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Trump Tax Reporter, David Cay Johnston: I’m Getting Threats

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posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: xuenchen

Nope. Donald Trump's 2005 partial tax return does nothing to prove that he's an honest businessman. In fact the evidence is stacked against that meme.





Trump could voluntarily release all of his tax returns and they could all be gorgeous for Trump, and that still would not be conclusive proof that he's an honest businessman, would it?




posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

Nope. We already know that he's not an honest businessman. That's not the issue in question.

We want to see his recent tax returns to see where he gets his money and who he owes, NOW. Not what he was doing with his money 12 years ago. His 2005 tax return is irrelevant to the issue of his broken campaign promise to release his recent tax return.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: windword

Trump has proven time and time again he is honest.




posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Nope. We already know that he's not an honest businessman. That's not the issue in question.

We want to see his recent tax returns to see where he gets his money and who he owes, NOW. Not what he was doing with his money 12 years ago. His 2005 tax return is irrelevant to the issue of his broken campaign promise to release his recent tax return.




OK.

Trump could voluntarily release anything he claims are his tax returns and they could all be gorgeous for Trump, and that still would not be conclusive proof of where he gets his money and who he owes, would it?



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: windword

Trump has proven time and time again he is honest.



Did your mother drop you on your head when you were a baby?

jk



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: windword

Trump has proven time and time again he is honest.



Did your mother drop you on your head when you were a baby?

jk


I can't remember.




posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

My understanding is that it would. For example, he is said to owe Deutsche Bank 500 million (?). It would show where his profits and losses are.

Although, it would do nothing to expose hidden offshore holdings, like that "Dossier" that claims that Trump has been compromised, in the way of having gotten caught up, or set up, in a Russian money laundering scheme.


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posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 01:32 PM
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Well, Mr. tax reporter, so does Trump.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: windword

Loans might not show up on his personal tax returns if they are business related.

Honesty is the best policy.




posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Anything could "not show up" on tax returns Trump releases for public consumption. It's not like anyone could verify they are authentic with the IRS.

They could look completely fraudulent to every single tax attorney in the country and there's nothing anyone could do about it except stew.

The thought makes me giddy.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 01:49 PM
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Wow, this nozzle sounds like Obama.


“To be clear, folks, I don’t intimidate. But calls to family are out of bounds, a disturbing sign of how Trump damages civil debate.”


A car crashes in Zimbabwe...



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

In my opinion, there needs to be a central and formal investigation, under the supervision of an independent special prosecutor, who would subpoena Trump's tax returns during the course of its investigation. The public need never see them for the investigation to be comprehensive and thorough.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: MotherMayEye

In my opinion, there needs to be a central and formal investigation, under the supervision of an independent special prosecutor, who would subpoena Trump's tax returns during the course of its investigation. The public need never see them for the investigation to be comprehensive and thorough.




Ha...good luck with that.

ETA: I mean, seriously, he's not violating any actual laws by not disclosing them. Special prosecutor...lol....
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posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: windword

At most, I think you can expect the fringe left version of Orly Taitz and Sheriff Arpaio to get on the jobs of subpoenaing & investigating. It won't be difficult for Trump to get someone who can groom a couple of people to sabotage those jobs.
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posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 01:58 PM
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a reply to: windword

Why? Do you really think that a tax return would show more than what the FBI, CIA, DHS and as we now know foreign governments at the request of Barack Obama have watched him do not over the last year and a half but his life?

If there were any actual evidence of any wrongdoing it would already be there....

As Spicer says....this is way above our pay grade.
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posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye



he's not violating any actual laws by not disclosing them.


That's not the point. He may have failed to disclose financial ties that would put him in violation of laws, and the only way to uncover those financial ties is through his tax returns.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 02:17 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: windword

Why? Do you really think that a tax return would show more than what the FBI, CIA, DHS and as we now know foreign governments at the request of Barack Obama have watched him do not over the last year and a half but his life?

If there were any actual evidence of any wrongdoing it would already be there....

As Spicer says....this is way above our pay grade.


Well, the IRS, being very much right wing orientated, has had his taxes and if there were any improprieties, it seems they would say something.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 02:21 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs



If there were any actual evidence of any wrongdoing it would already be there....


There is evidence, and where there's smoke, there's usually fire.


About two-thirds of Americans say a special prosecutor should investigate contacts between Russians and Trump campaign associates, according to a new CNN/ORC poll, and 55% say they are at least somewhat concerned by reports that some connected to the Trump campaign had contact with suspected Russian operatives.

Among Republicans, a majority feel Congress can handle the investigation, but a sizable 43% support the call for a special prosecutor, as do majorities of Democrats (82%) and independents (67%). Overall, the poll finds that 65% would rather see a special prosecutor handle the investigation, while 32% think Congress is capable of handling it.
www.cnn.com...



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: network dude

No they wouldn't. The IRS doesn't compare presidential policies with a president's tax returns to see if he is currying favor with an entity he owes money to or may benefit from.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: MotherMayEye

In my opinion, there needs to be a central and formal investigation, under the supervision of an independent special prosecutor, who would subpoena Trump's tax returns during the course of its investigation. The public need never see them for the investigation to be comprehensive and thorough.


Investigation of WHAT? There is no investigation because had Trump done something illegal the IRS would have ALREADY investigated it. Talk about severe desperation.




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