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originally posted by: introvert
There are many of us Leftists that are not only armed, but also well-trained in how to use rights we have been given and would be among those willing to stand up when forced to.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: introvert
Soft targets?
Kind of like abortion clinics?
That happens, but I was thinking more along the lines of setting IED's in the streets and going on shooting rampages in theaters. More politically based than religious based. I don't think it's the 3% group who identifies with abortion bombings, even though a lot of them do tend to be religious they're more interested in overthrowing the government than punishing sinners.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
Here is the issue, they were fighting a sovereign government for the possession of the land they had determined as home, you are suggesting that they are sick enough to kill other US Citizens that disagree with them.
That's because I think they are. The militia groups in the US are becoming radicalized. They don't see the people who disagree with them as fellow citizens. They see them as fascists and traitors.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: introvert
There are many of us Leftists that are not only armed, but also well-trained in how to use rights we have been given and would be among those willing to stand up when forced to.
Historically, leftists have proven quite capable of fighting. Look at all the leftist dictatorships that have existed in just the last century. It's usually the right wingers that lose.
Not that I'm saying you would support a Castro or Stalin government but they're proof that leftists do know how to fight, even if they don't always own weapons.
More on the topic of the 3% terrorists, I really do wonder what the military would do in such a situation. The militias think that because of their commonly shared oaths the military would side with them, yet there's just as reasonable an argument that the military swore to protect the nation from all threats... foreign and domestic. To throw a scenario out there that I like to use. Lets say a caravan formed in Oregon, was traveling across the country, and would reach DC in 3 days. Their stated goal is to force out the current corrupt congress at the point of a gun and elect their own people to those positions. I think the military would defend the government and stop them.
More broadly, I don't think that there's any substantial numbers of people out there who are willing to give their lives for Donald Trump. The man is a joke. Conservatism is creating a radicialized militia, but Trump is not the embodiment of that militia. He inspires some of the xenophobes and racists, but those folks are just a fraction of an already small group. The militias to look out for are the ones who are into things like forcibly shrinking government by breaking it financially and ousting officials.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: introvert
Soft targets?
Kind of like abortion clinics?
That happens, but I was thinking more along the lines of setting IED's in the streets and going on shooting rampages in theaters. More politically based than religious based. I don't think it's the 3% group who identifies with abortion bombings, even though a lot of them do tend to be religious they're more interested in overthrowing the government than punishing sinners.
I believe the example I gave is rooted in politics, as much as it is religion.
Considering the current state of affairs, I'm not sure there is much difference.
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: WilliamtheResolute
Lol... yeah I don't know.. how smart do I have to be on the same level as misogynist aggro racist people who use their belief in the magic grandpa mystic to stay unevolved.
They can't even handle Afghanistan. Good luck with Texas.
originally posted by: Milehigh
originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: FamCore
Well if Trump got impeached or otherwise, I'm pretty sure a lot of people will be up in arms.
And our army would stop them in a day.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: introvert
There are many of us Leftists that are not only armed, but also well-trained in how to use rights we have been given and would be among those willing to stand up when forced to.
Historically, leftists have proven quite capable of fighting. Look at all the leftist dictatorships that have existed in just the last century. It's usually the right wingers that lose.
Not that I'm saying you would support a Castro or Stalin government but they're proof that leftists do know how to fight, even if they don't always own weapons.
originally posted by: yuppa
Aazadan. Here is where a great leader and orator can lay out a case to the military that the enemy IS the government and flip many to their side. Imagine promising them self rule over their own states again. How many would that flip?
No paying of taxes anymore. no restrictions on weapons anymore. no more lawyers mis using the law anymore.
Returning control back to the people who it has been stolen away from once again.
I do not think its impossible to win a second civil war if they can do the above.
do you speak french?
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: FamCore
" Well if Trump got impeached or otherwise, I'm pretty sure a lot of people will be up in arms.
Many Citizens of this Great Country would Consider something like that a coup d'état Without some Very Good Substainiated Reasons to Even consider it .