Would a god require worship?

something that created...

beyond anything we could conceive...

way back when there was one

yet now from that ONE is infinite(?)

We ride a moment in this chaotic brilliance...





But HE needs your support!!

originally posted by: Akragon

But HE needs your support!!

You got that backwards. Worship is for our benefit, not His.

originally posted by: NthOther

originally posted by: Akragon

But HE needs your support!!

You got that backwards. Worship is for our benefit, not His.

Not if you are Muslim.

Have you not seen Stargate Atlantis? Gods need followers to worship them, or else they don't have any power. Hallowed are the Ori.

"Blessed are the true believers, for only they shall walk the Path, and they shall be welcomed unto the realm of the Ori and made as one with Them."

originally posted by: NthOther

originally posted by: Akragon

But HE needs your support!!

You got that backwards. Worship is for our benefit, not His.

Yes because blindly following people ALWAYS goes well lol...

a reply to: LoneWrecche

the " logic " of your premise falls flat when discussing the christian // judaic " god "

get back to me when your realise why

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: LoneWrecche

the " logic " of your premise falls flat when discussing the christian // judaic " god "

get back to me when your realise why

I'm back.

I was being facetious hence the logic is likely lost in the way the Ori forced people to submit, proselytize, or kill the unbeliever. As with the real world god, it's power comes from worship out of fear. Not belief.

a reply to: Akragon
If you are talking about the Biblical God, what evidence have you got that he requires worship?
Statements on the subject come in the form "We should worship him", not "You should worship me".
What he does require, as found in the first commandment, is commitment.

It's not the smartest thing to build your personal philosophy on what you see on TV.
Only politicians needs your energy like this

the God of the bible doesnt need worship.....worship is like love.....its a circle.....everything we give goes to God and comes back to us again via the circuit of connectedness....

and what is worship anyway? isnt it awe? isnt it adoration? we worship all kinds of things freely....but all of the sudden when its God we want to ask why it deserves worship when it created us?

LOL

No. Not require as in need to survive.

But

If the stories of a conflict between heaven and hell or good / evil are true then it might be necessary. Necessary as a way to find where human allegiances lay and therefore who to let in and out who to cast out.

Assuming that God exists in the first place of course.

originally posted by: LoneWrecche
Have you not seen Stargate Atlantis? Gods need followers to worship them, or else they don't have any power. Hallowed are the Ori.

"Blessed are the true believers, for only they shall walk the Path, and they shall be welcomed unto the realm of the Ori and made as one with Them."

No, I haven't seen Stargate Atlantis - BUT - 30 years ago "Who Mourns Adonis" was a Star Trek episode where essentially, without anyone to worship him, Adonis fades from the universe. Later movies questions "Why does God need a starship?", IMO why would a god need anything (from us).

I've always wondered why God (gods) need worship - AND sacrifice! (god said to Abraham "Give Me Your Son")

ganjoa

originally posted by: NthOther

originally posted by: Akragon

But HE needs your support!!

You got that backwards. Worship is for our benefit, not His.

Then the Bible is not the word of God but the word of man. The OP is raising a great question. If we have an omnipotent creator God, why would he care one way or the other if we commit sins. An omnipotent God needs absolutely nothing from us.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: NthOther

originally posted by: Akragon

But HE needs your support!!

You got that backwards. Worship is for our benefit, not His.

Not if you are Muslim.

That's a straight up lie. In Islam, we need God but He doesn't need us. So NthOther's post is correct even for Muslims.

a reply to: Akragon

Would a god require worship?

Short answer "No" but if a demiurge anything's possible.

originally posted by: tribal
but all of the sudden when its God we want to ask why it deserves worship when it created us?

LOL

That ideology would require proof of god. There is none.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: NthOther

originally posted by: Akragon

But HE needs your support!!

You got that backwards. Worship is for our benefit, not His.

Not if you are Muslim.

That's a straight up lie. In Islam, we need God but He doesn't need us. So NthOther's post is correct even for Muslims.

In Islam, like all other religions, it's a catch 22. Worship or face punishment.

a reply to: Vector99

Nope. Islam is strictly voluntarily; the Qur'an says there is to be no compulsion in religion; and we believe that we are choosing to serve God by voluntarily following His teachings. Any "requirements" for Muslims are like saying "If you really want to be the best servant of God, then do A & B while avoiding C. D is optional, but not advised."

So the way this relates to the OP is pretty clear. None of us has to pray. It won't affect God in the least bit if no human prays. But if we want to prove that we are true followers of His and that we deserve a spot in Heaven, we would pray and follow His other teachings. Those prayers directly benefit us in the Hereafter, while sometimes providing benefits to us right here on Earth.

For example, there are some Surahs from the Qur'an which are recited when trying to "pray away" danger or fear. That doesn't benefit God in the slightest bit because those worldly dangers and fears can't harm Him, but it clearly benefits the Muslims who recite them, even if only by giving a false sense of security. There are other optional prayers that we may perform for special occasions. Once again, God doesn't need these at all. But it's our way of showing Him that we're still revering & remembering Him (and thankful to Him) even during our moments of happiness.

a reply to: tribal

We don't worship the tooth fairy or santa clause or the easter bunny.

We don't worship something that doesn't exist, unless we have psychosis.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

So the 15 punishments are made up?