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America, All of These Problems Are Your Own Damn Fault!!!

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posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: Justonemanhink

This is the same Israel that denies the people of Palastine a nation. Denies them basic human rights, imposes sanctions, keeps them just below the poverty line, takes land, denies people clean water and bombs schools with white phosphorus.

Rhink if you where on the recieving end of that you might be a bit peed off..




posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 09:45 AM
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originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: JoshuaCox

IF you want to know who caused the DNC hacks go to the source. Wikieaks stated the hack did not come from a state.. In over ten years of publishing they have yet to publish a false story. Ten years of verifable objective fact pulblication.

Where did you get your sources from..?


He got them from inside his own head. they're what he wants to believe.

Not a single shred of evidence of Russian collusion.

Shady meetings? BOTH campaigns met with Russian officials. It's pretty standard to meet with the people you may be dealing with after you win.

Putin's own people have said that they met with the Clinton campaign. Why isn't that an issue?

Oh, it's because she didn't win.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 09:45 AM
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originally posted by: trustmeimdoctor
a reply to: SmilingROB

Screw Isreal. We give them a ton of support and they kill people. Why the hell should we continue to support them?


The US continues to support for the same reason it supports Saudi Arabia.. They want the middle east divided. Its easier to control desperate people.

Have a look at the podesta leaks in which they talk about SA paying for ISIS. Its a game of destabilisation.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Fine then I would know your thoughts on that form of government.
Other than the fact they liked blond hair and cooked Jews I know next to next nothing about their guiding principle.

Thanks for your input.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: [post=22028420]JoshuaCox[ i don't believe trump made any deal with putin. i think he knws its better to be friends with the other top dog out there instead of being enemies. i believe all the talk about russia being in bed with trump was just a diversion to get away from facts. hillary lost the election because she was to smug . they had their dirty laundry aired and we the people saw it and made our choice. they did not even try to deny what was posted in those emails if they had been mine i would have lied my butt off and denounced them as fakes the whole time . yes our problems are coaused by our gov and the clowns who run it. i am praying trump isn't as bad as clowns of the past . so far he seems to be on right track but he is dealing with Resistance from obama left overs.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: Justoneman

They aren't defending themselves against anything they didn't cause. I think you need to rethink your position on defending one of the worst terrorist states in history.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: luciferslight

I though we were to explore who the mysterious overlords are. The "they" that is so often referred to.

If we are just discussing history and political philosophy i'll still participate. I just want clarity of about what the goal is.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: SmilingROB

The goal in my opinion is to wake the f**k up and stop believing this political nonsense that only serves those that stand to profit off said nonsense.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Justonemanhink

This is the same Israel that denies the people of Palastine a nation. Denies them basic human rights, imposes sanctions, keeps them just below the poverty line, takes land, denies people clean water and bombs schools with white phosphorus.

Rhink if you where on the recieving end of that you might be a bit peed off..


The same Palestine that belonged to Jordan , Lebanon and Syria roughly did not exist as a country to my knowledge. Genocide of the Jews in Europe by Hitler was supported by the ME nations.. Tough decision to bring them back home to Jerusalem is why they jumped them in the 7 day war.

Here is what history has for Palestine in the 20th Century:
www.google.com... rc=umUfBiPqJzugsM:



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: trustmeimdoctor
a reply to: Justoneman

They aren't defending themselves against anything they didn't cause. I think you need to rethink your position on defending one of the worst terrorist states in history.


So they caused Hitler and then caused the Europeans to help them set up their homeland the Romans took is your spin? I think haters will hate no matter and Israel was a real nation unlike Palestine,,, Philistine was the nation in the Bible.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: trustmeimdoctor
a reply to: SmilingROB

The goal in my opinion is to wake the f**k up and stop believing this political nonsense that only serves those that stand to profit off said nonsense.

100% agree with your comment here.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 10:17 AM
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At a minimum vote.

If you want to help change people's mind find a local politician you like and help him.

If you want help select a party leader get involved in as a delagate.

If you want a chance to change opinions and policies run as a candidate at level of government you are comfortable with.

If you want to be president paint your hair orange and tell every little christian lady you meet that you will punish all the young girls for being whores.

I think I slipped up on that last one.

Each and every one you is political aware. Advocate, participate but don't sit there and master bate.

Again my phone and that word.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: SmilingROB

We need more people that are even aware of the issue. I do try, but I am not a politician. I cannot be that fake. I am about truth, freedom, and justice above all. Screw all of the bullsh*t.



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

Damn muzzleflash...

S&F



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: khnum

Ah a threat. Did it make you feel righteous ?

Well you get an extra virgin in the after life?

Will another man beat your son and take your wife?



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: poncho1982

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: JoshuaCox

IF you want to know who caused the DNC hacks go to the source. Wikieaks stated the hack did not come from a state.. In over ten years of publishing they have yet to publish a false story. Ten years of verifable objective fact pulblication.

Where did you get your sources from..?


Then why were both manifort and Flynn fired for Russian connections??

Why did Sessions and Flynn both lie about having secret meetings?

Why did Flynn get outted as a agent for turkey, a Russian puppet state??

Why was trumps only change to the GOP party platform , that the us would not give military aid to Ukraine???

Why didn't he add maternity leave, or transgender bathrooms or his trade position or any of the other mountain of anti republican positions trump holds??


And all of that amid rampant rumors that trump was secretly working with/for putin??!?!

Wouldn't you or I do anything we could to avoid looking like a russian puppet if it wasn't true???











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posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: poncho1982

So q competing forien government said it so it must be true...

Everyone knows Russia is far more trustworthy than every single US intelligence agency...

Are you a Russian or an American???



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: poncho1982

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: JoshuaCox

IF you want to know who caused the DNC hacks go to the source. Wikieaks stated the hack did not come from a state.. In over ten years of publishing they have yet to publish a false story. Ten years of verifable objective fact pulblication.

Where did you get your sources from..?


He got them from inside his own head. they're what he wants to believe.

Not a single shred of evidence of Russian collusion.

Shady meetings? BOTH campaigns met with Russian officials. It's pretty standard to meet with the people you may be dealing with after you win.

Putin's own people have said that they met with the Clinton campaign. Why isn't that an issue?

Oh, it's because she didn't win.


Everything I listed (except the part about Russia recording the meeting) is well known and not denied by trump..

You don't have to fabricate info on this one.. it has all been right there for the world to see...

If all of those things are just a random coincidence, then it is almost a full fledged miracle..



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko



So you turn around and find out that in order to make government your own personal mommy and daddy so that you don't have to take responsibility for yourself anymore, you likewise gave it the power to try to take responsibility for people in other countries to tell them how to live too. After all, if government is wonderful at arranging your life, then it must be absolutely fabulous at doing it for those losers in Whatchamake-a or Suckistan or even the Rupublic of Nukyahifyaktuchmee.

Tired and lame. You earlier defended nation meddling and government toppling - now with this?


And when your government has that kind of power, the psychopaths who like running everyone's lives gravitate toward it like flies to honey. So you don't actually ever get "the right people" in charge of it either.

From the people who support a philosophy of personal responsibility we now get a complete abdication of personal responsibility

Lo and behold! Gaze upon all that we have wrought - and then let's just please try to be a little more honest about it all. We did this, past and present - together

The OP really went to town, and god love him he covered a lot of territory :-)

There's a point here, or another one there I could argue with - but why bother? These choices we've made each come with their reasons and justifications. We could debate each one - good and bad. This country has done an awful lot of good in the world too - we could argue about that as well. I'm just sick of the rationalizing. It's time this country (left right and whatever) starts taking responsibility for it's decisions and it's behavior


edit on 3/19/2017 by Spiramirabilis because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 19 2017 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: SmilingROB
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Fine then I would know your thoughts on that form of government.
Other than the fact they liked blond hair and cooked Jews I know next to next nothing about their guiding principle.

Thanks for your input.


A dictator with absolute power who uses force to control his opponents.

Obviously that sounds pretty horrible..

But where they pull the wool over people's eyes is when they start throwing unrelated things in that basket..

For example:

Mousillini was a fascist. Mousillini regulated the Italian auto industry, so regulating the auto industry must be fascism..

So I completely disregard any buzz words from ether party..

When the left says X is racist..I actually look at whatever and see if it was racist..

When the right says Y is socialism, I actually look at the policy, because half of every economy/government is socialism..


Hitler breathed too , that does not make everyone who breaths a nazi..



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