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originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: The angel of light
A century Ago Radiant Angel of Peace at Portugal appeared to three Children shepherds
"Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true." - Demosthenes
originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: tbchugs
Excuse me , when you refer to Jesus in your so extense reply are you talking about the Historic Jesus of Nazareth , who lived in Palestine around 7 BC to 33 AD? Under the name of Joshua Bar Joseph ?
I just want to be sure we are taking in the same context, since the ideas you have expressed look completely unorthodox about what the Christian traditions and the Historians said about his teachings and facts.
I don't recognize where are coming the assumptions you are here bringing, what are the sources of your claims?
What is the connection of all that stuff and the apparitions of Fatima , Portugal, occurred in 1916 and 1917?
Thanks
The Angel of Lightness
On April 7, 1912 Leedskalnin arrived in New York City. After looking for suitable work at the East Coast till August, he relocated to the Pacific Northwest, which experienced a lumbering boom. On June 5, 1917 he filled in his draft registration in Oregon stating that he was self-employed and engaged in ax-handle manufacturing. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Leedskalnin
This collection of intellectuals and eccentric patriots believed it was necessary to return to some mythical German past in order to unite all the peoples of Germany behind the war. In the immediate shock of the defeat and revolutions of 1918-1919, the Thule Society became even more insistent that Germany's rebirth must come through spiritual and symbolic manifestations. bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/his/CoreArt/prop/ns_thule.html
originally posted by: Willtell
After five consecutive appearances from May 13 1917, to September 13, at the final one on October 13 there were thousands of witnesses to these extraordinary events.
I personally believe that the Spiritual Body of Light associated with Mary and Mary Magdalene ascended to this earth in the early 20th century and even the famous Rennes Le Château mystery has something to do with the Fatima events.
Rennes-le-Château is mysterious in the sense that it has been cut off from the march of time and has barely changed over the last few centuries.
From 1209, for some 40 years, on the express orders of Pope Innocent III, an, 'extermination occurred on so vast, so terrible a scale, it may well constitute the first case of genocide in modern European history.'
The agents of the massacre were an army of some 30,000 knights and foot-soldiers from Northern Europe.
Their victims: almost the entire 'Cathari' or Albigensian population of the Languedoc region of what is today southern France.
bibliotecapleyades.net/merovingians/merovingios_renneschateau02.htm
originally posted by: glend
originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: The angel of light
A century Ago Radiant Angel of Peace at Portugal appeared to three Children shepherds
"Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true." - Demosthenes
Yet the greater part of our daily actions are the result of hidden motives which escape our observation (Gustave Le Bon).
Given we cannot prove self-deceit on witnesses no longer alive,
what hidden motives drove you to quote Demosthenes in this thread?
I sometimes find myself guilty in attacking the Christian faith
If I have made wrong assumptions on your motives
originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: glend
originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: The angel of light
A century Ago Radiant Angel of Peace at Portugal appeared to three Children shepherds
"Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true." - Demosthenes
Yet the greater part of our daily actions are the result of hidden motives which escape our observation (Gustave Le Bon).
Agreed, especially in the self-unaware.
Given we cannot prove self-deceit on witnesses no longer alive,
We do not need to 'prove' anything.
Psychology is the same whether millennia ago, or today.
If someone, ever, claims to witness that which is physically, logically impossible, the natural and best theory in explanation would be Demosthenes quote.
To assume/believe that this one actually witnessed the impossible, takes another emotionally needy 'believer'.
what hidden motives drove you to quote Demosthenes in this thread?
None at all.
I quoted it because it was the best theory/explanation for the 'observed phenomenon' from a scientific/philosophical Perspective.
I offered some insight into human psychology, for the benefit of any capable of understanding it.
I sometimes find myself guilty in attacking the Christian faith
Xtian 'belief', Xtian tradition, Xtian dogma... perhaps, but 'Faith' is very different than egoic intellectual 'beliefs'.
Yes, one can transcend 'ego/beliefs' to become Enlightened/Love (all 'religions' have their mystics), but one has also transcended the 'religion' at that time.
Love heals (a 'belief infection').
If I have made wrong assumptions on your motives
My motive was altruistic and enjoyable, to share truth, wisdom, experience beyond the common pale.
Perhaps to initiate some self-exploration/Knowledge, some food for thought.
Nothing more than that. *__-
originally posted by: glend
Thank you nameless for your detailed explanation. I did indeed misread you, my apoligies.
The best explanation for observed phenomenon... from a scientific/philosophical perspective is that our ego is all there is,
that the spiritual world is a figment of delusional thought.
It doesn't exist.
But if the spiritual world has touched me personally does that mean I am delusional because I cannot give others empirical evidence to prove my beliefs.
So I see Demosthenes quote or Occams razor, a cop out. Yes it might prove right 99% of the time, but couldn't the real magic in our earthly existance, exist within the shadows, the 1%.
So I give the Angel of Portugal the benefit of the doubt. Its our everyday reality I question.
Epistle to Henry II
This, this calculation of mine, collected from the holy writ, comes to about 4,173 years and 8 months, more or less. Because there is such a diversity of sects, I will not go beyond Jesus Christ.
I have calculated the present prophecies according to the order of the chain which contains its revolution, all by astronomical doctrine modified by my natural instinct. After a while, I found the time when Saturn turns to enter on April 7 till August 25, Jupiter on June 14 till October 7, Mars from April 17 to June 22, Venus from April 9 to May 22, Mercury from February 3 to February 24. After that, from June 1 to June 24, and from September 25 to October 16, Saturn in Capricorn, Jupiter in Aquarius, Mars in Scorpio, Venus in Pisces, Mercury for a month in Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces, the Moon in Aquarius, the Dragon's head in Libra: its tail in opposition following a conjunction of Jupiter and Mercury with a quadrature of Mars and Mercury, and the Dragon's head coinciding with a conjunction of the Sun and Jupiter. And the year without an eclipse peaceful
originally posted by: 2012newstart
It makes sense to me a possible connection of the Third Secret (real) to the Planet X Nibiru passage as described by ancient Sumerian texts.
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I do not have the answer and do not pretend to have it. But after 100 years of speculation, with all options exhausted, it is a time we open ourselves to options that are not found in scholarly works of people who after all defended the status quo for so long time. Because the status quo kept them in position for so long time. While the common catholics/christians were invited to make sacrifices out of their entire lives. Just too much of a lie!
Isn't it bvetter the people in the know just tell us the real picture, as the heaven demanded in 1960, and the ways we can get out of it? If it is Nibiru after all, is there a way to board the approaching planet (between the sun and the earth at its closest contact) that according to some insiders like Bob Dean is habitable. Whatever it is, the point of not telling the people until they die, as shown in the landmark movie 2012 with St Peter's falling on the faithful while they prayed instead of run, is ill conceived one. There will be responsible people for that and the history won;t be merciful to them, even if God forgives them and they save their souls.
But after being surprised sometimes by day while in a trance, and having long fallen into the habit of agreeable nocturnal studies, I have composed books of prophecies, each containing one hundred astronomical quatrains, which I want to condense somewhat obscurely. The work comprises prophecies from today to the year 3797. -Preface to Cesar, Nostradamus
For before war ends the century and in its final stages it will hold the century under its sway. Some countries will be in the grip of revolution for several years, and others ruined for a still longer period. And now that we are in a republican era, with Almighty God's aid, and before completing its full cycle, the monarchy will return, then the Golden Age. For according to the celestial signs, the Golden Age shall return, and after all calculations, with the world near to an all-encompassing revolution - from the time of writing 177 years 3 months 11 days - plague, long famine and wars, and still more floods from now until the stated time. Before and after these, humanity shall several times be so severely diminished that scarcely anyone shall be found who wishes to take over the fields, which shall become free where they had previously been tied. -Preface to Cesar, Nostradamus
originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: glend
a reply to: namelesss
Thanks namelesss.
With Love! *__-
When you hear that the Russians have captured the city of Crimea, you should know that the times of the Messiah have started, that his steps are being heard. And when you hear that the Russians have reached the city of Constantinople (now Istanbul), you should put on your Shabbat (Sabbath) clothes and don’t take them off, because it means that the Messiah is about to come any minute.
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St. Pope Pius X's vision 1914 (whose name was Giuseppe or Joseph in English) was Pope in (1903-1914) prayed with Franciscan Friars and went into a trance. When he got out of it & he said, "I have seen one of my successors, of the same name, who was fleeing over the dead bodies of his brethren. He will take refuge in some hiding place; but after a brief respite, he will die a cruel death." There is no other Pope who is named Joseph, except Pope Benedict XVI. There are several prophetic references on this site indicating that Russia will invade Europe. What will those who say that Russia's consecration has been accepted, exclaim when they witness the Russian invasion of Europe and see Pope Benedict XVI on the run and dying a cruel death?
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originally posted by: glend
originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: glend
a reply to: namelesss
Thanks namelesss.
With Love! *__-
I was day dreaming this morning of compression (I am from computer background) and then holography, in which any part of a holigram can represent the whole but with loss of clarity. Then I had a thought. If the universe is a hologram (holographic universe theory) of the creator then we are part of the whole as well, with a loss of clarity.
Genesis states man (son or atman) is made in the image of God (Father or Brahman). Part of a riddle attributed to Jesus in Gospel of Thomas to achieve enligntenment (enter the kingdom) states ... when you make the inner (son or atman) like the outer (Father or Brahman) and the outer (Father or Brahman) like the inner (son or atman).
Realizing we are in Gods image is a step to freedom from the bondage of our ego.
It did feel important to me at the time.