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Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers

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posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 10:17 PM
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originally posted by: dreamingawake
a reply to: Aazadan

As seeing with the vote, according to them you don't personally own nor govern any of your searches.

You're right with the prior reply, your mail can't legally be opened, why should your searches, without warrant and sold to any company who seeks the data.


This is how it gets tricky. Did you give your data to Google when you submitted, or are they simply reading your data, in order to give you their data to read? Each for the purpose of only having that data one time? What gives them the right to store that data, or use it to build a profile of you? It's your information, not theirs... you simply let them read it.

...or that's one interpretation.




posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 10:20 PM
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posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 10:20 PM
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a reply to: dreamingawake

NO government is the friend or protector of the INDIVIDUAL.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 10:22 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

I'd assume that's how some may have looked at the bill. If they could read it(claims they cannot from Pelosi) anyway before signing instead of just a breakdown.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: Mandroid7

Now there's some 'outside the box' thinking! !!

The technology to do this exists right now, only the backend component is missing. Actually, it's probably also available but ISPs damn sure aren't going to give it up! !! It would spell doom for them.





edit on 3/23/2017 by Flyingclaydisk because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 10:25 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

They shouldnt be allowed to to access any of our stuff. Then again...I fought the Electric and Gas companies refusing to have a "smart meter" installed on my house that they can monitor and control.

They jumped my back fence when I wasnt home...and installed it anyway with a lock. "Big Brother's" coming was far more insidious than any of us couldve expected.

Give us tons of computer and digital "toys" and "gotta haves"...and theyre "in".
MS



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 10:26 PM
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a reply to: dreamingawake

Lotsa "R's" on that list of people that voted to sell browsing history ... You can thank the Republican party for supporting this. I can't believe I'm the first person in this thread to point this fact out.

Anyway, if this truly bothers you -- don't use the internet. ISP's are private companies and you sign up for service and agree to terms and conditions.

If enough people dropped their internet plans and voted with their wallets, theoretically the ISPs would have to change their tune, right? I mean, that's what conservative friends of mine always tell me about the free market. It corrects itself and caters to the public's needs/wants.

No? What do you mean they don't care and won't listen and will do whatever the hell they want because they know the internet is now a vital part of our lives and infrastructure?

Yeah, well ... maybe voting at the ballot box might have worked better in this instance after all.
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posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 10:37 PM
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Honestly, the direction this country is heading is scary as hell.

Sold out to the highest bidder.

No protection, no privacy, just weaponizing our tax dollars against us and growing their own power, while circumventing the constitution.

Fake cell towers for police interception with warrant-less searches, melting your skin off in a shower approved.

I am just about done here, I am headed somewhere else to live.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: mysterioustranger



They jumped my back fence when I wasnt home...and installed it anyway with a lock. "Big Brother's"


Funny how they cannot be prosecuted for trespass...

Here they had the force of Police to do their dirty work


The video suggests that Power NI have acted beyond their authority in forcibly installing a Smart Meter against a person's wishes, something that the UK Government has repeatedly admitted cannot and will not happen. As reflected in a statement by former Energy Minister Charles Hendry (Hansard, 29 November 2011), whilst Energy suppliers will need to take “all reasonable steps to install smart meters for all domestic and smaller non-domestic customers by 2019” – they: “do not expect suppliers to seek an entry warrant simply to fit a smart meter and it will not be an offence for householders to refuse to accept a smart meter”.




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posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 10:45 PM
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a reply to: Mandroid7

Good luck finding a spot on Earth where they can't find you. They can read newspapers from orbit buddy.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: the owlbear
Yep...
They're really gonna profit off of me...
My browsing history:
Free porn
Free porn
Free porn (continued)
Above top secret threads
Free porn
Maybe some recipes
Ats again
Free porn


LOL Me:

ATS
CNN
FOX (on occasion to see how crazy they are)
Daily Kos
You Tube- random stuff- like horror (ReignBot) and interesting websites, makeup advice from Jefree Star, The People's Court, TheSheaShow (property management), The Daily Show, Secular Talk, TYT, conspiracy theories, hidden places, 360 degree tourist videos of major cities, Japan stuff, Japan Vloggers
Wish.com -for my fashion needs.
Amazon.com- house stuff
Vape shops
Facebook
9 different emails
Pinterest
BBC
free streaming TV/movies
Flash MMPORG games
Bitcoin and deep web and work on a separate machine that never logs into anything but still breaking no laws.
Free porn!

I am not sure what they can do with that



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 10:59 PM
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originally posted by: Kettu
a reply to: Mandroid7

Good luck finding a spot on Earth where they can't find you. They can read newspapers from orbit buddy.

Not true, yet. Just leave the house without your cell pone. 90% chance you can;t be tracked.

I stopped logging into some places requiring a google login. Odd, before I would be logged into say, YouTube automatically. Now, about every 24-48 hours google wants me to log into YouTube. I just don't. I can remember youtubers that I follow.
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posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 11:11 PM
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a reply to: dreamingawake

This is why I use TOR.

Anyone can use it, it is free and companies cannot track your whereabouts while you are surfing the net.

Tor works behind the internet, and you are given a different Ip address, and a free firefox antivirus program that checks for virus.

Never need to worry about your information being sold, especially when no one knows you're on the internet.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 11:13 PM
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a reply to: Informer1958

Heh, watch out for those compromised exit nodes.

And never mind that TOR started as a DARPA/government/Navy project. It's not nearly as safe or secure as you seem to think it is ...



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 11:18 PM
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a reply to: reldra

You are likely on at least 50 security/intersection cameras a day. Unless you live in a cabin in the woods. And then, how did you build that cabin? Where did you buy the supplies? Oh you paid with cash? Where did you get that cash, an ATM? Those have cameras. A private sale? That person might have a cell phone listening. Any time you interact with civilization you expose yourself. This is why its a joke that Bin Laden stayed "missing" for so many years. If they wanted his ass, they could have found his ass.

And yes, they can read newspapers from orbit. They can tell what type of screw is on the wing of a plane too. The SR-71 way, way back could see something the size of a golf ball. And that was decades ago. The stealth sats they have up there now are far more capable, and the types of new *ahem* optics they're using are decades ahead of what NASA has. The NRO just gave NASA some old-ass space telescopes bigger than Hubble a while back. And the NRO wasn't using them to look at space.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 11:24 PM
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originally posted by: Kettu
a reply to: dreamingawake

Lotsa "R's" on that list of people that voted to sell browsing history ... You can thank the Republican party for supporting this. I can't believe I'm the first person in this thread to point this fact out.

Anyway, if this truly bothers you -- don't use the internet. ISP's are private companies and you sign up for service and agree to terms and conditions.

If enough people dropped their internet plans and voted with their wallets, theoretically the ISPs would have to change their tune, right? I mean, that's what conservative friends of mine always tell me about the free market. It corrects itself and caters to the public's needs/wants.

No? What do you mean they don't care and won't listen and will do whatever the hell they want because they know the internet is now a vital part of our lives and infrastructure?

Yeah, well ... maybe voting at the ballot box might have worked better in this instance after all.

I have no problem protecting myself, the worrying isn't towards myself anyway. The issue overall is the loss of privacy that should not be supported. It's corporate interest at hand catering to those majority GOP voters in favor of this wallets.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: dreamingawake

This is why I use TOR.

Anyone can use it, it is free and companies cannot track your whereabouts while you are surfing the net.

Tor works behind the internet, and you are given a different Ip address, and a free firefox antivirus program that checks for virus.

Never need to worry about your information being sold, especially when no one knows you're on the internet.

TOR usage can bring you on a list even easier. Not that members of the site aren't already there whether they are contrarian or not to CT topics, the whole of it is affected.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 11:43 PM
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originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: dreamingawake

This is why I use TOR.

Anyone can use it, it is free and companies cannot track your whereabouts while you are surfing the net.

Tor works behind the internet, and you are given a different Ip address, and a free firefox antivirus program that checks for virus.

Never need to worry about your information being sold, especially when no one knows you're on the internet.


Not precisely. You're almost right though so I give you credit for that. And for it being good advice.

TOR, The Onion Router, is exactly that....it hops various worldwide routers so that tracking your purchase tendencies and browsing tendencies is impossible to pin down to any one particular IP address. The ISP and routers IP address of the last hop before you connected would be what has garnered the traffic. It doesn't work behind the internet perse, but instead it works more as a series of proxies without the technical and security disadvantages of using an unfamiliar proxy server.

Your ISP knows you're on the internet, they simply only realize that you connected to a TOR router on its first hop....after that, they're lost.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 11:45 PM
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a reply to: dreamingawake

Nah that's not true. Unless the people running TOR are also willing to provide your browsing history, which they might for all I know, but it's relatively unlikely.

I will add though, that if there are any proxy servers that one CAN trust, your best bet is still through a proxy and not some series of routers setup by unknown faces.
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posted on Mar, 24 2017 @ 12:04 AM
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originally posted by: Kettu
a reply to: dreamingawake

Lotsa "R's" on that list of people that voted to sell browsing history ... You can thank the Republican party for supporting this. I can't believe I'm the first person in this thread to point this fact out.

Anyway, if this truly bothers you -- don't use the internet. ISP's are private companies and you sign up for service and agree to terms and conditions.

If enough people dropped their internet plans and voted with their wallets, theoretically the ISPs would have to change their tune, right? I mean, that's what conservative friends of mine always tell me about the free market. It corrects itself and caters to the public's needs/wants.

No? What do you mean they don't care and won't listen and will do whatever the hell they want because they know the internet is now a vital part of our lives and infrastructure?

Yeah, well ... maybe voting at the ballot box might have worked better in this instance after all.


you could do that but youd be quite hypocritical if u didnt follow through on that with every company that sells yor info which in this day and age is everyone, from the supermarket probly to this very website.




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