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I salute the GOP. Coming from a democrat

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posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

When you lube yourself and spread cheeks, you can't bitch about who rams your ass.

This was supposed to be a reply to DB'S comment.
Don't know how it got swapped.
edit on 3242017 by Natas0114 because: (no reason given)




posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 02:39 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Milehigh

I think it's less standing up for the people and more them fearing for their jobs, but hey same result right? Can't complain.


Wishful thinking moment.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: SBMcG

Then get educated,I am damn proud to be a Lib,..SAY IT LOUD I AM LIB AND PROUD!!... because I believe in liberation , I believe we are our brother's keeper ,that if we are going to have anything that's call civilization then our collective faith is tied together, I am a Lib because I want the Star Trek future rather than the Mad Max or Hunger Games future.


I'm very well educated. Liberalism has nothing to do with "liberation".

It has everything to do with allowing government to control your life.

Being your "brother's keeper" is a nice sentiment, but in reality, that does not work. You cannot force those who earn and build and create to pay for others to do nothing. If it came to that, the productive class would leave and you'd be left with lots of "brothers" and no "keepers".

Liberalism is the last thing that will bring you a Star Trek future. What it will do -- as all socialist ideologies do in the end, is bring you a Venezuela future.

Conservatism is all about more freedom, smaller government, and more personal responsibility.

More than nice sentiments, I believe that the majority of folks want better, the gov't is not some outside entity " we" put them in to represent us, and not for nothing but , when I think about the term conservative, I think of someone looking backwards pining away for past glories rather than looking at the future,as far as personal freedoms??..who want to get into your bed room , make decision about issues that's should be of family concern only. and no!!!.. all socialist ideologies do not end in Venezuela , some ends in places like Denmark and other places in Europe with a high degree of happiness, a dictatorship is a dictatorship right wing or left wing it will end badly.
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posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 04:00 PM
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originally posted by: Spider879

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: SBMcG

Then get educated,I am damn proud to be a Lib,..SAY IT LOUD I AM LIB AND PROUD!!... because I believe in liberation , I believe we are our brother's keeper ,that if we are going to have anything that's call civilization then our collective faith is tied together, I am a Lib because I want the Star Trek future rather than the Mad Max or Hunger Games future.


I'm very well educated. Liberalism has nothing to do with "liberation".

It has everything to do with allowing government to control your life.

Being your "brother's keeper" is a nice sentiment, but in reality, that does not work. You cannot force those who earn and build and create to pay for others to do nothing. If it came to that, the productive class would leave and you'd be left with lots of "brothers" and no "keepers".

Liberalism is the last thing that will bring you a Star Trek future. What it will do -- as all socialist ideologies do in the end, is bring you a Venezuela future.

Conservatism is all about more freedom, smaller government, and more personal responsibility.

More than nice sentiments, I believe that the majority of folks want better, the gov't is not some outside entity " we" put them in to represent us, and not for nothing but , when I think about the term conservative, I think of someone looking backwards pining away for past glories rather than looking at the future,as far as personal freedoms??..who want to get into your bed room , make decision about issues that's should be of family concern only. and no!!!.. all socialist ideologies do not end in Venezuela , some ends in places like Denmark and other places in Europe with a high degree of happiness, a dictatorship is a dictatorship right wing or left wing it will end badly.


You should listen to that guy.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 04:22 PM
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originally posted by: Spider879

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: SBMcG

Then get educated,I am damn proud to be a Lib,..SAY IT LOUD I AM LIB AND PROUD!!... because I believe in liberation , I believe we are our brother's keeper ,that if we are going to have anything that's call civilization then our collective faith is tied together, I am a Lib because I want the Star Trek future rather than the Mad Max or Hunger Games future.


I'm very well educated. Liberalism has nothing to do with "liberation".

It has everything to do with allowing government to control your life.

Being your "brother's keeper" is a nice sentiment, but in reality, that does not work. You cannot force those who earn and build and create to pay for others to do nothing. If it came to that, the productive class would leave and you'd be left with lots of "brothers" and no "keepers".

Liberalism is the last thing that will bring you a Star Trek future. What it will do -- as all socialist ideologies do in the end, is bring you a Venezuela future.

Conservatism is all about more freedom, smaller government, and more personal responsibility.

More than nice sentiments, I believe that the majority of folks want better, the gov't is not some outside entity " we" put them in to represent us, and not for nothing but , when I think about the term conservative, I think of someone looking backwards pining away for past glories rather than looking at the future,as far as personal freedoms??..who want to get into your bed room , make decision about issues that's should be of family concern only. and no!!!.. all socialist ideologies do not end in Venezuela , some ends in places like Denmark and other places in Europe with a high degree of happiness, a dictatorship is a dictatorship right wing or left wing it will end badly.


I'm sorry you think of restrictions of personal freedoms when you think of the term "conservative". I think I know why you do...

As with any political party, there are wings and factions and groups. At some point in the mid-1980's a vocal minority of Evangelical Christians made a run at taking over the Republican Party. They wanted all kinds of terminology installed in the platform to support their religious view of morality and behavior.

That was mostly rejected, but the stigma of the "social conservative" remained.

A real conservative simply follows the Constitution. I am granted certain rights in that document that allow me to speak freely, own firearms, and a great number of other things. As a constitutional conservative, I want my fellow citizens to have the maximum freedom granted by that document to find their own life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I want government to stay out of the way as much as possible and only be used as a mechanism of empowerment.

I don't care about your sexual preference. I don't care about your race. I only care about your religion if in your holy book it very clearly tells you to kill the unrepentant.

Real conservatives don't want to think for you. We want you to take advantage of all the freedom and opportunity this country provides.

The bottom line is, the more power government has, the less the individual does. That's really the crux of conservatism.


edit on 24-3-2017 by SBMcG because: Bill Clinton's wife caused Benghazi.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: redempsh

Been saying for a while the whole system needs an overhaul. Shrug



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 06:07 PM
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a reply to: Milehigh
That's the way you see it? The way I see it is that a Little League team spent their time looking at dirty pictures online and tweeting instead of working on their game... and then the day of the Big Game arrived. They knew the other team was going to slaughter them so they just decided not to show up.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 06:41 PM
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ignoring everything else (I am already on socialistic healthcare and it sucks) . . .

How do you call yourself a socialist and try to defend the middle "medium" class in the same breath? Did you not know that socialism calls for a huge dirt bottom lower class and a very small ruling upper class with no in-between? A middle class simply cannot exist in a socialist society.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: Milehigh

While I can understand you being happy about this and all. You do realize that it wasn't stopped for any of those reasons you listed right???

They don't give a sh*t about women's right to choose or old people's health issues or anything at all close to that. Half of them didn't like it because it didn't take away enough stuff and the rest of them didn't like it because if it did take anything else away they new they'd never get re-elected.

In other words, the reason it didn't pass was only for their own self serving reasons. Not because they give a damn about anyone. It just happened to work out that way is all. They don't deserve your praise for it IMO.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 07:14 PM
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Republicans are ignorant, selfish barbarians not to realize human beings in a modern technological massive capatilism economic structure just like all civilized countries realize, have to have a controlled health care market.

There is not one free market health care system in the civilized world because prices are just too high


The dogma of “free market” is utter nonsense and doesn’t work unless you want to kill millions of people to satisfy ones adherence to rigid economic philosophical dogma. That’s why Europeans countries don’t have this problem, they bite the bullet and subsidize health care


Only in America where the ignorant people give power to the beast( the republican party) do we go through this unnecessary health insurance war.

Single payer is the only solution.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 07:22 PM
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For the antigovernment and " free market" people


Can you put out your own fires, investigate crimes against your family, build your own roads, collect your own garbage, build your own bridges, create your own public transportation, clean your own streets? Etc...

Fight our own foreign wars, have our own military and police and firemen, clean up the streets in a snow storm, monitor a massive economic system, clean the airs and waters, maintain the parks, and libraries YOUR children use FREE, feed your kids if you all die in an accident( god forbid). Educate your children for free.

Indeed we think its nothing to provide free education but a problem to provide free health care?

Why is that



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: redempsh

Are y'all looking forward to the collapse?

No more pesky regulations at all. You can reset your whole neighborhood---your whole town, while you're at it! No more chlorine in the water, no more pollution ordinances.

Oh, the places you'll go! Oh, the things that you'll eat!

Let's play "pharmacist!"
Let's play "Obstetrician"!
Let's play "Funeral Parlor"
Let's play "Governor!"

Develop your very own foreign policy! Discover how you'd deal with a crazy dictator--there'll be one on your street!

And then, finally; nothing left to do, but smile, smile, smile.


You do realize that by bankrupting the country, Progressives have made this inevitable. It was intentional.

So, while nobody in their right minds would look forward to it, it's still going to happen.

See, when you spend more than you have for about 100 years, eventually you HAVE to pay the bill. Yes, we kicked the can down the road by getting Social Security up and going (right into the general fund.) Yes, we kicked the can down the road when we exited the gold standard. Yes, we kicked the can down the road again when we decided to become the monetary standard of the world, thus spreading our fiat inflation to the whole globe. And yes, finally we kicked the can down the road by printing our own money to pay our debt.

Looking forward to it? No.

Having it on my radar as something I should be worried about? Hell yes.



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 09:27 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
For the antigovernment and " free market" people


Can you put out your own fires, investigate crimes against your family, build your own roads, collect your own garbage, build your own bridges, create your own public transportation, clean your own streets? Etc...

Fight our own foreign wars, have our own military and police and firemen, clean up the streets in a snow storm, monitor a massive economic system, clean the airs and waters, maintain the parks, and libraries YOUR children use FREE, feed your kids if you all die in an accident( god forbid). Educate your children for free.

Indeed we think its nothing to provide free education but a problem to provide free health care?

Why is that




Why do you think that education is free? I pay taxes on it all the time and I have no children in school.

Why do you think that health care is free to the tens of millions that are on Medicaid and Medicare? I help pay for that as well, but I can't afford to pay my own heath care costs.

As far as everything else you mentioned, my COUNTY does some of that, in return for property taxes. No state government needed. Certainly no Federal government.

A question for you... can you take care of yourself? Because it doesn't seem you are able to. Like at all. Because half of what you mentioned I actually do for myself.

A city dweller, I assume?



posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 11:52 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
Republicans are ignorant, selfish barbarians not to realize human beings in a modern technological massive capatilism economic structure just like all civilized countries realize, have to have a controlled health care market.

There is not one free market health care system in the civilized world because prices are just too high


The dogma of “free market” is utter nonsense and doesn’t work unless you want to kill millions of people to satisfy ones adherence to rigid economic philosophical dogma. That’s why Europeans countries don’t have this problem, they bite the bullet and subsidize health care


Only in America where the ignorant people give power to the beast( the republican party) do we go through this unnecessary health insurance war.

Single payer is the only solution.



You do realize our healthcare system is not free market. Our healthcare system is socialism in its finest because it makes everyone poor. If our healthcare was free market then You wouldn't have Medicade & Medicare propping up healthcare providers so they can rape us. If We went to a total free market solution the hospitals and doctors would have to lower their prices drastically because no one can afford their services at todays prices. I seem to recall in the 1800's & early 1900's the doctors actually made house calls and took what ever payment that was agreed up such as eggs or chickens.



posted on Mar, 25 2017 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: seeker1963

I got no use for either team.



posted on Mar, 25 2017 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: Milehigh

Sometimes, I think people would applaud a little boy pulling the wings off butterflies...

Here's the truth about what Obama did with his policies:

In 2008, I had a good job driving a truck on a dedicated route. I made a good living, had nice things, paid my taxes, had good insurance, saved for a rainy day, gave to charity, and was happy. Then, thanks to Bush, the economy collapsed. I lost my job. I tried to get another one, but I couldn't find one. I got on unemployment, then on food stamps. I wound up working part-time for minimum wage doing grunt work. Then Obamacare came around and my hours were cut from 39 to 29 maximum.

Then one day in 2010 I had to call in sick. The response was that my hours were cut to zero. After a few weeks, I got a job with the U.S. Census. I worked there for a month and a half, and was laid off. Still couldn't find a job, so I got in school under Clinton's WIA plan. I insisted my ATS degree... no job. So I got scholarships, a tutoring job, a merchandising arrangement, and a Pell Grant to finish a BS degree in Electrical Engineering. I worked two part-time jobs while going to college full time, at over 50 years old, to try and dig myself out of the hole politicians and their stoopid policies put me in.

But during that time, my wife had a stroke... no insurance, so there's several thousand bucks of medical expenses. Then she had heart problems... they fixed the intra-arterial hole, to the tune of over $140,000. Last year, I had a heart attack... this time, the hospital took pity and let me off for a little over $5000. A few months ago, my wife had pancreatitis, which led to type II diabetes. All with no insurance, no decent job, barely able to keep the lights on. Unemployment ran out in 2010. I simply can't pay. Heck, I went off my heart meds because my wife needed meds and we couldn't get both.

Obamacare didn't help me one single bit. All it did was make my bill more expensive. Oh, wait, it did do something for my son: he had to pay a penalty because the open enrollment period somehow messed up when he changed jobs and he couldn't get insurance!

And now I get to hear people clapping and applauding everything that I just went through, ecstatic because I was financially destroyed! If there's anything more despicable, hateful, uncaring, dare I say evil, I don't want to experience it. Lucifer himself would likely run and hide.

So yeah, keep clapping. Keep pulling the wings off butterflies. Keep being happy about others' pain. But remember this: when your victim dies, you may get off scott-free, but we ain't all dying. This redneck is planning to survive, along with thousands of others, and one day the tables will turn. And if we are standing there in a position of power over you, knowing what you thought of our pain, what will we do?

TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 25 2017 @ 10:41 AM
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Im reading your post and emparhize with what youve been through but cant help to wonder how on #ing earth trump 's bill fixes your problem. 24 million people would've been in a #ty situation just like that had it not been for the pull. Been wondering since you seem wise, ever thought of becoming An electrical entrepeureur?



posted on Mar, 25 2017 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: Milehigh
a reply to: TheRedneck

Im reading your post and emparhize with what youve been through but cant help to wonder how on #ing earth trump 's bill fixes your problem. 24 million people would've been in a #ty situation just like that had it not been for the pull. Been wondering since you seem wise, ever thought of becoming An electrical entrepeureur?


Also, dont you think 600billion a year on the military is a bit too much considering the situation you re in? Imagine a cut of 200 billion injected in health services and universal insurrance? Is your number one threat muslims terrorist, north korea etc or your heart problems and your wive's pancreas?



posted on Mar, 25 2017 @ 11:04 AM
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What is so sad, how the citizens are all fighting over resources in a rich and religious country. Fighting over health care. Anyway, I am not really "happy" about any of this. Just more revenge coming our way, which means more suffering for someone.



posted on Mar, 25 2017 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3

People are not even fighting for ressources. They are fighting for services that should be a given in such a rich country




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