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JFK called Hitler 'the stuff of legends': Secret diary reveals future president's fascination

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posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 12:32 AM
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John F. Kennedy referred to Adolf Hitler as having 'the stuff of which legends are made' in a diary entry written shortly after visiting Germany in 1945.
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And now excerpts from the diary, which were revealed by People Magazine, have shed light on just how the man who would become president thought about the genocidal German leader.

'You can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived,' Kennedy wrote.
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www.dailymail.co.uk...

JFK's former research assistant, Deirdre Henderson, has arranged to auction off a diary of JFK when he was a Massachusetts senator.

The comments made by the young JFK, almost sounds like Kennedy admired this despicable man who caused so much suffering and death.

This diary of the young JFK tells us how he saw the world and politics as a young man.

In the article there are scanned pages from JFK's diary.

Henderson states that the complimentary words that JFK had for Hitler did not equate to support for the horrific acts done by the Nazi. Although to tell you the truth, I am not certain how anyone could say anything positive about that diabolical figure known as Hitler.






edit on 23-3-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.




posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 12:56 AM
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JFK called Hitler 'the stuff of legends': Secret diary reveals future president's fascination


It bears mentioning that that was a wide held belief, and that many, many people was fascinated with Hitler. Also, JFK was demonstrably right in that Hitler in many ways became legend. And no doubt Hitler was "one of the most significant figures who ever lived"


I know you do not outright say it, but your thread name sort of suggests that JFK had a positive view on Hitler, and I do not see that from the actual excerpts. You might want to edit.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 01:03 AM
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One guy, ruined the name Adolph, forevah.

Now they call themself, Adi.

Heh Adidas anyone?



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 01:32 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

John F. Kennedy referred to Adolf Hitler as having 'the stuff of which legends are made' in a diary entry written shortly after visiting Germany in 1945.
...
And now excerpts from the diary, which were revealed by People Magazine, have shed light on just how the man who would become president thought about the genocidal German leader.

'You can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived,' Kennedy wrote.
...

www.dailymail.co.uk...

JFK's former research assistant, Deirdre Henderson, has arranged to auction off a diary of JFK when he was a Massachusetts senator.

The comments made by the young JFK, almost sounds like Kennedy admired this despicable man who caused so much suffering and death.

This diary of the young JFK tells us how he saw the world and politics as a young man.

In the article there are scanned pages from JFK's diary.

Henderson states that the complimentary words that JFK had for Hitler did not equate to support for the horrific acts done by the Nazi. Although to tell you the truth, I am not certain how anyone could say anything positive about that diabolical figure known as Hitler.







The best president we ever had looked up to hitler banged the icon of femininity and sexual appeal, apparently put men on the moon and stopped a mad type situation lol



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 01:34 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

John F. Kennedy referred to Adolf Hitler as having 'the stuff of which legends are made' in a diary entry written shortly after visiting Germany in 1945.
...
And now excerpts from the diary, which were revealed by People Magazine, have shed light on just how the man who would become president thought about the genocidal German leader.

'You can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived,' Kennedy wrote.
...

www.dailymail.co.uk...

JFK's former research assistant, Deirdre Henderson, has arranged to auction off a diary of JFK when he was a Massachusetts senator.

The comments made by the young JFK, almost sounds like Kennedy admired this despicable man who caused so much suffering and death.

This diary of the young JFK tells us how he saw the world and politics as a young man.

In the article there are scanned pages from JFK's diary.

Henderson states that the complimentary words that JFK had for Hitler did not equate to support for the horrific acts done by the Nazi. Although to tell you the truth, I am not certain how anyone could say anything positive about that diabolical figure known as Hitler.







Actually, its pretty easy to do that.

Key example.. Aaron Hernandez former TE of the New England Patriots

I can easily say.. wow, Aaron Hernandez had the tools that legends are made of, speed, strength, size, quickness, hands.. and a mean streak

That doesnt mean I cant still hold him morally accountable for murdering 3 men in cold blood.

Jeffrey Dahmer...

He was an excellent manipulator and a smooth charismatic confident conversationalist

that doesnt mean I dont still think he is a horrific serial killer

We are all human, and we all have positives and negatives, we all have talents and skills.

Except Trump.. hes an exception



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 01:43 AM
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It's said that Edward VIII was in full support of Hitler; it's thought if he didn't abdicate the throne for the sake of love; because the British cabinet thought his marriage was immoral and objected to it? That WW2 may have gone a lot differently than it did.

Merely, historical conjecture but interesting nonetheless the same as Kennedy seeing how Adolph was able to inspire and move so many people.

Of course as a leader; one would hope to be able to move the people in inspiration towards greatness; the sad thing is the desire did not stop at borders even sadder is any ideology that did not fit inline with what was desired within those borders was trunced without a second thought and labeled subversive.

That sort of danger still faces all governments to this day; not just the ones already under such oppression to be silenced by any means, but those concidered free where differing opinions are valid and that's why there is even a senate to begin with that is supposed to debate such things, as the house is supposed to represent the voices of the people in states that couldn't voice it themselves in any other way.

So of course when government ceases working for the very people they are supposed to work for and represent even using the military to their own ends? Things can get very questionible as to where we are heading or what the agenda actually is... as far as the people know the agaenda should be of course what we the people want so that it remains a more perfect union than a wtf is even going on with us. State of the union is supposed to clear all of that up, and unify us together in ok thats the agenda? cool we can hang with that... if that is even thruth however. So it gets kinda weird when people say one thing or do another and it's lie after lie.

Kennedy was inspiring looking to bring about great things and move on into the future with moving into the frontiers of space, not that different than Hitler some 30ish years previously, within the dynamic of free world the U.S. of course was thought and still thought to represent. I don't know if we will ever know; for sure what he was trying to hint at that likely got him killed... but seeing how the confidentiality period is running out on many of those documents... maybe we will get a better idea.

But at some point of being a leader; it kind of dawns at just how much responsibility that is, as one thing said or taken wrongly can cause all sorts of upheaval. Seems some of that is used on purpose at times for various reasons as it is an effect that occurs at such a level of influence. Not only locally but globally as well; so one would hope translators even when something is said that it comes across meaning exactly what it is intended to mean, to not draw any offence... especially when some words are the exact same in both languages but have very very different meanings.


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posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 01:44 AM
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a reply to: Lucidparadox

Except that JFK did say, and I quote:


'You can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived,' Kennedy wrote.


He expected Hitler's image to emerge from the hatred that surrounded him. In other words, he believed in the future people wouldn't care about the evil Hitler caused and would see him more like a legend.




A legend is a narrative of human actions that are perceived both by teller and listeners to take place within human history and demonstrating human values, and which possesses certain qualities that give the tale verisimilitude. Legend, for its active and passive participants, includes no happenings that are outside the realm of "possibility", but may include miracles. Legends may be transformed over time, in order to keep them fresh and vital, and realistic. Many legends operate within the realm of uncertainty, never being entirely believed by the participants, but also never being resolutely doubted.[1]
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en.wikipedia.org...

People seen as legends are normally celebrated for their feats.

Oh and btw, i am certain you mean "except Obama and Hillary".

edit on 23-3-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: add comment.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 02:04 AM
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WWII wasn't significant?

From his part in a failed coup to leading an economically dead Germany to the scourge that scared the hell into the world?

Yes, he was a legendary figure. So was Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun, heck Pol Pot will be remembered for as long as we have history books.

If you want a more "likable" person who's cemented himself into history look no further than Cuba, a man I have no doubt JFK tried to kill.

In NO way does that mean any of these people who will be remembered in time were good people, they were highly significant and dare I say it... Legends of their time.

People get awfully confused by words such as "great" or "awe" and "legend".



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 02:12 AM
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Hitler was and still is admired even by the people who shouldn't admire him like the jews! I know sounds crazy until you take a real look at present day Israel. Listen to their superiority complex and how some even stated hitler was right just about the wrong people! I do believe hitler is misunderstood and he just didn't hate the jews for no reason! He knew about what the jews did in russia with communism it was a real danger to Germany at that time. How they overthrew a christian nation and killed its royalty then mass genocided its own people. Hitler was a bad guy but you cant say he didn't love his own people and believe in them!

Now to be honest he lost germany the war and didn't pay attention to his generals. I think what most people admire about hitler was what he accomplished "not killing the jews" but restoring his peoples faith in themselves and germany's technology advancements.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 02:21 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Lucidparadox

Except that JFK did say, and I quote:

'You can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived,' Kennedy wrote.


He expected Hitler's image to emerge from the hatred that surrounded him. In other words, he believed in the future people wouldn't care about the evil Hitler caused and would see him more like a legend.





No, Kennedy writes that he expects that Hitler as a significant figure will be recognized in spite of the hatred. At the time people in the west was blinded by hatred and refused to see Hitler as a significant figure and saw him only as the incarnation of evil.

Emotions, in 1945, was too high to recognise him as important even though there can be no doubt that he was.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 02:32 AM
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a reply to: Lucidparadox

Really? You try and justify hernandez and dahmer, but trump is too much????



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 02:48 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Hitler was a friggng genius. Unfortunately, he got consumed by the darkside.

edit on 23-3-2017 by Wide-Eyes because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 03:08 AM
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Yawn.

I remember back forever ago someone got in a bunch of heat for saying "Osama Bin Laden is a great man".



Great doesn't mean "good", it means profound.


And JFK was right, well although his name will always be hated, his idea on designing a political party movement on social psychology and tribalist theory are now being copied verbatim by the progressives of today.
There, I said it.
The specifics of the tribalist theory are much different, but social engineering groupthink model itself is straight from the mind of...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 06:18 AM
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The first time I read The Diary of Anne Frank was in 1960. I was fascinated with Hitler too. How he could do such horrible things and a nation just stood by and watched it happen. It was like he had hypnotic power over rallies.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 07:10 AM
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I often wonder about the true story behind Hitler,all of the scientist'sand several others studied in colleges here in the US,and one thing that sticks out is the phrase of WW2 and WW1 was"3 million Jews were killed"wth there wasn't even near that many to start,plus many Nazi officers were jewish,once again nothing but lies being told,because the truth was it was staged to take over country's and loot them,look it up US biggest looters in modern history



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 07:10 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse
I often wonder about the true story behind Hitler,all of the scientist'sand several others studied in colleges here in the US,and one thing that sticks out is the phrase of WW2 and WW1 was"3 million Jews were killed"wth there wasn't even near that many to start,plus many Nazi officers were jewish,once again nothing but lies being told,because the truth was it was staged to take over country's and loot them,look it up US biggest looters in modern history



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 07:48 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
The first time I read The Diary of Anne Frank was in 1960. I was fascinated with Hitler too. How he could do such horrible things and a nation just stood by and watched it happen. It was like he had hypnotic power over rallies.


But trump = hitler

Hitler = legend

Legend = trump



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 08:07 AM
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It really isn't as simple as what you would like it to be.

Hitler was a fascinating man. He had the ability to go from a criminal coming out of jail to leading an entire country in lock step.

And you don't wonder about the man? You don't wonder about the mind that control and entire country?

I think anyone who was alive at that time would be interested to know who the man Hitler was.


'You can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived,' Kennedy wrote.

I do not take this to mean that he will emerge as a good man or even without the hate. I simply take this as the hatred will be overshadowed by the significance of who he was.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 08:57 AM
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He's wasn't wrong: Hitler was a fascinating man, and he became a legend, both of which for all the wrong reasons, though.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 10:08 AM
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google "rich man's trick" for good insight around Kennedy and the Nazis at the time. It's a little long at 3.5 hours:

www.youtube.com...




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