7,000 Huge Gas Bubbles Have Formed Under Siberia

a reply to: Subrosabelow

Have you thought about elevated garden beds? You wouldn't be impacting the amount of lawn in your backyard and if you used intensive gardening methods in said beds you could produce a decent amount of produce in a relatively small space.

a reply to: 727Sky

Siberia is only one part of the Artic Circle.

This is also happening in Canada and Alaska. Up in Fairbanks there is a stretch of road by the University that has always been studied. The road is a washing board as the permafrost has (as far as my memory goes) been melting and freezing. But it is getting worse. There are buildings starting to sag as one side or the other starts to sink into the soil as it liquefies over time as the permafrost melts. I've heard of one flooding in the dead of winter. So this is not just a seasonal thing.

I can't speak for Canadia but they should be seeing similar things.

Methane, carbon dioxide, bacteria, viruses, are all trapped in Artic permafrost. As the permafrost melts the soil becomes saturated with moisture. As that happens, any structure on top is in danger of sinking in; or, sinkholes can open up. That is why the Alaska Pipeline has those fins on the pilings the pipeline rests on--to let out residual, trapped heat so the weight of the pipeline doesn't cause it to sink into the ground.

It is worse in Siberia because it is not populated and the change is extreme. But the entire Arctic Circle around the globe is threatened.

originally posted by: markosity1973
God help us all......

This is the pending disaster that will push global warming past the point of no return.

Maybe something HUGE living down there..with indigestion.

originally posted by: markosity1973
God help us all......

This is the pending disaster that will push global warming past the point of no return.

I think we reached that point some time ago.

a reply to: Subrosabelow

Unfortunately, some cities have banned homeowners from having gardens inside the city limits, stating they're eyesores.

From over the pond that sounds really messed up. I love planting things and growing food. its our birthright!

originally posted by: whismermill
burn the methane is to simple? You convert one very potent greenhouse gas into a less potent greenhouse gas

At least plant life will appreciate the extra CO2, just like the methane burners in the glass house industry. (converts methane into CO2 for extra plant growth).

the claim that what is happening is a Cyclical Thing... is not entirely correct

the forever cycles of Ice then Fire is a cyclical thing proven to be normal for planet Earth...

But this era of unstoppable Outgassing was not a major component of the Ice - Fire Cycles

seems we have a Ice/Fire/Outgassing Cycle, the outgassing we are calling 'Climate Change'


Humanities Collective Memory has the Story/Myth that the Asteroid Belt outside of the Mars Orbit was once a Water-World which underwent a cataclysmic outgassing which resulted in the Planet Exploding causing a monster Flood on one hemisphere of Mars
And might well have been the source for the infamous Noah/Gilgamesh Flood which swallowed up planet Earth for a year, just about the same time as the great Ice-Age melt off hit the environment somewhere near 12,000BCE-8,000BCE


I have not had enough time to put pieces of the puzzle together yet....nor connect the Dots...

but I think the Earth 'Outgassing' Events taking place, both in Volcanos and the Siberian Permafrost-Tundra sink-holes --> all have a function in the soon-to-appear 'Miracles' by the 'creator' that will stop the Destructive Powers and Entities from UN-Doing all the Christian and Humanitarian efforts to help humanity to arise to a better and more enlightened state of being

the prophecy swirling around Revelation 12 comes to mind...
where the Earth rescues humanity from the clutches of the Dragon and the Demonic AntiChrist who are instrumental in creating a Genocide of both Christians & Jews in a period of utmost Chaos & Destruction called the Great Tribulation lasting for 3 & one-half Years
---------------->>> the EQs, Lava Cones, Sinkholes, Outgassing Explosions... are all just factors & elements which the Earth Natural Forces seem to focus on 'Swallowing Up' the evil forces & Armies of the antichrist/Abaddon/Satan/...
it stands to reason that Tsunami's and the Fukushima China Syndrome through the Crust to the Core will also contribute to the take-down of the Evil Nature, Evil Religious Cults which have become a interwoven part of the Culture of Man...

History's all been down hill since the 7th century AD

Sure as the planet heats up and the icy layer called perma frost or frozen ground melts away there is going to be such a thing from the root cycle of growth as the layer slowly built up over time and release it as a gas. Decay of plant and animal matter produces methane; it is what gives marsh mud that stench, as small bubbles can be seen being released through it under a calm water surface.

So just how thick this layer is depends on the latitude, so as the globe warms this is released as the layer of permafrost gets thinner and thinner retreating closer and closer and thinner and thinner over time towards the poles, the gas released also goes on to aid in the warming... such a thing is a natural cycle. The earth has been through a few of them already... something that would and does occur with or without us.

Of course planning and contgenency towards such things is a given; so that there can be less loss where we build or have built... of course many wanting to avoid panic try to act business as usual, and just leave it until something occurs requiring help. Of course; one can go that route like knowing a hard freeze is about to occur in winter but too comfortable in bed to get up and make sure the taps are on a slight drip to avoid the lines from freezing.

There's time obviously... but weather patterns changing in the face of such things; means more or less stability as sea levels rise in coastal areas and air currents change locations bringing different weather with it. Eventually it will settle into some balance, like just a dry and rainy season which some places already experience, deserts growing in the more dry so planting would be important to help stop their spread. But tropical and sub tropical is at some point to be expected except at the poles... of course deforestation is not a good thing as plants and trees help strengthen our atmosphere to aid in keeping cosmic winds from blowing it away and keeping holes from forming in it. That pollution may cause like the hole that formed in the ozone layer... weakening that layer of the atmosphere, so protecting those layers is something important to keep our blue marble from becoming a Mars.

Of course Mars has been going through some interesting changes itself, with the magentic field reactivating in the last decade, to a basic atmosphere developing etc. so it has potential to be another earth going through such stages although in their relative infancy... as the Earth eventually becomes more like venus as things progress onward. Evolution is adapting to adversity... change or impermanence is inevitable being the natural state of things. So no big deal when being smart about such things arising and passing.

originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: pheonix358

You do realise though that the pretty graph you present while be cyclical, spells mass death and destruction for humanity don't you.

With approaching 8 billion of us to feed, we rely on the climate being what it was, not what it is becoming to ensure a stable food supply. Humans will be able to survive the climate changes that are coming, but here is the catch - not as many humans as there are today.

As long as we continue to spend huge wealth on war we will get what we deserve.

Yes, I am fully aware of what will happen. There are some great things we could be doing but ... we have people like Al Gore making huge money from our future fate.

If we got together now, reduced the population in a nice fashion, got ready for what is coming ... we would survive.

As long as politicians lie, cheat and steal from us, we are doomed.

So, do something about it.

P

originally posted by: pheonix358

originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: pheonix358

You do realise though that the pretty graph you present while be cyclical, spells mass death and destruction for humanity don't you.

With approaching 8 billion of us to feed, we rely on the climate being what it was, not what it is becoming to ensure a stable food supply. Humans will be able to survive the climate changes that are coming, but here is the catch - not as many humans as there are today.

As long as we continue to spend huge wealth on war we will get what we deserve.



If we got together now, reduced the population in a nice fashion, got ready for what is coming ... we would survive.

So, do something about it.

P

I have. No children here and there never will be.

It's the third world and developing countries that are breeding like flies. The West's population has actually remained fairly static with immigration mainly driving population growth.

Somebody needs to tell the poverty stricken to stop having babies.

a reply to: markosity1973

Somebody needs to tell the poverty stricken to stop having babies.

www.kansascity.com...

But that's genocide. Or culling. Or something. Isn't it?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: markosity1973

Somebody needs to tell the poverty stricken to stop having babies.

www.kansascity.com...

But that's genocide. Or culling. Or something. Isn't it?

How so?

Contraception is not murder. It's being responsible. I believe it is everyone that wishes to's right to have children. I believe that the number of children any one female has should be capped at 2 though. That is a direct replacement for mother and father which leads to a stabilisation in the population numbers, in fact a very slight decrease when one factors in childless couples.

Letting the birthrate keep going unmitigated is collective suicide / genocide because at some point in the next generation or so we will reach break point.

a reply to: markosity1973

That was my inner woo.
Sorry.

a reply to: Phage

Lolz, I thought it was pretty funny. But you know the intey-net - it no show facial expression and intonation of voice.

originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: pheonix358

According to your Antarctica Ice Core Data, all of known human history (the last 12,000 years or so) has taken place at the very peak of one of these spikes... And what we should be more concerned about, which we can predict by looking at the chart/graph, is the near instantaneous 10 +/- degree drop in temperature which we should now or soon be entering the preliminary stages of.

The inhabitable area of the earth could be reduced to a 1000-2000 mile band around the equator, (most of which, i believe is open ocean, so, not a lot of land available) the rest being covered by half mile thick, or more, glaciers. With so much of the atmosphere trapped in the ice, only near-sea-level elevations would have breathable air. Oxygen tanks would be required for high elevations, (like, 1000 feet and up) and special suits will be developed for even higher elevations (2000 feet and up).

the good news is, most of the people will probably freeze to death or starve while trying to escape the frozen regions, so there will not be as much overpopulation or fighting over land and resources. There will be fighting
, it just wont be billions dead in the wars like you might be thinking, cause on Day 1 after the cstaclysm, there will only be a little more than 2 billion people alive, and that amount would be reduced to around 1 billion within less than 2 years.



It's probably something to do with a hitherto unknown cycle of our sun or galaxy.

Umm atmosphere isnt able to become ice itself like you are thinking. And also You are desribing a earth that has stopped rotating when talking about the middle of the planet as the only livable zone. CHill*get it* Not going to instantly happen either.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: markosity1973

Somebody needs to tell the poverty stricken to stop having babies.

www.kansascity.com...

But that's genocide. Or culling. Or something. Isn't it?

Just be thankful we dont do a thinning based on something as trivial as test scores. Youtube red has a original movie called"the thinning" where teenagers who are not smart enough are disposed of.Although it turns out that the testing is rigged in some way judging from the trailer. My guess is the not smart ones are being used as meat products.

a reply to: markosity1973

Thanks, I guess I just don't like reading too much doom porn....the Planet seems to be dying....whether its in 100 years or 1000 is the question

a reply to: markosity1973

To many people; children are the greatest riches life ever offers. Too many people? Well, that's a concept of perspective or view; Too many people doing or not doing what? Seems to be the real issue, and the "what" being so vastly defined, in so many many varied ways? It ends up just being exactly what it already is.

a reply to: markosity1973

Oh, thank God global warming won't care either way and there's nothing we can do about it. Almost had me worried there...

originally posted by: pheonix358
This explains exactly what happens. It is a simple cycle. Mother nature knows best

P

Wouldnt it be interesting if all that chart really proved was...

Humans have done this over and over and over. Build up civilization, destroy ourselves, regroup and start over.