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Fact-checking Trump’s TIME interview on truths and falsehoods

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posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:11 PM
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Fact-checking Trump’s TIME interview on truths and falsehoods




Trump said his instinct is usually right, and he usually finds evidence supporting his claims that the media and his critics ignore — even as he continued to cite nonexistent evidence.


Says he predicted Sweden riots


"Sweden. I make the statement, everyone goes crazy. The next day they have a massive riot, and death, and problems."

He’s talking about comments he made at a Feb. 18 rally when Trump talked about "what’s happening last night in Sweden." He seemed to be saying that there had been a terrorist attack attributable to immigrants and refugees the night before in Sweden. But nothing happened to that effect; there hasn’t been a fatal terrorist attack in Sweden since 2010. Two days later, a riot broke out in an immigrant-dominated neighborhood near Stockholm. But we found no reports of deaths.


Stands by his claim that thousands in New Jersey cheered on 9/11



When the TIME reporter asked Trump about his infamously wrong claim, Trump said a reporter "wrote the story in the Washington Post."

There was a Washington Post story that said law enforcement officials questioned people who were allegedly celebrating the attacks on their roofs. But this story was inconclusive at best. The reporter later said he visited that neighborhood to investigate, "but I could never verify that report." We have seen no other evidence that supports Trump’s claim. It’s still rated Pants on Fire



Says 3 million undocumented people voted in the 2016 election


"Well, I think I will be proved right about that, too."

We have repeatedly found zero evidence to support the 3 million votes claim that Trump tacitly stood by here -- and a lot of reasons to conclude that it didn’t happen.

Generally, academic research suggests that voter fraud is not widespread, and ProPublica, an investigative journalism project, tweeted that "we had 1,100 people monitoring the vote on Election Day. We saw no evidence the election was ‘rigged’ " and "no evidence that undocumented immigrants voted illegally."

The claim "is patently false," said Costas Panagopoulos, a Fordham University political scientist. "There would need to be a massive national conspiracy and coordination effort to do this, and illegal aliens would need to be on the voter rolls in states across the country months earlier to be eligible to vote."


On Ted Cruz’s father and Lee Harvey Oswald


"Well, that was in a newspaper. No, no, I like Ted Cruz, he’s a friend of mine. But that was in the newspaper. I wasn’t, I didn’t say that. I was referring to a newspaper. A

Ted Cruz article referred to a newspaper story with, had a picture of Ted Cruz, his father, and Lee Harvey Oswald, having breakfast." Trump’s claim was lifted straight from the pages of the National Enquirer. The sole "evidence" for his claim is a grainy photograph that shows Oswald with a man who may bear a resemblance to Rafael Cruz. But facial recognition software and experts told us the image is too degraded to offer much confidence.

At the same time, numerous historians of early 1960s pro-Castro advocacy said they have never seen evidence of Cruz associating with Oswald. They said they consider Trump’s claim to be implausible at best and ridiculous at worst. We rated it Pants on Fire. On how many times he’s made the cover of Time magazine "I assume this is going to be a cover too, have I set the record? I guess, right? Covers, nobody’s had more covers." The interviewer responded, "I think Richard Nixon still has you beat." That’s correct. As of the time of the interview, Trump had been on Time’s cover 11 times. Richard Nixon alone made it 55 times.


Whether Trump inherited an economic ‘mess’ from Obama




First, let’s debunk the notion that Trump inherited "a mess with jobs." We’ve already done it twice (once with eight data visualizations).


The official employment statistics are ‘not real’




Trump has a long record of making highly dubious statements about the quality of the United States’ employment statistics, which have been collected on a non-partisan and methodologically consistent basis for generations by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Trump is dabbling in conspiracy thinking when he calls BLS statistics "not real." Some unemployment figures don’t include people who would like to work but who haven’t actively looked for work in recent weeks. For that reason, the BLS also calculates an alternative statistic -- known by its technical name, U-6 -- that defines unemployment more broadly. Currently, the official unemployment rate is 4.7 percent, but the broader U-6 measure shows it as 9.2.

However, both statistics are equally "real," and the U-6 rate is just as easily accessible on the BLS website as the regular unemployment rate is.


Why does this man lie so much? Doesn't he not know that everything can be fact checked?

This man is such a habitual liar and is even worse that any known politician, including Nixon.
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posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:19 PM
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a reply to: Mictain

Because being a liar can be advantageous in the business world.

He gets his information from bad sources.

He's a Bullsh*tter and that is what they do.

He has a massive ego and so he likes to pretend he knows more than other people so they'll admire him. But doesn't put in the effort to make sure he's correct first before he starts mouthing off.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:25 PM
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a reply to: Mictain

This flag baiting partisan thread angle has been done to death. Desperate for them flags eh?

Boring..


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posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:28 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: Mictain

This flag baiting partisan thread angle has been done to death. Desperate for them flags eh?

Boring..

Now that it's becoming apparent what Trump really is it isn't fun anymore, huh?


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posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:31 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: Mictain

This flag baiting partisan thread angle has been done to death. Desperate for them flags eh?

Boring..


LOL..could care less about flags. Let us say I did, I would be posting pro Trump threads, they get the most stars and flags.

I don't see you posting "This flag baiting partisan thread angle has been done to death. Desperate for them flags" whenever it is anti Clinton or if it is a pro Trump thread.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:31 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

I mean atleast be original or come up with some new material. He just randomly compiled lies and made a thread about it.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: Mictain
A quick look at your thread history tells me otherwise. No thought or effort.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: underwerks

I mean atleast be original or come up with some new material. He just randomly compiled lies and made a thread about it.

No, he didn't. This is about the Time cover story yesterday. "Is truth dead?". Great article.

Trump lies when asked about his lies. This needs to be plastered everywhere until people recognize what is actually happening. It's one of the most telling interviews I've heard from Trump.
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posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:36 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: underwerks

I mean atleast be original or come up with some new material. He just randomly compiled lies and made a thread about it.


Well ATS is motto is "Deny Ignorance", so posting about Trump lies is following that motto.


Oh yeh, if Trump trolls make an appearance and start saying, snowflake, triggered or SJW, whatever new word they or catch phrase they have have, they will not be replied to.


I don't fall for them, so trying to get a negative response from me will not work, since I am neither of those things.

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posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

Same ish, different toilet.

Nobody is defending, ignoring or advocating his lies. Maybe when it starts to affect my life in some way I'll care.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: Mictain
A quick look at your thread history tells me otherwise. No thought or effort.


My thread history is against flags and stars, since I do not post pro Trump threads.


If I wanted those, I would be posting lies about how great Trump is.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:39 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: underwerks

Same ish, different toilet.

Nobody is defending, ignoring or advocating his lies. Maybe when it starts to affect my life in some way I'll care.

Great attitude. What could go wrong.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:41 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: underwerks

Same ish, different toilet.

Nobody is defending, ignoring or advocating his lies. Maybe when it starts to affect my life in some way I'll care.


Since this man has proven to be a habitual liar, it affects everyone because who would trust him to run America.

He got into office based on fear and lies, so is not to be trusted to run the country for the people.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:44 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

What do you expect me to do? Complain and nit pick about every insignificant lie like you guys and stress myself over it for no reason?
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posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:45 PM
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a reply to: Mictain

Some of the highest flagged threads are anti Trump though.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:51 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: underwerks

What do you expect me to do? Complain and nit pick about every insignificant lie like you guys and stress myself over it for no reason?

No lie coming from the President of the United States is insignificant.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:54 PM
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So then why hasn't it affected my life yet if it's so significant?

ETA: anyways, bye Felicia's
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posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:57 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: underwerks

So then why hasn't it affected my life yet if it's so significant?


Give it time, this fool will effect many lives.

Here is a new misrepresentation from him..


Trump Just Bragged About 20,000 New Jobs. Reuters’ Response Is Perfect




Today, I was thrilled to announce a commitment of $25 BILLION & 20K AMERICAN JOBS over the next 4 years. THANK YOU Charter Communications! pic.twitter.com/PLxUmXVl0h

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 24, 2017



BUT




In other words, the investment is a penalty imposed by regulators who were afraid of giving Charter a huge market share without protections for consumers. The broadband infrastructure requirement was made in May 2016, long before Trump had even secured the Republican nomination.

Trump is trying to take credit for jobs and investments that have nothing to do with his presidency.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 10:58 PM
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a reply to: Mictain

Trump also sank the Titanic, and never did paint me like one of his French girls.

He was also responsible for the death of disco.




posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: underwerks

So then why hasn't it affected my life yet if it's so significant?


I'm just going to leave that here for posterity's sake.



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