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Donald Trump and Russia

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posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 06:32 PM
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There's no collusion between Trump and Putin regarding the election. That's what they are trying to prove, that he's a Russian agent that will do Russias bidding and not serve America's. It's a conspiracy theory and nothing more. They are desparate to stop him.

However, pre election and presidency Trump has some "Russian" business connections during running his world wide business empire., Some of which are shady characters and actually in jail. All publicly known and reported in mainstream news. Still, nothing illegal with respect to Trump and nothing having to do with "colluding" with Russia to win an election. There's more suspicious activity by the Clintons and their cronies to be honest.




posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: Mictain

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: Mictain

Yes a dumb idiot became a billionaire, succeeded at the highest levels of life and became the president.


Certainly helps to have have been able to get money from daddy to start out. It does not take a genius to become a billionaire, Trump is proof.

His constant ramblings that sound like somebody from grade school, his bumbling of how the government is running now proves all this.



Not to mention, you don't have to be intelligent at all to become rich or become president in a country populated by guillable fools, especially when you have the electoral college as your friend. Just convince enough idiots in the right places to vote for you. Its not rocket science.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

That's an incredibly strong argument: Everyone you disagree with is an idiot.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 06:59 PM
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originally posted by: markosity1973
There may have been collusion, there may not have been. That is not the real issue here.

What Americans need to be asking themselves is WHY is Russia the boogeyman? Yes it has done naughty things, but since communism fell, that naughty thing ratio would be at least 4 to 1 America to Russia.

Neither the USA or Russia would ever be stupid enough to allow the country to be taken over by the other, so why is it impossible to forge a friendship based upon mutual respect of one another's differences and working together for altruistic goals on the world arena?


many of us have asked this same question and ive come to the conclusion that people just need something to hate. its quite sad cause we can get much more done by being friends then the other way around.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: TheScale

If one needs something to hate, how about radical Islam.

That one is actually dangerous and trying to take over.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 07:10 PM
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Every politician except Trump who run for president in 2016 bad mouthed Putin. Putin understands that. It is campaign rhetoric. Politicians are 2 faced. A private face. A public face. Trump being a businessman does not bad mouth anyone, and he's too old to change that habit. Personally, I don't think any politician who run for president in 2016 is hostile to Russia. The US and Russia have maintained continuous diplomacy through hundreds of years. No single politician can change that.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

Maybe not one politician, but a whole bunch warmongering insecure democrats might. Just think of the trigger effect when does actually meet with Putin and they say they'll try to improve relations.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 08:16 PM
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Interesting, now his supporters are in here defending him as smart enough to collude with Russia. LOL
edit on 23-3-2017 by Mictain because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 08:20 PM
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This is the guy. LOL






posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: Mictain

It's all BS. If anyone was in collusion it is the Clinton campaign. Hillary got millions from them and Podesta owns shares into the Russian oil oligarchs.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 08:28 PM
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I can't think of anytime in history an American president was ever accused of colluding with a foreign power.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 08:32 PM
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Some of these posts beg the question, who would you trust more as a person, Hillary or Putin?



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 08:32 PM
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originally posted by: Mictain
Interesting, now his supporters are in here defending him as smart enough to collude with Russia. LOL


why dont u show some intelligence yourself and put together a thread with facts to back up your theory instead of running around like a 6 year old throwing a fit through every thread about the donald even when his name isnt mentioned or the thread isnt about him.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: FlyingFox
I can't think of anytime in history an American president was ever accused of colluding with a foreign power.


While the former president stands accused of surveillance and wiretapping of the Trump campaign into and allegedly through the transition and, a current deep state war against the new administration...

Make no mistake, nor to fail to see what's really going on here and that is a virtual war at the highest levels in our government and agencies.




posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 09:28 PM
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originally posted by: FlyingFox
Some of these posts beg the question, who would you trust more as a person, Hillary or Putin?



That's how incredibly delusional the argument that Trump is a traitor and pledged loyalty to Russia. He's going to do serve Russia and not the American people. The story belongs on a Netflix series.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 09:29 PM
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originally posted by: mkultra11

originally posted by: FlyingFox
Some of these posts beg the question, who would you trust more as a person, Hillary or Putin?



That's how incredibly delusional the argument that Trump is a traitor and pledged loyalty to Russia. He's going to serve Russia and not the American people. The story belongs on a Netflix series.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: Mictain

Yep. Trump, a real rocket scientist. I suppose he looks and sounds intelligent to a potato. Although one doesnt have to be smart to collude with a foreign adversary, and given his business and personal ties to Russia were widely known well before he was even the GOP nominee, he wasn't exactly sly about the whole thing.

Trump had some level of involvement, he would have had to, give the whos and whats.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Mictain

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Mictain

Yet he was smart enough to beat Hillary and all his naysayers.


He only won because, the dems screwed over Sanders, the release of emails before the election and the fact that Clinton sucked.

He did not win because he was smarter. LOL


So does that make Trump smarter?

Or does it make Democrats stupider ?



The second one is the right answer.



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