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Originally posted by Kidfinger
I thought all forms of life had some type of DNA structure for replication. How do Prions propigate without it? You may have given a link earlier, but I have read so much on the subject now that I cant remember half of what I read
Originally posted by smallpeeps
I just read this article which says there will soon be RFID chips inserted into every large animal and soon for all animals.
This is so utterly lame ...microchips will not help, except perhaps to provide cleaner beef to the elites.
Isn't it true that something like 20% of alzheimers cases are actually prion diseases? I thought I read that somewhere. Effectively, it seems like a lot of us will develop "Alzheimers" much earlier in life and in large numbers.
I better get all my thinking done early in life. Maybe leave notes to myself too. :^)
Originally posted by badgirl1010
I believe that America hasa forever practiced a type of racial cleansing. The use to call it the military drafting process. People check out the truth behind our government. See if you can discover who it was that got drafted in to WW2. It wasn't the wealthy and never will be. Our governmet has been corrupt for ever, people are just afraid to see and admit the truth.
Originally posted by radagast
poison the water ? I drink soda and coffee and beer
Originally posted by radagast
Its scary stuff, the overall global trends are all bad, and I don't see any hope of reversing them soon......pollution, oil spills, war, famine, disease, nuc-yah-ler proliferation , Aids, terrorism, climate changes.....ok, now I'm depressed....
mother earth may well just shake us off her back like an unwanted flea.....
"Should the human population be controlled to support the system, or should the system be changed to support life? "
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
The problem is a result of our lifestyle, and has nothing to do with how many of us there are. The earth could support hundreds of billions of individuals if it was properly used - there is absolutely NO factual evidence to the contrary, simply a mound of rhetorical droppings (much like my own, but dyametrically opposed).
One needs only look at the earth from space at night to see just what I mean. The 'bright spots' of civilization are few and far between. The number of unoccupied acres in America alone is more cushion than we need to protect against a population explosion. Don't even get me started on the feasibility of living underwater, underground, and in space. Solving the population problem is expensive, but killing a whole bunch of people is not what I'd call a solution.
We have the technological and societal means to reduce our impact significantly in every way imaginable (energy, food, water, acreage, so on) and they have not been implemented. Why?
Because some folks want to depopulate whether it's necessary or not, to insure their lifestyle and excercise their xenophobia, and the rest of the supporters of various eugenics programs are just ignorant as to the actual efficacy of such ventures.
I take comfort in the fact that life will probably change a great deal, and at the same time remain almost exactly the same.
Don't wait for time to run out before learning to support yourself using the abundant resources provided by nature and technology. Self-sufficiency is the best possible investment anyone can ever make, if you ask me. If you're not dependent on the favors of the state, the state ceases to have any power over you.
Originally posted by sardion2000
Remember what brought about this lifestyle? Technology. Is the answer to ban technology? Gawd no. Instead of cutting budgets for Science and Engineering we should be increasing it year after year. We are on the verge of a new era IF we survive that is. Cheap and plentiful energy from Fusion power plants, molecular manufacturing providing all our needs and wants, in the process cutting out almost ALL the fat in our society like the need to manufactur and transport said manufactured goods thousands of miles so they can be used up in a year and thrown in a dump. With MNT we would just toss the used up product in a Disassembler whose primary byproduct is saids products base molecular components which can then be used to create more products all at the cost of Energy which as I said before will come from Fusion reactors which only byproduct is I believe Gamma Rays which are easily dealt with.
Originally posted by soficrow
...prions propagate by touching another protein of a similar structure, and making it morph into another prion, on contact.
Cool huh? Kind of a sci-fi thing, but real life.
Is the answer to ban technology? Gawd no. Instead of cutting budgets for Science and Engineering we should be increasing it year after year. We are on the verge of a new era IF we survive that is.
With MNT we would just toss the used up product in a Disassembler whose primary byproduct is saids products base molecular components which can then be used to create more products all at the cost of Energy which as I said before will come from Fusion reactors which only byproduct is I believe Gamma Rays which are easily dealt with.
Though with our current technology alot of those uninhabited spots are actually occupied by agriculture. Half of all Arable land is currently being occupied by farms.
Also there is another point to be made and that is continued economic growth actually has the effect of lowering birthrates due to the fact that it's expensive to raise children in the Urban areas of the planet. By 2050 it's estimated that over 70% of all people on the planet will be living in Urban Megacities like Mexico and New York.
We need to find a way to reduce the impact of those cities and there are many people working on such a task right now, infact I will be one of those shortly as when I get my degree in Nanomechanical Engineering I want to work for a Non-Profit Orginisation dedicated to bringing Nanotechnological advances to Urban area's without the redtape like "Patents" or "Brand Names" that makes things so expensive in this day and age.
Just look at the history of the DOW. Can you answer me this one question. Which is the only company on the DOW to have been on there since it's inception? Speculate as to why is it still there.
If you were born in 1900 and were somehow taken into the presant how would you react act all the "Brown" and "Mud" coloured people that makes up a cosmopolitan city in this day and age?
Socially the west is very progressive.
Decentralized power grids would do this as would Molecular Manufacturing. These things don't develop in a vacuum though which is why I've decided to take an active role in the development of such technologies.
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
Good reply, and thanks for the heads up.
It really does feel like we've never been closer to realizing an egalitarian technological utopia
Great stuff, I'd never looked into the field at all till you mentioned it. I love the idea of disassembling, but I always figured they'd use chemicals, such as is done with gold recovery and what not. The concept of using tiny machines never crossed my mind. It's a very cool idea.
I really hope I see landfills recycled in my lifetime. It's so handy that we kept such a great quantity of garbage.
Well, that's not really a big issue when you consider how much more efficiently we could be using that land, and of course urban hydroponics can largely eliminate the need for arable land in the first place. I'd love to see human waste removal systems/sewer lines synergized with above and below ground hydroponics systems for the production of food, fuel, fiber, and other resources.
That's an excellent point, but for me personally, a disturbing prediction. I'm not sure cities of such size are the way to live. I think people work better in small groups - there's less stress because the spectre of competition is smaller.
It seems like in the city, everyone you meet is a potential enemy, and in the country, everyone you meet is a potential ally. Maybe that's just my perception, but it seems to be a fact of life that human psychology is rooted in tribe/pack dynamics. Of course that dynamic would change significantly, for the better, if resources were plentiful and distributed evenly, but what are the chances of that happening?
Sounds like you're part of the solution to the problems, that's meritous.
Just be careful with those matter-eaters, don't accidentally release them and kill us all, k?
I can also forsee a Matrix-type future where the wealthy breed an underclass of humans to be enslaved, slaughtered, and harvested for their resources. Not pretty. Let's hope reason and compasson prevail over expediency and greed.
What're the odds?
Decentralized power is also ESSENTIAL to winning the War on Terror. (Winning would be qualified as making America a distinctly unattractive target, logistically and ideologically)
The profits aren't as high though, so it will take a mandate from the citizens to make it happen.
The real shame of it all, as far as I'm concerned, is that we have all the resources to accomplish something,
and little inclination to do so, seemingly. Present company exluded. All it takes is individuals, making decisions, to turn it all around. Powerful mojo...
Originally posted by alternateheaven
Of course if the route to kill off people is chosen its not necessary to pick who lives and dies, just pick two or more opposing nations and set them at each others throat to let them thin out the population as necessary;.