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Dutch elections: Turkish minister claims 'holy wars will soon begin in Europe' after Geert Wilders

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posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

A sad part in history is defeating commies often takes a populace uniting under a strongman dictator, and the people have to roll the dice that the strongman will give up power once he is no longer needed.




posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 11:05 PM
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By the day the meme becomes reality
deus vult



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 12:11 AM
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Besides all kinds of funny jokes one can write about Wilders, the Turkish government and so on ... I would ask Merkel one question .... How's the migrant deal going?



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 12:16 AM
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originally posted by: TobyFlenderson


A Turkish minister has claimed "holy wars will soon begin" in Europe, in spite of the defeat of far-right leader Geert Wilders in the Netherlands elections.

Mevlut Cavusoglu, Turkey’s foreign minister, did not welcome the victory for Prime Minister Mark Rutte’s centre-right People’s Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD).

“Now the election is over in the Netherlands...when you look at the many parties you see there is no difference between the social democrats and fascist Wilders,” he said according to a translation by Hurriyet.

“All have the same mentality. Where will you go? Where are you taking Europe? You have begun to collapse Europe. You are dragging Europe into the abyss. Holy wars will soon begin in Europe.”

Dutch elections: Turkish minister claims 'holy wars will soon begin in Europe' after Geert Wilders beaten

This is highly concerning to me. You have a high level official in a majority Islamic nation predicting a religious war in Europe. Turkey is also a member of NATO and until recently has been mostly secular. Erdogan has continued to consolidate power and is striving to be a dictator. I'm really not sure what additional red flags are necessary for European leaders to stop the unbridled flow of immigration. This is scary stuff.


I'm pretty sure, at least in practical terms, Erdogan has been a dictator for some time now. As far as stopping the wave of migration, yeah they should. They should also prioritize actual refugees and punish those filing many welfare claims under various identities. The problem is that the damage has already been done. On top of that there are something like 5.5mn Turkish citizens residing in Europe. Many are in Germany and since at least the end of WWII there have been many of Turkish descent there.(A mosque in Munich is a great read on this topic BTW)

It seems as if the minister isn't so much predicting a religious war but is rather attempting to incite one. NATO needs to take a very hard line on Turkey. Another problem arises however, they are the only US/NATO ally in the ME. Some will say Israel is our best friend in the region but IMO that is pure BS. Israel cares only about Israel and no one else. Not even their large benefactors. I think the worry with Turkey is that they will look east to Russia(or perhaps China as well) as Egypt did after the "military coup".



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 02:04 AM
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originally posted by: BloodStainedGlass
Killing for religion, something I don't understand~Dave Mustaine

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Christianity and Islam are being used. They are being used to rid the world of Religion, systematically. The prophesied Holy War is being used. Flood countries with violent extremist and let the blood flow, once both forces have been significantly weakened, only then will a coup d'etat be legitimately feasible. Whichever is the last religion standing will have shown the world where religion has brought us and they too will then be eliminated. Just my two cents.


Yea, sad, but I pretty much agree.

Gotta shatter the beloved delusion that God and/or Jesus will finally one day come down from heaven to create a new perfect world.

That's the real revelation, I guess.



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 02:20 AM
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originally posted by: BloodStainedGlass

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: BloodStainedGlass

It's not about religion, it's not some global agenda being played out, it's just what always is if a huge war starts:
The people in power are crazy idiots.

I am inclined to both agree and disagree. There is a global agenda and that is to usurp the throne of a higher power. The elite have realized that they cannot have their way with mere science and philosophy, so now things will have to get ugly. Through subversive migrant flooding they will have indirectly kicked off a holy war in which there will be no winners and the only spoil is to publicly display where religion has brought us as a civilization and by doing so to lead mankind away from the higher power into the clutches of madness.


Ah more wisdom, it seems to me, from BloodStainedGlass.
Hey usurp the throne of a higher power.
Isn't that what the golden rule is really about?
Narrow gate against broad way...
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posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 04:47 AM
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originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
a reply to: TobyFlenderson

where have you been living? The holy war started a long time ago. Don't you remember all the attacks in Europe to date since 2001?



Mohamad and his Islamic commands to his followers has been at war with everyone since 622.

But on topic, the more we have living amongst us the bloodier it will be for all of us, so if its going to happen better sooner rather than later.



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 07:16 AM
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When playing a ball game, and I throw the ball at you, you either let the ball fall on the ground or you pick it up and play!
Geert Wilders, during this week has revealed what he is, and what I suspected him to be: a gatekeeper!



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 07:36 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: 727Sky


Yep, you are right, and Obama as President has been helping, and was counting on Muslim extremists to help further the globalist goals of Obama and other globalists.

At around 2:22 after political commentator Dinesh D'Souza emphasizes that Obama's policies have helped in the global redistribution of American wealth, he goes on to explain how Obama has also been using the Muslim Brotherhood as a tool in furthering the globalist agenda.

If you don't want to watch anything else, start watching at 2 minutes 22 seconds the following video.




That was a informative video. His half brother was the coin collector for the MB on record... But who cares to notice



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 07:45 AM
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originally posted by: BloodStainedGlass
Killing for religion, something I don't understand~Dave Mustaine

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Christianity and Islam are being used. They are being used to rid the world of Religion, systematically. The prophesied Holy War is being used. Flood countries with violent extremist and let the blood flow, once both forces have been significantly weakened, only then will a coup d'etat be legitimately feasible. Whichever is the last religion standing will have shown the world where religion has brought us and they too will then be eliminated. Just my two cents.


Odd...this is the second thread I have read this morning referencing Megadeth or Mustaine...one was about aliens.

I am a believer in synchronicity so I find this a bit unusual as these 2 threads have nothing in common.



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 08:19 AM
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...was a message of mystery to the secular media, but a clear message to the Muslim Sufi world.

These can comprehend that Turkey will become the temple of Allah who will be Erdoğan, while the Turks will transfer to becoming these warrior “Ababeel” birds defending Erdoğan’s temple.

Yılmaz kicked off his utterances weeping and lamenting the loss of Abdulhamid II, the last Caliph of Islam prophesying that the outcome of the referendum on April 16 next month will fulfill a hadith:

“The Hadith by prophet Muhammad is about to be fulfilled with victory on April 16”.
A portion of the clip was translated by Turkish Minute:

 


The “head” according to Yilmaz, is to be revived and the wound healed. ... the whole interview where Yilmaz was weeping in front of the camera saying: “Those who want to take Turkey back [to secularism], neither their vassals, nor their lives can save them.” “Turkey will become Beit-u-Allah. On April 16, vote ‘YES’ to the referendum means to be an Ababeel bird in Beit-u-Allah” said Yilmaz.


Allow me to explain all this. Beit-u-Allah is none other than the Kaaba, the House of Allah himself. But this is located in Saudi Arabia. Yilmaz is now saying that it will be symbolically or even literally re-stationed in Turkey. “Türkiye gitti mi Beytullah gider” he said in Turkish, which literally means: “Yes, Beit-u-Allah goes to Turkey”.



link: shoebat.com... amic-empire-the-islamic-antichrist-will-declare-himself-to-be-god-and-war-agai/

Ababeel... these are birds which were directed by Allah... to pelt the War Elephants which were being used to defeat Islam

the 'Ababeel' is the prophetic fulfillment of the 'Green Birds' foretold by the 2012 Maya Prophecies about the changes coming to Earth

the 'Ababeel' will morph into a Erdogan Army of zealots... Europe will be laid waste as in the Vanga predictions, Fatima forecasts and the layman's common sense logic


 



I recall the post I replied in, about 5 years ago... commenting that the 'Green Birds' of the Maya prophecy has connections to world-wide Terrorism and much has to take place before the 'Green Birds' arise as warned about by the Mayan predictions revealed in 2012

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posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 09:18 AM
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Can't we just drone him?™



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 10:19 AM
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originally posted by: St Udio
a reply to: TobyFlenderson






...was a message of mystery to the secular media, but a clear message to the Muslim Sufi world.

These can comprehend that Turkey will become the temple of Allah who will be Erdoğan, while the Turks will transfer to becoming these warrior “Ababeel” birds defending Erdoğan’s temple.

Yılmaz kicked off his utterances weeping and lamenting the loss of Abdulhamid II, the last Caliph of Islam prophesying that the outcome of the referendum on April 16 next month will fulfill a hadith:

“The Hadith by prophet Muhammad is about to be fulfilled with victory on April 16”.
A portion of the clip was translated by Turkish Minute:

 


The “head” according to Yilmaz, is to be revived and the wound healed. ... the whole interview where Yilmaz was weeping in front of the camera saying: “Those who want to take Turkey back [to secularism], neither their vassals, nor their lives can save them.” “Turkey will become Beit-u-Allah. On April 16, vote ‘YES’ to the referendum means to be an Ababeel bird in Beit-u-Allah” said Yilmaz.


Allow me to explain all this. Beit-u-Allah is none other than the Kaaba, the House of Allah himself. But this is located in Saudi Arabia. Yilmaz is now saying that it will be symbolically or even literally re-stationed in Turkey. “Türkiye gitti mi Beytullah gider” he said in Turkish, which literally means: “Yes, Beit-u-Allah goes to Turkey”.



link: shoebat.com... amic-empire-the-islamic-antichrist-will-declare-himself-to-be-god-and-war-agai/

Ababeel... these are birds which were directed by Allah... to pelt the War Elephants which were being used to defeat Islam

the 'Ababeel' is the prophetic fulfillment of the 'Green Birds' foretold by the 2012 Maya Prophecies about the changes coming to Earth

the 'Ababeel' will morph into a Erdogan Army of zealots... Europe will be laid waste as in the Vanga predictions, Fatima forecasts and the layman's common sense logic


 



I recall the post I replied in, about 5 years ago... commenting that the 'Green Birds' of the Maya prophecy has connections to world-wide Terrorism and much has to take place before the 'Green Birds' arise as warned about by the Mayan predictions revealed in 2012



“Türkiye gitti mi Beytullah gider” he said in Turkish, which literally means: “Yes, Beit-u-Allah goes to Turkey”.

No it doesn't ; It translates as " if Turkey goes ; Beit-u-Allah goes too.".

Muslim World is getting it's act together and beginning to act in unison for their greater interest .

I rather live in an intertest free , usury free World ; only a fool prefers to live in a usurpers paradise.



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: proteus33
a reply to: Konduit

so basically they are going to invade europe. wow


They've already invaded Europe. Saudi-backed "rebels" have been toppling Middle-East regimes since 2011, putting the refugee crisis into overdrive and now that large populations of Muslims have been brought into the continent people like Erdogan are starting to show their true colors.



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 12:22 PM
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originally posted by: MisterSpock
This is all just so ridiculous.

For people like me, we are all just patiently(though frustrated) waiting for the rest to catch up.

Dump this nonsense, religion, and stop holding us all back.


Hahaha you will be begging for religion once it is revealed what is REALLY going on behind the scenes.



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy
The peaceful religion has contradicted itself once again. I guess it all boils down to a us vs them scenario. The people who see religon as the evil it really is and the blind followers like the christians and muslims who worship their imaginary gods. Our immigrants are getting restless and attack refugees left and right daily. My country is already a powderkeg and all it takes is one more spark to set it off. I will never understand how so many people could be so freaking blind to see the truth about religion. Religion is a thing of the past. Eradicate this crap once and for all and lets move on.

Being a decent human being is not that freaking hard. Who the f#ck needs a manual for that? F#ck all gods. I swear if anyone of my family comes to harm because of some religious zealot i will hunt them down and make them pay.

Maybe the world needs some kind of purge. Get rid of all evil things to build a better future for the next generation to come. We would already traverse the stars without relgion and the other crap.



You have no idea what you are talking about here...those who put the religions here are the ones responsible for all "holding back".

They will decide when and where anyone gets to change things.



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 03:21 PM
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originally posted by: St Udio
a reply to: TobyFlenderson








“Türkiye gitti mi Beytullah gider” he said in Turkish, which literally means: “Yes, Beit-u-Allah goes to Turkey”.

No it doesn't ; It translates as " if Turkey goes ; Beit-u-Allah goes too.".

Muslim World is getting it's act together and beginning to act in unison for their greater interest .

I rather live in an intertest free , usury free World ; only a fool prefers to live in a usurpers paradise.



 



thanks for the nuance lesson... I sure do not know Rurk language...


it gives me a chance to submit newer info on the earlier post... in the form of another link, but not from 'shoebat.com'


allnewspipeline.com...

just another author on the Muslim War Threat promised on the EU by these peacelovers
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posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 03:24 PM
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Yeah, ok. Gert Wildeers has 'reeaal controversial' opinions.

What a load of sh#t!!!!

Wanting to hold his country's heritage, tradition and culture in high regard.

Only a libtard would find that 'controversial'.



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 03:26 PM
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If there is a war, it will be anything but holy.

If the war is supposed to be Islam against Christianity and Judaism, then they all are either idiots or liars.

They all will have you to believe that their God was so powerful that he flooded an entire planet to cleanse it, and did a re0boot with his favorite people; but he needs us puny little, learning challenged mortals, to kill each other to bring his planet back into his order.

Oye ve!



posted on Mar, 17 2017 @ 05:18 PM
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I think this whole scenario was created by the Obama neo-cons and will ultimately be the fuse that has been lit on the Middle-East as a prelude to WWIII.


WW3 has already started! It takes time for people to realize this. This past year of my life has caused me to open my eyes to this fact.







 
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