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Why are there so many handbags depicted in ancient art? Why is this a global phenomenon?

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posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

All we can do is read into the artist thought and ideas, there are hundreds of thousands of clay tablets that are/were taken from the middle East and could tell us what this is about. But they have been "forgotten".



truthisscary.com...
The Sumerian Tablets Long before the Bible, There were the Sumerian Tablets. The Sumerians were possibly the earliest society to emerge in the world, in Southern Mesopotamia more than 5000 years ago. It’s hard to come across evidence that is conclusive about how life really was back then, but suffice to say that Sumeria has always been a place of fascination, especially when it comes to the finding of this evidence. With that being said, archaeologists have unearthed Sumerian Tablets dating to over 4 Millennium ago. To imagine there was a civilization back then that had a schematic way of recording information on Tablets is simply astounding. Were they influenced by other beings?




posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
Tax collectors could use bags like that.


Ahhh, that's why they had watches, it was a steal from the poor and give to themselves kinda thing.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: seasonal

Right, but we probably don't have this particular artist's thoughts and ideas transcribed onto the tablet. That is the point I'm getting at here. It is all speculation because we don't have enough evidence to make a reasonable statement on the artists' intentions. Does the OP bring up a strange coincidence? Sure, but without anything to go on it remains just an interesting coincidence and isn't evidence of AA theory.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 10:55 AM
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Ancient gods liked to go shopping too.

Anyone that's watched Red Dwarf knows that Jesus invented the bag.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

There is no proof this was a hand bag.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 11:07 AM
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it is holy water, and in the other hand he is carrying a pine cone, symbolic of fertility and regeneration.



Pine cones are common in Roman Catholic architecture and sacred decorations.


The largest pine cone in the world, in the Court of the Pine Cone, at the Vatican, Rome.

www.mindserpent.com...


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posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 11:09 AM
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Regarding the Mesopotamian bags, they are part of a symbolic purification ritual and held holy water (or possibly anointing oil) that was sprinkled using the pine-cone-looking thing.
That's why so many pics of them - they all depict this ritual, or the idea of it, though different cultures adapted the vignette to different things.
That is, it started out being done by an Apkallu, but later the purification was shown being done by the king, with an Apkallu guiding.

Other bags and baskets are what they appear to be - bags and baskets. Useful things to have.

Harte



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Krazysh0t

There is no proof this was a hand bag.

The OP called it a handbag in the thread title. Tell him.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: SirBlackKnight
Well for starters, the primary image there is not an "Anunaki" but rather a Nishrail or Nisroch from Ashurnasirpal II's palace at Nimrud:

As to the comment that it is wearing a watch, it seems rather redundant to wear two watches, no? Bracelets with sun discs seem more likely.

As to the bags use, well that is also no mystery, if you choose to look. For one as mentioned by rickymouse, pockets did not exist at that point, so bags had to be utilized to gather goods. In this case they are sacred hunting bags which became deified.
For more information see: Handbags of the Gods


Also, as Harte mentioned above, there is the sacred fertility ritual involving water via a pinecone, that is an important instance in addition to sacred hunting.

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posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 11:24 AM
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Shoes were so much harder to make back then.

And you can't make a good pair of mblahnicks for the desert, don't you know.


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posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: SargonThrall

So beaky feathered short legged people could make a bag, but not work out how to make a pocket?

No wonder they built triangles... and all died off..

oO



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: savemebarry
Or, you know, never existed, as gods are wont to do.

Europeans apparently did not invent pockets until the 13th century so it is hard to fault others.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: SargonThrall
a reply to: SirBlackKnight
Well for starters, the primary image there is not an "Anunaki" but rather a Nishrail or Nisroch from Ashurnasirpal II's palace at Nimrud:

As to the comment that it is wearing a watch, it seems rather redundant to wear two watches, no? Bracelets with sun discs seem more likely.

As to the bags use, well that is also no mystery, if you choose to look. For one as mentioned by rickymouse, pockets did not exist at that point, so bags had to be utilized to gather goods. In this case they are sacred hunting bags which became deified.
For more information see: Handbags of the Gods

Also, as Harte mentioned above, there is the sacred fertility ritual involving water via a pinecone, that is an important instance in addition to sacred hunting.

Not redundant at all!! One is set for earth the other for nirubu (whatever planet they call it)

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posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777
it is holy water, and in the other hand he is carrying a pine cone, symbolic of fertility and regeneration.



Pine cones are common in Roman Catholic architecture and sacred decorations.


The largest pine cone in the world, in the Court of the Pine Cone, at the Vatican, Rome.

www.mindserpent.com...



It has been suggested that pine cones are used as a symbolic representation of the pineal gland: LINK

Throughout the span of recorded human history, Pinecones have served as a symbolic representation of Human Enlightenment, the Third Eye and the Pineal Gland. Conifer Pine Trees are one of the most ancient plant genera on the planet, having existed nearly three times longer than all flowering plant species. The Pinecone is the evolutionary precursor to the flower, and its spines spiral in a perfect Fibonacci sequence in either direction, much like the Sacred Geometry of a rose or a sunflower. Our “Pine”al Gland, shaped like (and named after) the Pinecone, is at the geometric center of our brain and is intimately linked to our body's perception of light. The Pineal modulates our wake-sleep patterns and circadian rhythms, remains uniquely isolated from the blood-brain barrier system, and receives a higher percentage of blood flow than any other area of the body save the kidneys. It is considered by many to be our biological Third Eye, the "Seat of the Soul," the “Epicenter of Enlightenment” -- and its sacred symbol throughout history, in cultures around the world, has been the Pinecone.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 11:50 AM
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The "handbang" is called banduddu and it's counter part is the Millilu cone. The Millilu cone is translated as "purifier" and is a best attempt at a translation form the word elelu. If you look at the Akkadian lexicons there really isn't a certain translation available. The art work certainly depicts what could be interpreted as a purification ritual. Some of these Apkallu are even shown with the gesture pointing toward doorways as if blessing those who enter. The concept conforms with the idea of the Apkallu as they were seen as bringers of blessings and knowledge.

Despite all that I am not completely convinced. The cones are also seen in conjunction to what is probably the meshu tree. Almost as if the Millilu cone is being plucked from the flowers of this tree. If this is supposed to be the tree of life then it may be the Millilu cone is applying vitality rather than purification. There are only two types of Appkallu depicted with this cone, the bird type and the dagon type. The lion type which are considered as evil spirits, are not shown with this cone. In some cases we see the dagon type surrounding a corpse or perhaps a sick man with the lion Apkallu beneath and the heavenly type above. It could be the case that it is an exorcism, but if it's to apply vitality to the sick man it might instead be a fruit from the tree of life. In the Haggadah the fruit of life is described as some sort of pine cone. This could either be a response to the Assyrian art work or it could be from a direct understanding of the fruit. There is also the story of Adapa where Adapa is offered the food and water of heaven, which he is tricked into refusing. When he arrives in the heavens a divine being offers him this food and water. We also see the same theme of the bread and water of life in Christianity. I am in the minority, if not alone in my opinion but I still suspect there may be more to it than exorcism. Exorcisms were done with water, but by a priest which we see in the Utukku Lemnutu. Preventing evil spirits from entering or protecting someone from it was a matter of making Apkallu idols and burying them in the foundation of a building.

In any case the bucket and cone are not meaningless at all. The bucket is always seen in the left hand, and the cone always in the right even when the other is not depicted. In some cases the gesture of the offering of the millilu cone is present but the hand is entirely empty. That fits into the narrative of the Apkallu falling out of favor and being seen as evil spirits in that they somehow lost this functionality. It really does have a meaning and function.
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posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: Harte
Regarding the Mesopotamian bags, they are part of a symbolic purification ritual and held holy water (or possibly anointing oil) that was sprinkled using the pine-cone-looking thing.

My memory is poor, but I also seem to recall that in many cultures when a person is shown holding a bag like that it's usually to indicate that they have some kind of magical power. Post-Mesopotamia, it's like a "goody bag" for magicians or witches to carry around their bits of magical stuff. The Pope doesn't have one, does he? I also seem to recall that the Aztec gods and rulers carried one around.

I don't know where I got that vague shadow of an idea, but it kind of ties in with what you're saying.
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posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: Milehigh
Notwithstanding the fact that Nibiru not a planet, but a term meaning crossing/transition point, especially as pertains to the equinox - the odds that a distant planet would have the same number of hours in a day as Earth are preposterously low.

This may be the wrong website for logic, however.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: SargonThrall

Who needs logic anyways. Watch wearing aliens is more fun.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 12:46 PM
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Piñon warmers. You cant smudge hard pine resin



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 01:27 PM
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Could it be the fruit of the tree of life (knowledge), and in the bag is his bowl, pipe (hookah) and lighter to imbibe and open the pineal.

Or it is a bag of holding containing a dimensional door, and the cones a key or simply for sharpning his beak.



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