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Are UFOs Piloted by Beings or Computers

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posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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Would ETIs travel virtually forever in massive ships to buzz around the galaxy visiting other species of life? Would we? Would we give up the benefits of our planet to send our days stuck on the artificiality of an immense city-like ship simple to visit another culture of life? Such a trip would not be like an ocean cruise around the world stopping at various ports every few days or weeks. Such space-going ships would see nothing but the blackness of deep space for long periods even if velocities approached the speed of light, never being able to return the world that they left. --It doesn't make much sense. Not logical according to Mr. Spock. Send machines.

Possibly they would send complex probes outward in all directions perhaps all self-contained that do not ever make direct contact with home base or maybe they can do so with quantum-based communications?

This situation pushed into present reality causes me to wonder if all of the interactions with ETIs and UFOs in our present world are not really real, but are machine based, complex machines to be sure, created by powers and concepts that and we, in our puny minds, cannot even begin to imagine…but are beginning to glimpse in our future.

Detractors will call out in two areas, first, those that assume that we know all about the limits to IA and cannot possibly project (really meaning “allow”) IA to ever be near godlike in thinking. (Humanity simply cannot be demeaned to that extent some would say.)

The other group would argue that we have seen multiple times the little greys of the UFOs and they are real as the ships. –Okay, consider them real, but what is “real?” After all, even to our young experience with robots and clones, we can make indicative judgments from the simple facts that they all look alike Perhaps they are biological entities cloned and grown on the spot in a few years to be representative humanoids once they arrive at a humanoid world. They seem to be of no determinable sex, either wearing no clothing or something so ubiquitous in design that there is no distinguishing characteristics, no signs of fasteners, closures, ornamentation or sign of individuality or rank. In essence come across as products off an assembly line. Cognitively, they match their physical appearances. The total impression conveyed is that they are irreproachable. Evidently, made to order for the work at hand that is, actually, a “hands on” approach necessary for the specific and individual work that they perform. A biological assistant to the major machine running the operation which is, of course, a quantum computer master.

. On an insectoid world at another stop across the galaxy, they may be put away or eliminated and a tailor made creature cloned from local DNA to have six legs, stalk antenna and an exoskeleton. Regardless, all interactions with the locals are carefully tuned to what is within the parameters of expected reactions from the locals. The oft-mentioned “shape shifters” becomes possible via a vastly different interpretation of the word.


Being AI hosts, there is no definite time-line expected from the encounters. The AI does not care about such trivial things such as time. It has a definite agenda, a mission to complete. How it responds to the creatures on the planet will depend upon the locals and its own determinations. Perhaps it has basic directives to teach and impose or perhaps it works entirely with what it determines are to the benefit of the locals given their particular and, of course, unique situation. It primary task, then, is to simply learn from what its sensors pick up from below. Eventually, it charts a path for the advancement of the planet toward higher states. This then, is its reason for being, not to simply observe and collect data, or to eat the inhabitants or take them into slavery, but to advance them along a pathway that probably most being lose sight of as they climb out of the jungles and seas to take on the universe.

The purpose here has been to explore in common words and descriptions what may or may not be the entire base for the majority of UFO reports, especially those that do the abductions. It well be that our assumptions that actual ETIs are present in our vicinity and working with us in multiple ways is an illusion that their powerful computers and equipment has created exactly for the purpose of providing a facade such that we cannot glimpse the wizard behind the screen pulling the levers. Perhaps it would be right that we should not gain that knowledge. As it would mean that extreme Artificial Intelligence already was here and in basic control of our lives and destiny. That would be a worse realization than if the ETIs were here in the flesh.

It well do to look deeply into this thread from Friday cited below as it comes From Wright-Patterson Air Force facility which is much more than merely an air base in Ohio. It was, supposedly, the original receipt of the alien remains from the Roswell UFO crash in 1947. It may be that they learned more about AI from that crash than any single aspect of computer possibilities before or since that time.
wwwabovetopsecret.com...




posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 09:54 AM
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Probably like us as some are Manned and some are drones/droids. youtu.be...



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 09:55 AM
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originally posted by: Aliensun


Would ETIs travel virtually forever in massive ships to buzz around the galaxy visiting other species of life? Would we? Would we give up the benefits of our planet to send our days stuck on the artificiality of an immense city-like ship simple to visit another culture of life? Such a trip would not be like an ocean cruise around the world stopping at various ports every few days or weeks. Such space-going ships would see nothing but the blackness of deep space for long periods even if velocities approached the speed of light, never being able to return the world that they left. --It doesn't make much sense. Not logical according to Mr. Spock. Send machines.

Possibly they would send complex probes outward in all directions perhaps all self-contained that do not ever make direct contact with home base or maybe they can do so with quantum-based communications?

This situation pushed into present reality causes me to wonder if all of the interactions with ETIs and UFOs in our present world are not really real, but are machine based, complex machines to be sure, created by powers and concepts that and we, in our puny minds, cannot even begin to imagine…but are beginning to glimpse in our future.

Detractors will call out in two areas, first, those that assume that we know all about the limits to IA and cannot possibly project (really meaning “allow”) IA to ever be near godlike in thinking. (Humanity simply cannot be demeaned to that extent some would say.)

The other group would argue that we have seen multiple times the little greys of the UFOs and they are real as the ships. –Okay, consider them real, but what is “real?” After all, even to our young experience with robots and clones, we can make indicative judgments from the simple facts that they all look alike Perhaps they are biological entities cloned and grown on the spot in a few years to be representative humanoids once they arrive at a humanoid world. They seem to be of no determinable sex, either wearing no clothing or something so ubiquitous in design that there is no distinguishing characteristics, no signs of fasteners, closures, ornamentation or sign of individuality or rank. In essence come across as products off an assembly line. Cognitively, they match their physical appearances. The total impression conveyed is that they are irreproachable. Evidently, made to order for the work at hand that is, actually, a “hands on” approach necessary for the specific and individual work that they perform. A biological assistant to the major machine running the operation which is, of course, a quantum computer master.

. On an insectoid world at another stop across the galaxy, they may be put away or eliminated and a tailor made creature cloned from local DNA to have six legs, stalk antenna and an exoskeleton. Regardless, all interactions with the locals are carefully tuned to what is within the parameters of expected reactions from the locals. The oft-mentioned “shape shifters” becomes possible via a vastly different interpretation of the word.


Being AI hosts, there is no definite time-line expected from the encounters. The AI does not care about such trivial things such as time. It has a definite agenda, a mission to complete. How it responds to the creatures on the planet will depend upon the locals and its own determinations. Perhaps it has basic directives to teach and impose or perhaps it works entirely with what it determines are to the benefit of the locals given their particular and, of course, unique situation. It primary task, then, is to simply learn from what its sensors pick up from below. Eventually, it charts a path for the advancement of the planet toward higher states. This then, is its reason for being, not to simply observe and collect data, or to eat the inhabitants or take them into slavery, but to advance them along a pathway that probably most being lose sight of as they climb out of the jungles and seas to take on the universe.

The purpose here has been to explore in common words and descriptions what may or may not be the entire base for the majority of UFO reports, especially those that do the abductions. It well be that our assumptions that actual ETIs are present in our vicinity and working with us in multiple ways is an illusion that their powerful computers and equipment has created exactly for the purpose of providing a facade such that we cannot glimpse the wizard behind the screen pulling the levers. Perhaps it would be right that we should not gain that knowledge. As it would mean that extreme Artificial Intelligence already was here and in basic control of our lives and destiny. That would be a worse realization than if the ETIs were here in the flesh.

It well do to look deeply into this thread from Friday cited below as it comes From Wright-Patterson Air Force facility which is much more than merely an air base in Ohio. It was, supposedly, the original receipt of the alien remains from the Roswell UFO crash in 1947. It may be that they learned more about AI from that crash than any single aspect of computer possibilities before or since that time.
wwwabovetopsecret.com...



Everything you mentioned is limited by the extent of our youthful and only "Earthly" knowledge right now...who say E.T.s "travel" at all? Who says "they" are a "they"...or "them"...or anything even close?

Maybe everything exists right here, right now, from before, and currently and tomorrow? Perhaps nothing is really "alien"...but are here now, always have been in layer upon layer of dimensions...

Perhaps its just one day when we've reached or concluded a point of learning...we "see" them? We really can only think in terms of what we know...now...and admittedly...we know very little about the universe(s)...and they are billions of them in years older and ahead of our "thinking".

Thanks



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 10:21 AM
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a reply to: Aliensun

It is conceivable that older more established civilization's may have learned to circumvent the speed of light, perhaps using worm holes or other method's such as inter-dimensional travel.

With this level of technology it is also possible that a sentient race may have extended there own lives to inconceivable longevity and perhaps even merged with there technology so some UFO may not be simply vehicles but actually being's in and of themselves, in such cases they may have the ability to construct or manufacture unit's to perform the foot work for them and many occupant's may be biological machines or even android's constructed or carried for just these purpose.

Also there is the whole argument of Where they are from, perhaps even if non human there origin may be much closer to home then we assume or even from other dimension's and parallel reality's were on those other earth's other races have come into being.

Time travel which I assume in a linear sense to be relatively impossible but not inter-dimensional time travel which may be very possible - travel to an identical past to your own world but it is not your world as your very presence there dictates that from that point onward it is actually a parallel reality to your own past - in these circumstances such time/dimension travel may be a one way trip however so why would anyone really want to do so unless it was escape a future extinction event, end of the solar system for example and the wish to colonize alternate past's.

But of course Von Neuman machines, self replicating machines sent out to explore the Galaxy by an alien civilization or machine civilization do still have a distinct possibility of being a reality so YES alien drone's are a possible source of some UFO experiences while I believe most have a much closer to home explanation.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: Aliensun


I think it is reasonable to assume that some of the UFOs are 'unmanned' so to speak. But I have a hunch we are dealing with beings that are dimensional, rather than from a distant point in our space.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 03:15 PM
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To Anyone after 70 years Does it look like UFO's are even trying to contact our civilization ?

I don't think so !
It looks like they are patrolling and protecting (seen by vulcano's , radioactive nuclear ) ! So they are either FTLing really fast or they are very close..

So that tells one that they might have bases on our planet....

Drones ? Why not ? AI ?
Well to know what humans do , just go on FB me guess not that difficult but scary to imagine....



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: Aliensun
probably for the most part AI probes with maybe avatar beings (bio robots) being used to observe etc.
Then you have the jinn or djinn,shapeshifters tricksters able to form any shape of craft that will pull the wool over most who come into contact with these entities.

Heck only a couple of weeks or so and the "great one" Tom Delong is going to drop a bomb that might just answer your questions. but don't hold your breath. He says he has the lowdown on "The Phenomenon"




posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: Aliensun

First we need to capture a UFO...and THEN see if an alien flew it or was piloted by AI technology.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 09:09 PM
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a reply to: Skywatcher2011

I thought there was a live entity piloting the UFO that crashed in New Mexico in 1948?



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 09:21 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Skywatcher2011

I thought there was a live entity piloting the UFO that crashed in New Mexico in 1948?



Or it could have been an Area 51 pilot/employee who messed up in their flight. Or it could have been fake news.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 09:24 PM
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Some abductees have mentioned that they thought the Greys might be robotic.



posted on Mar, 20 2017 @ 12:34 AM
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a reply to: CirqueDeTruth

I have three dimensions.
How many do aliens have?



posted on Mar, 20 2017 @ 12:51 AM
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a reply to: Aliensun

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posted on Mar, 20 2017 @ 01:26 AM
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They are teenagers from the distant future, I tell ya, look at how they drive, fly or what ever.
There a damned menace to everybody and birds too.
Listening to than rock & roller or what ever they call it theses days and smoking those dope tubes.
Damned little gray hoodlums is what they are.
They need to be shot out of the sky on sight.

Buck



posted on Mar, 20 2017 @ 02:24 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Think other dimensions of reality.



posted on Mar, 20 2017 @ 02:31 AM
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*IF* they are real, then probably both. We already have 'autopilot' in planes for several mundane tasks, I'm sure so do the aliens, if they exist.

And manual control, so they can, for rational reasons known only to them, fly in front of webcams and the Peruvian Air Force, it would seem....



posted on Mar, 20 2017 @ 02:34 AM
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originally posted by: frenchfries
It looks like they are patrolling and protecting (seen by vulcano's , radioactive nuclear ) ! So they are either FTLing really fast or they are very close..


There was also a UFO flying along the front of the Tsunami Wave that destroyed GFukushima before it hit land, a little black ball with a black tail behind it...

(please ignore the senationalist video title)


I only saw the one above on the news, it seems there was more...



I think if we're being visited by Extraterrestrial Craft they are, in all likelihood, drones. Similar to the manner in which we are exploring Mars and other planets (though since we have intelligent life theirs would have to be a helluva lot more covert). Perhaps, if the reports of Extraterrestrial beings are true they are from our own solar system or perhaps even our own planet...
edit on 20/3/17 by djz3ro because: I felt an apology for the title of the video I chose was appropriate...



posted on Mar, 20 2017 @ 02:35 AM
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originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Skywatcher2011

I thought there was a live entity piloting the UFO that crashed in New Mexico in 1948?



Or it could have been an Area 51 pilot/employee who messed up in their flight. Or it could have been fake news.


It's too bad they didn't take photos. Maybe cameras were hard to come by back then.



posted on Mar, 20 2017 @ 02:50 AM
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They would only be out there for long periods in space if they used our crude technology. Once you can fold space you can get anywhere in seconds.



posted on Mar, 20 2017 @ 03:02 AM
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a reply to: djz3ro

ah... interesting how could I miss that even more evidence that it's patrolling and not exploring.



I think if we're being visited by Extraterrestrial Craft they are, in all likelihood, drones


Well could be but I see the whole hype 'drone' explanation like an projection of human technology onto an unknown species. We really don' t know their tech don't we ?

Think about it at the moment we are sending 'drones' to mars , but isn't the real goal to eventually send humans ? Drones though cool don't replace the real thing.

Maybe idea of an more advanced human like civilization on this planet that is unknown to our civilization and had already disclosure isn't so far fetched. And maybe that civilization prevents any form of contact with 'Extraterestials' until humanity has evolved. I for myself have seen enough evidence that's pointing in that direction.




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