officials and, in turn, passed that information onto President Trump.
This news presents Trump with an unwelcome but unavoidable choice: confront those who have kept him in the dark about such rogue activities or live fearfully in their shadow. (The latter was the path chosen by President Obama. Will Trump choose the road less traveled?) What President Trump decides will largely determine the freedom of action he enjoys as president on many key security and other issues. But even more so, his choice may decide whether there is a future for this constitutional republic. Either he can acquiesce to or fight against a Deep State of intelligence officials who have a myriad of ways to spy on politicians (and other citizens) and thus amass derogatory material that can be easily transformed into blackmail.
www.informationclearinghouse.info... But the fat lady hasn't sung yet and we are not sure what the last song might be ...interesting times for sure eta Georges latest as it includes a dot leading to McCabe as being the one running the investigation into the Trump/Russian connection

edit on 29-3-2017 by the2ofusr1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 29 2017 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: UKTruth

It would be nice if Comey answered those questions publicly. As for Trump having access to the investigation, that makes no sense. If he is committing treason, he has forfeited the office.


It only makes no sense for those who continue to deny reality and don't understand he is the President of the United States. As such he can see any and all IC information whenever he wants. That is not going to change because of baseless accusations about treason.


And it makes no sense for for those who continue to deny reality that it is possible for the President to commit treason.


Who said it is not possible for the President to commit treason? Of course it is.
What kind of argument is that? /scratches head


Good first step. Now, should not potential treason be investigated?


What first step? Lots of things are possible. It's possible Chuck Schumer is working with North Korea to sell nuclear secrets. No evidence of that of course, but it is possible.
Are you saying that every possibility we could think of should be investigated?



posted on Mar, 29 2017 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

Yes but did Comey say he is under investigation?



posted on Mar, 29 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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Hahahaha

Lawrence O'Donnell just had a story on msnbc admitting the surveillance and saying the obama admin denied the fbi speaking to the public about it


Game over



posted on Mar, 29 2017 @ 09:49 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

From this story

www.google.com...=1

FBI Director James Comey attempted to go public as early as the summer of 2016 with information on Russia’s campaign to influence the U.S. presidential election, but Obama administration officials blocked him from doing so, two sources with knowledge of the matter tell Newsweek



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 05:59 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: shooterbrody

From this story

www.google.com...=1

FBI Director James Comey attempted to go public as early as the summer of 2016 with information on Russia’s campaign to influence the U.S. presidential election, but Obama administration officials blocked him from doing so, two sources with knowledge of the matter tell Newsweek




So you are finally coming around to accepting the fact that the charges are not just "spoiled grapes" from Hillary supporters. The article explains why Comey was advised not to run an op-ed piece during the election. It would not have carried sufficient weight and would look like a partisan stunt on the part of the FBI. If you believe this story, you must believe that the evidence of Russian tampering goes beyond the merely circumstantial. This is why the House Committee wants closed door hearings. They want to keep the truth from the American people. Sad.



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 06:02 AM
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Lawrence O'Donnell just had a story on msnbc admitting the surveillance and saying the obama admin denied the fbi speaking to the public about it


Please keep up. It is known that there was enough evidence to legally obtain at least two FISA warrants. Yes, the Trump campaign was surveilled because there is reason to believe that they were working with foreign agents. No one has ever denied this.



Game over


The game isn't over until the traitors are exposed.



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 06:06 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazile did a lot in order to the influence DNC primary.
Their unethical behaviour did way more than any foreign nation could do to undermine the trust of the average American in their institutions.



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 06:08 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth


What first step? Lots of things are possible.


You have just taken the first tentative step out of your lead cocoon of denial. It is possible that the Trump campaign was colluding with a hostile foreign power.


It's possible Chuck Schumer is working with North Korea to sell nuclear secrets. No evidence of that of course, but it is possible.


If routine surveillance of North Koreasn agents turned up evidence that Schumer was collaborating with them, of course it should be investigated. A FISA arrant would be required, and the bar would be pretty high for a public figure like that. The bar must have been equally high for the Trump campaign.


Are you saying that every possibility we could think of should be investigated?


No, only the ones with solid evidence, like the one against the Trump campaign. Are you saying that potential treason should never be investigated?



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 06:10 AM
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Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazile did a lot in order to the influence DNC primary.
Their unethical behaviour did way more than any foreign nation could do to undermine the trust of the average American in their institutions.


The public would not have known about it without Russian interference. Thank you for underlining how damaging the Russian strategy was.



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 06:17 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Unless you can detail why you consider DWS and Brazile are part of Russian strategy, I'll consider your posting BS once again ...


originally posted by: DJW001
They want to keep the truth from the American people. Sad.


Are you sad that the truth came out about the DNC's behaviour ?



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 06:58 AM
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Unless you can detail why you consider DWS and Brazile are part of Russian strategy, I'll consider your posting BS once again ...


You seem to be getting thicker all the time. The Russian strategy was to exploit any weakness that could undermine trust in liberal democracy. One aspect of a true multi-party system is that it is competitive. This competitiveness will often lead political strategists to use unethical means to obtain their ends. This is self evident and is generally accepted as being one of the unwanted but inevitable consequences of a competitive system.

Just because something is unethical does not mean that it is illegal. (Donald Trump has been exploiting this fact all his life.) The Russian strategy was to leak evidence of this routine political maneuvering and then have their agents of influence spin it to appear criminal in nature.

Just so readers understand, you can see examples of this spin machine all across ATS.



Are you sad that the truth came out about the DNC's behaviour ?


No, I find the desperate tactics of certain members to be pathetic. How's your plan to get Belgium out of the EU going?



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 07:04 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

You still fail to admit that if DWS and Brazile didn't behave the way they did, there wouldn't have been anything to talk about.

Are you going to claim they were being manipulated by Russia when doing that ?



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 07:11 AM
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a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke


You still fail to admit that if DWS and Brazile didn't behave the way they did, there wouldn't have been anything to talk about.


Don't be so stupid. They didn't need to do anything wrong. Russia could have cooked up fake emails, or photoshopped pictures, or bogus wiretap tapes. Remember all the Russian "leaks" about Ukraine? They just got lucky that they had some goods that the DNC couldn't prove were fake.


Are you going to claim they were being manipulated by Russia when doing that ?


Of course not! Why would I say something so idiotic! I guess your English is not as good as I thought. Look up the word "exploit," please. They were not "manipulated," their actions were "exploited."



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 07:16 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: shooterbrody

From this story

www.google.com...=1

FBI Director James Comey attempted to go public as early as the summer of 2016 with information on Russia’s campaign to influence the U.S. presidential election, but Obama administration officials blocked him from doing so, two sources with knowledge of the matter tell Newsweek




So you are finally coming around to accepting the fact that the charges are not just "spoiled grapes" from Hillary supporters. The article explains why Comey was advised not to run an op-ed piece during the election. It would not have carried sufficient weight and would look like a partisan stunt on the part of the FBI. If you believe this story, you must believe that the evidence of Russian tampering goes beyond the merely circumstantial. This is why the House Committee wants closed door hearings. They want to keep the truth from the American people. Sad.


Yeah the former DNI stated 16 intel agencies found NO evidence of collusion or crimes.
So the justification for the nixon like tactics of the obama administration will be questioned, and their illegal activities exposed. Spying on your political rivals is illegal. Those who did or facilitated it should be getting their striped suits fitted.

oh i forgot to add "russia made me do it"

edit on 30/3/2017 by shooterbrody because: the russians have hacked this and it is all the russians fault obama would never illegally survail anyone



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 07:33 AM
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Yeah the former DNI stated 16 intel agencies found NO evidence of collusion or crimes.


Really? This must be a breaking development. Please link to where he said that. The last I heard there was an ongoing investigation.



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 07:40 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001

Don't be so stupid. They didn't need to do anything wrong. Russia could have cooked up fake emails, or photoshopped pictures, or bogus wiretap tapes. Remember all the Russian "leaks" about Ukraine? They just got lucky that they had some goods that the DNC couldn't prove were fake.


So whatever the Russian may or could have forged (as of you - because there is no evidence of forgery but maybe for the US alphabet agencies that are now know to have used recycled Russians malware to let Russian digital fingerprints everywhere ...), they were just lucky to match some real wrongdoings by DNC.

Yeah right ...

Which brings us back to the same point : no wrongdoings by DNC, nothing to talk about.


originally posted by: DJW001
Of course not! Why would I say something so idiotic! I guess your English is not as good as I thought. Look up the word "exploit," please. They were not "manipulated," their actions were "exploited."


WARNING: LANGUAGE IN VIDEO
www.youtube.com...


edit on Thu Mar 30 2017 by DontTreadOnMe because: profanity in video thumbnail Mod Note: Do Not Evade the Automatic Censors



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 07:46 AM
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a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

What part of "the Russians got lucky" did you not understand? Have I ever denied that the DNC was cheating? Why must you keep putting words into other people's mouth in order to make a point? Because you know you are wrong?




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