a reply to: schuyler
As I recall, the term "fake news" first appeared as an attempt to discredit any discussion about Pizzagate. The usual "crazy conspiracy theorist"
label wasn't strong enough anymore. It wasn't enough to just say there was no story, the MSM felt the need to stifle any conversation on the
As to the political credibility of ATS, I don't see why a conspiracy website needs to have any political credibility. I can't think of a single
organization on Earth that I would say has political credibility. I find the term to be an oxymoron. If people on ATS want to discuss politics and
express their opinions, fine with me. We also have forums on music, sports, TV, movies, etc. No one is saying ATS is a fake music or fake sports
And I grant you, there are many conspiracy theories on ATS that I don't subscribe to. Usually, I don't pay much attention to them. I've never felt
the need to engage in a long discussion with someone about whether the Earth is flat or whether we went to the Moon or things like that. If some
people want to discuss things like that, it's fine with me. I see it like discussing Flatland, it can be intellectually stimulating. I just don't
see the harm in it.
One more thing, just because someone is "ill-educated" or "uninformed" doesn't mean they have nothing to contribute to a conversation or topic.
Everyone has a unique life experience. For my money, I'd rather listen to a WW2 vet with a 4th grade education than someone with a freshly minted
liberal arts degree.
As for the type of ATS threads I'd hang my hat on, here's a superb recent example from IgnoranceIsntBlisss:
DARK ELECTIONEERING How the DNC-MSM-RNC Work Together In Lockstep To Subvert The
I could dig through and find others, but the point is that ATS has a lot of excellent content that more than makes up for things like the Mudpit forum
and the zanier conspiracy theories like fake moon landings or honest politicians.
ATS does not warrant a "fake news" label.
First, it is not a news website. It has forums for news and current events, but it also has forums for other things. It's not a fake pets website, or
a fake automotive discussion website, or a fake news website. It is a conspiracy theory website. I, for one, do not mind wading through a few bogus
theories to find those gems that go from theory to fact.
Second, where you might see "fake" I see people expressing their opinions. I can agree with them, I can disagree with them, I could choose to not
even consider anything they say. But it's not really fake unless they don't believe what they are saying. They may be wrong, but who has never been
wrong? I used to tell people that there was no way the CIA would be bringing drugs into the US.
I would say that ATS is a very effective conspiracy website. Why, in this very thread, we have debunked the crazy conspiracy theory that ATS is a
fake news website.
ETA: Sorry if I got a little redundant, there. Got interrupted by a long phone call and lost my train of thought.
edit on 20-3-2017 by
VictorVonDoom because: (no reason given)