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originally posted by: Aliensun
Would ETIs travel virtually forever in massive ships to buzz around the galaxy visiting other species of life? Would we? Would we give up the benefits of our planet to send our days stuck on the artificiality of an immense city-like ship simple to visit another culture of life? Such a trip would not be like an ocean cruise around the world stopping at various ports every few days or weeks. Such space-going ships would see nothing but the blackness of deep space for long periods even if velocities approached the speed of light, never being able to return the world that they left. --It doesn't make much sense. Not logical according to Mr. Spock. Send machines.
Possibly they would send complex probes outward in all directions perhaps all self-contained that do not ever make direct contact with home base or maybe they can do so with quantum-based communications?
This situation pushed into present reality causes me to wonder if all of the interactions with ETIs and UFOs in our present world are not really real, but are machine based, complex machines to be sure, created by powers and concepts that and we, in our puny minds, cannot even begin to imagine…but are beginning to glimpse in our future.
Detractors will call out in two areas, first, those that assume that we know all about the limits to IA and cannot possibly project (really meaning “allow”) IA to ever be near godlike in thinking. (Humanity simply cannot be demeaned to that extent some would say.)
The other group would argue that we have seen multiple times the little greys of the UFOs and they are real as the ships. –Okay, consider them real, but what is “real?” After all, even to our young experience with robots and clones, we can make indicative judgments from the simple facts that they all look alike Perhaps they are biological entities cloned and grown on the spot in a few years to be representative humanoids once they arrive at a humanoid world. They seem to be of no determinable sex, either wearing no clothing or something so ubiquitous in design that there is no distinguishing characteristics, no signs of fasteners, closures, ornamentation or sign of individuality or rank. In essence come across as products off an assembly line. Cognitively, they match their physical appearances. The total impression conveyed is that they are irreproachable. Evidently, made to order for the work at hand that is, actually, a “hands on” approach necessary for the specific and individual work that they perform. A biological assistant to the major machine running the operation which is, of course, a quantum computer master.
. On an insectoid world at another stop across the galaxy, they may be put away or eliminated and a tailor made creature cloned from local DNA to have six legs, stalk antenna and an exoskeleton. Regardless, all interactions with the locals are carefully tuned to what is within the parameters of expected reactions from the locals. The oft-mentioned “shape shifters” becomes possible via a vastly different interpretation of the word.
Being AI hosts, there is no definite time-line expected from the encounters. The AI does not care about such trivial things such as time. It has a definite agenda, a mission to complete. How it responds to the creatures on the planet will depend upon the locals and its own determinations. Perhaps it has basic directives to teach and impose or perhaps it works entirely with what it determines are to the benefit of the locals given their particular and, of course, unique situation. It primary task, then, is to simply learn from what its sensors pick up from below. Eventually, it charts a path for the advancement of the planet toward higher states. This then, is its reason for being, not to simply observe and collect data, or to eat the inhabitants or take them into slavery, but to advance them along a pathway that probably most being lose sight of as they climb out of the jungles and seas to take on the universe.
The purpose here has been to explore in common words and descriptions what may or may not be the entire base for the majority of UFO reports, especially those that do the abductions. It well be that our assumptions that actual ETIs are present in our vicinity and working with us in multiple ways is an illusion that their powerful computers and equipment has created exactly for the purpose of providing a facade such that we cannot glimpse the wizard behind the screen pulling the levers. Perhaps it would be right that we should not gain that knowledge. As it would mean that extreme Artificial Intelligence already was here and in basic control of our lives and destiny. That would be a worse realization than if the ETIs were here in the flesh.
It well do to look deeply into this thread from Friday cited below as it comes From Wright-Patterson Air Force facility which is much more than merely an air base in Ohio. It was, supposedly, the original receipt of the alien remains from the Roswell UFO crash in 1947. It may be that they learned more about AI from that crash than any single aspect of computer possibilities before or since that time.
originally posted by: frenchfries
It looks like they are patrolling and protecting (seen by vulcano's , radioactive nuclear ) ! So they are either FTLing really fast or they are very close..
originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Skywatcher2011
I thought there was a live entity piloting the UFO that crashed in New Mexico in 1948?
Or it could have been an Area 51 pilot/employee who messed up in their flight. Or it could have been fake news.
I think if we're being visited by Extraterrestrial Craft they are, in all likelihood, drones