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Baby Jesus is a Spy and Hidden Hand Solved (almost)

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posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 12:15 AM
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originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: OwenandNoelle




Isn’t it odd that most of the evil that ever been committed in the world has been done in the name of Christianity and Islam?


I am going to need to see your proof of that. Civilization has been around a lot longer than both of those. I am not sure how you came to this conclusion.



All of the Major Religions have been distorted and twisted upside down by evil, broken people who are being manipulated by parasitic interdimensional beings. If God was ever going to save us, he would have stopped those priests from sodomizing all those little children


Still I need to see your proof.


(sarcasm on)

Well, it's obvious. Drugs, power, acquisitiveness, cruelty, revenge, love, sex, desire and weapons have never motivated people to do evil. It is only the religious, who speak out against evil, who are evil.

And the drug trade, that the OP participates so freely in, are absolute angels, bringing light, and hope, and health, and well-being to all.

(sarcasm off)

edit on 15/3/2017 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)




posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 12:16 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OwenandNoelle
I ask that you please read with an open mind and an open heart. And as always, just think of this as brain candy or brain fart.

So I think this is the answer to Hidden Hand’s riddle. Thank you to everyone here whose theories I’ve copied and made into my own.
(All of these musing are based on all of your posts)

Attention Psychology Majors:
If you are interested in witnessing the exact moment a mind shattered into a million quadrillion beautiful little pieces please see here:

www.reddit.com...

But please read this post first because it’s more fun
CAUTION if you are super religious, I mean no offence by any of this and all that I ask, is that you please educate me, don’t get all judgey.

Ask yourself what Jesus would say about making fun of the mentally ill.

Also, I am very, very stoned.

Here goes:

Isn’t it odd that most of the evil that ever been committed in the world has been done in the name of Christianity and Islam?

Did you know that the Pope’s brother is currently under investigation for molesting over 300 children?

Did you know that both the Jewish Talmud and the Muslim Koran believe that paedophilia is their divine birth right? It is written in their Holy Texts, that all of us who aren’t part of their faith are nothing but animals who can be raped and maimed at will.

(Don’t worry though, this Pope’s is nothing like that. We know that he sneaks out in the middle of the night to feed the poor and homeless.)

Unfortunately or fortunately for you, I can't think of a witty way to put this, so I’m just going to straight up say:

All of the Major Religions have been distorted and twisted upside down by evil, broken people who are being manipulated by parasitic interdimensional beings. If God was ever going to save us, he would have stopped those priests from sodomizing all those little children.

And the religions that tell us to turn the other cheek while our children are being raped…well…come on now…

The evil parasitic beings that feed off our fear and suffering, also feed off our adoration. (Oh yeah Hollywood --- I see you. You know that Hollywood is literally #ing magic right? If you don’t believe me, look up the meaning of the name.)

All that doom porn about Armageddon is just to scare us. To keep us divided and blinded by hate and fear.

It’s to keep us in a negative vibration.

It's no secret that the illuminati control both political parties right? All of us who are waking up know this, right?

Could it be, could it be, that they also control both Jesus and Satan? Or Zeus and Saturn? Or Isis and Osiris? It seems like they worship everyone but Christ. Christ consciousness?

The battle between the Messiah and Devil, Cain and Abel, Those guys from Lost --- is a myth that has been repeated many, many times before.

Without question, there are definitely Angelic beings out there guiding us too --- many more so then the evil parasites that hide in the shadows, preying upon the vulnerable and the weak.

More Good News:
From string theory we know that everything vibrates --- including me and you.

Look into the study of music --- Cymatics. Then research the conspiracy of 432 htz versus 440. Finally look into the salt crystal thought experiments. The answer is there. (It’s love) We’ve got to increase the positive vibrations on earth. When in doubt, channel the Beach Boys!

We have to choose to care about each other as much as we care about our immediate family and friends.

One last point:

Remember Hidden Hand’s post where he chided us “silly humans” for not even knowing where we lived.

Well here goes:

We do indeed live on a Planet.

Or you could say:

A flat Plane inside of a t.

Did you know the cross that Christian’s worship is actually a 2 Dimensional Representation of Metatron’s Cube? This is the Black Cube that you see in art and is worshipped all over the world. The symbol is literally stamped to the forehead of Islamic Holy Men.

Metatron’s other name is the Angel of Life and within this Angel lies every form within creation.

X marks the spot.

(I have to note, this is all stolen from Flat Earth A**hole and all of you awesome Flat Earth Truthers!)


Isn't it strange how a person who confesses to being "very, very stoned" on a public bulletin board, has a weak grasp on reality?
Which brings to question... What is that "reality" to you?



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 12:17 AM
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a reply to: OwenandNoelle

I don't recall hidden hand's riddle. Can you quote it?



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 12:22 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut

You're being sarcastic, but you're actually quite right. Those are indeed the motivations for the people who have chosen the dark path of the illuminati.

I definitely don't think everyday Christians are bad at all --- just some of their leaders. (As with all the major religions)

And surely, you must agree that the Pope is a disgrace on the institution when we consider all the paedophilia that have come out in recent years. And you, know, with his brother being accused of molesting 300+ children.

Anyways, if you're not out there raping kids --- I don't care what religion you follow. We're on the same side believe it or not.

And I'm not encouraging illegal drugs. I was just trying to set a humorous tone and well, what could possibly be your problem with marijuana anyway?

Anyways, peace and chill out a bit chr0naut this is supposed to be fun.

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posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 12:25 AM
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a reply to: OwenandNoelle




Now what is never discussed in school, is just how these slaves (or the artist) would have known what the pineal gland looked like. And how these slaves have known, that this tiny little piece of brain matter would allow them to trip balls.


I too, find history fascinating. It could be. But it could just be a pine cone.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 12:26 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Indeed.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 12:27 AM
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originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: OwenandNoelle

I don't recall hidden hand's riddle. Can you quote it?
I have seen the Hidden Hand thread... What really stood out to me about it is that at one point he/she bluntly stated 'You're not free here and you never will be. Not here you won't. It's as it was intended by a far higher power.' I am paraphrasing. However, that was the gist of it. I don't remember a riddle, but I didn't read the entire thread.

For some reason, the discussion of freedom on earth just struck me. I don't know if it was because it was because it was presented in a manner that insinuated that TPTB was only playing out an assigned role, or what, but it just struck a chord.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 12:31 AM
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a reply to: AgarthaSeed

Oh I was just trying to be funny --- Hidden Hand's whole thread was a riddle with little bits of wisdom, misdirection and insight imho.

If you are interested here is Hidden Hand's thread. Take it with a grain of salt, but it is imho, quite a read. And for years, I could never forget him mocking us because we didn't seem to know where "we" were.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also, this might be easier to read because it has all the posts at once:
illuminati-news.com...



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 12:32 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: OwenandNoelle




Isn’t it odd that most of the evil that ever been committed in the world has been done in the name of Christianity and Islam?


I am going to need to see your proof of that. Civilization has been around a lot longer than both of those. I am not sure how you came to this conclusion.



All of the Major Religions have been distorted and twisted upside down by evil, broken people who are being manipulated by parasitic interdimensional beings. If God was ever going to save us, he would have stopped those priests from sodomizing all those little children


Still I need to see your proof.


(sarcasm on)

Well, it's obvious. Drugs, power, acquisitiveness, cruelty, revenge, love, sex, desire and weapons have never motivated people to do evil. It is only the religious, who speak out against evil, who are evil.

And the drug trade, that the OP participates so freely in, are absolute angels, bringing light, and hope, and health, and well-being to all.

(sarcasm off)

The problem with this sarcastic post is that this reality, all of it..is a lie..a sham. These "evil' things you speak of only exist because a group of players/actors/pawns are involved (forced?) into a game where limitation exists. In a "true" reality, there is no such thing as limitation...balance...etc, hence no need to worry about who is using drugs, because there are no consequences for the desire and act of being "high" all the time.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 12:35 AM
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a reply to: 3daysgone

To me, it just seems silly that they would waste their time carving a pinecomb into a cave wall? But who knows, maybe the pinecomb had a special meaning to them. Maybe it reminded them of the pineal gland.


(I'm kidding)



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 12:53 AM
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a reply to: FlukeSkywalker

You are much further on your path them I am, but I absolutely agree with you. I do think our reality is much more malleable then some might think, but am still a long way from that type of enlightenment! I really appreciate your post!


I'm trying to figure out how to "lose my ego" but as you might be able to tell, my ego is very stubborn.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 01:10 AM
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a reply to: SpeakerofTruth

Oh excellent comment! Yes, that Hidden Hand thread has stuck with me for a very long time as well. So much of it rang true and tbh, disturbed me. Exactly that part you mentioned!

I hated the implication that we (humanity) were here for a reason. It made me wonder if our reality was hell or purgatory and that all of us here on earth had already "sold our souls" or were perhaps really evil in a previous life.

But if this is all a game, then it does make sense that there would be bad guys trying to move things along. This is just one more crazy thought and people will hate me for even suggesting this, I hate even typing it, but if HH turns out to be true, then we're going to have to forgive these satanic child molesters, because they have chosen the hardest path possible.

The only people who have suffered more then the children are the crazed psychopaths whose state of mind could allow them to commit such unspeakable act. No need imho, to forgive them in this life though --- They still need to be hung in the streets. But I'm just saying maybe there was a reason. I don't know though, I absolutely hate paedophiles.

But anyways, have you checked out the Illuminati Card game? Great fun and there's too many coincidences to be ignored imho.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 01:19 AM
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a reply to: OwenandNoelle

Listen to others as if you were saying the words others are saying to you... feel ther tone and see the emotions on their face and in their voice; it is a point of view to be taken just as valid as one's own as far as concepts go. Life is full of pain and struggle a lot of it needlessly to the very systems of concepts we have agreed on... ideologies many of them try to point to the same thing; but since a lot of money is to be made or control to be had from such things? Life can become horrible; especially when self centered or aware, it is then best to seek out perspectives different than one's own or "group" that is only going to solidify or validate the same thing which does nothing as far as growth in perspective and understanding goes.

Like two opposing groups willing to kill over something the other disagrees with; like why so empassioned about some idea or belief to create a reality that does nothing but keep pain and suffering in a vicious cycle? Like people pissed off about stuff that happened hundreds of years ago or thousands of years ago; because they identify with whatever the hell that was even though it in absolutely no way directly affected them nor ever could; but im just gonna go ahead and pick this up and call it my fight something to carry on, and hey some other douche is doing the same thing on the opposing side; and bam powder keg of stupidity... too many people doing this nonsense; losing all individuality the reason being? Hey we like making up labels and accepting and giving eachother labels so hey ima go claim this label that essentially means nothing; and in doing so woo automatic acceptance in those down with it; and whoa automatic hate from all of those opposed to it.

So we kinda do it to ourselves over and over and over... it is a madness and stupidity, that does not have to go on as it does. As intelligent of a species we are? Such a thing reduces ourselves to worse than even animals do to each other. We don't have to compete for food, resources, nor mates... but in these silly ideas and lands of make believe we have made or taken as reality? We do.

So ego says my chosen conglomerate of make belief BS I have chosen or taken as a self is better than yours... seeing such a thing? Is it something worth holding onto? Better to let the personality you have from being subjected to all of that nonsense to shine through as your true character and nature; imho.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 03:08 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr

wrong post
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posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 03:09 AM
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a reply to: OwenandNoelle

Do you think child molesting didnt occur before the dawn of religion 6000KYA? Im not sure were you are heading? Humans for me is the main issue not organized religion.. Im pretty sure nature stated, a female child is when she first bleeds is considered an adult.. But no, you say instead;" Religion f* them in the ass "

Where do you think our modern laws comes from? Even better, do you think our architecture came from pre-neolithic societies? Its a metaphysical concept from ancient Greece.. Without any religion, we would act one with nature.. And every thing you stated as wrong, would be "natural"..

Do i think religion keeps people away from true spirituality? No, i just believe they consider most people could not handle spirituality without a medium in between.. I believe as you want to state, child molesting happens, without regulations and laws, id bet you, it would happen a lot more often..

If you are gonna post an enlightening post, please enlighten..



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 05:38 AM
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originally posted by: OwenandNoelle
I ask that you please read with an open mind and an open heart. And as always, just think of this as brain candy or brain fart.

So I think this is the answer to Hidden Hand’s riddle. Thank you to everyone here whose theories I’ve copied and made into my own.
(All of these musing are based on all of your posts)

Attention Psychology Majors:
If you are interested in witnessing the exact moment a mind shattered into a million quadrillion beautiful little pieces please see here:

www.reddit.com...

But please read this post first because it’s more fun
CAUTION if you are super religious, I mean no offence by any of this and all that I ask, is that you please educate me, don’t get all judgey.

Ask yourself what Jesus would say about making fun of the mentally ill.

Also, I am very, very stoned.

Here goes:

Isn’t it odd that most of the evil that ever been committed in the world has been done in the name of Christianity and Islam?


Both Christianity and Islam have strong moral and legal codes. They stand against evil and are not its source. Mass murder, genocide and social evils like drugs and sexually transmitted diseases are things these religions stand against. For instance, the biggest causes of mass deaths from war have neither Christian nor Islamic cause. Here's a list from Wikipedia. Click the link and educate yourself.

You, however, would appear to be financially supporting the industry of illegal drugs. Here's a link to the CDC relating drug deaths in the United States in 2015.


Did you know that the Pope’s brother is currently under investigation for molesting over 300 children?


The previous Pope's brother was associated with a choir where there were there were allegations of sexual abuse. There were were allegations of 231 individual incidents (not 300), which some news media misrepresented, saying there were 231 victims. The truth was that there were about 50 victims and 10 perpetrators, and only two of the perpetrators were priests. The rest were the children in the choir. There was no suggestion that the Pope's brother was directly involved. The case was closed, actual perpetrators were prosecuted and the victims were compensated six years ago.

Did you know that falsely accusing someone is a crime, too?


Did you know that both the Jewish Talmud and the Muslim Koran believe that paedophilia is their divine birth right? It is written in their Holy Texts, that all of us who aren’t part of their faith are nothing but animals who can be raped and maimed at will.


In the Talmud, a child under 12 should not be married and a girl older than 12 years can only marry if she chooses the suitor. I would agree that the Talmud has racist sections but the Torah has laws that encourage fairness and equality in dealing with non-Jews. The Torah laws take precedence.


(Don’t worry though, this Pope’s is nothing like that. We know that he sneaks out in the middle of the night to feed the poor and homeless.)

Unfortunately or fortunately for you, I can't think of a witty way to put this, so I’m just going to straight up say:

All of the Major Religions have been distorted and twisted upside down by evil, broken people who are being manipulated by parasitic interdimensional beings. If God was ever going to save us, he would have stopped those priests from sodomizing all those little children.


In those religions, God has already saved us, over and over again. God finds all sin equally abhorrent. Murder, slander, sodomy, depravity, theft and all other sins deserve the same punishment, which he chooses to withhold for our sake. We do the wrong thing and he doesn't wipe us out of existence but gives us many chances to try and do better. Our final punishment will come at our judgement.


And the religions that tell us to turn the other cheek while our children are being raped…well…come on now…


Christianity says Christians are to turn the other cheek, which is all about personal self control if you had actually read the text. It doesn't say that non-Christians should be told to, or made to, turn the other cheek. It also does not imply that Christians are to lay down hopelessly like a doormat for evil. You will know that all countries have legal systems which prosecute evildoers. Civil laws are based upon the religious laws which preceded them. If you break the law in a Christian or Islamic country, expect consequences. Christians aren't weak, they have the ultimate power in the universe on their side. They just have to wield that power with finesse and justice.


The evil parasitic beings that feed off our fear and suffering, also feed off our adoration. (Oh yeah Hollywood --- I see you. You know that Hollywood is literally #ing magic right? If you don’t believe me, look up the meaning of the name.)


Here's a description of how the name came about, from Wikipedia.


All that doom porn about Armageddon is just to scare us. To keep us divided and blinded by hate and fear.


So, you are scared and divided by hate and fear? I'm not.


It’s to keep us in a negative vibration.


Surely vibrations oscillate between positive and negative.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 06:11 AM
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originally posted by: OwenandNoelle
It's no secret that the illuminati control both political parties right? All of us who are waking up know this, right?


Both political parties? Like there are only two? Anyway, the actual Illuminati were an anti-religious, anti-monarchist group that were wiped out hundreds of years ago. Wikipedia again.


Could it be, could it be, that they also control both Jesus and Satan? Or Zeus and Saturn? Or Isis and Osiris? It seems like they worship everyone but Christ. Christ consciousness?

The battle between the Messiah and Devil, Cain and Abel, Those guys from Lost --- is a myth that has been repeated many, many times before.

Without question, there are definitely Angelic beings out there guiding us too --- many more so then the evil parasites that hide in the shadows, preying upon the vulnerable and the weak.


You just said they were myth.


More Good News:
From string theory we know that everything vibrates --- including me and you.


Um, that's thermodynamics and classical physics. Strings don't have to vibrate to be 'string theory' strings.



Look into the study of music --- Cymatics.


Cymatics is not the study of music, it is the study of the visible effects of vibration. Most cymatics use pure sine wave tones and are not musical.


Then research the conspiracy of 432 htz versus 440. Finally look into the salt crystal thought experiments. The answer is there. (It’s love) We’ve got to increase the positive vibrations on earth. When in doubt, channel the Beach Boys!


432 vs 440 Hz, now there's a conspiracy that is meaningful and important. As a musician, I can inform you that only the note A above middle C is at issue there. All other notes have different frequencies altogether!! Shock, horror. And most instruments can be simply tuned up or down to whatever reference frequency one might desire. Nor can most non-musicians determine the reference frequency the instruments are tuned to. It is IRRELEVANT to the music. It definitely isn't some sort of cosmic thing.


We have to choose to care about each other as much as we care about our immediate family and friends.


Careful, that's the sort of thing that those religious guys have been saying for millennia.


One last point:

Remember Hidden Hand’s post where he chided us “silly humans” for not even knowing where we lived.

Well here goes:

We do indeed live on a Planet.

Or you could say:

A flat Plane inside of a t.

Did you know the cross that Christian’s worship is actually a 2 Dimensional Representation of Metatron’s Cube? This is the Black Cube that you see in art and is worshipped all over the world. The symbol is literally stamped to the forehead of Islamic Holy Men.

Metatron’s other name is the Angel of Life and within this Angel lies every form within creation.

X marks the spot.

(I have to note, this is all stolen from Flat Earth A**hole and all of you awesome Flat Earth Truthers!)


... nah, they are probably just ignorant confused stoners.



edit on 15/3/2017 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 06:24 AM
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originally posted by: FlukeSkywalker

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: OwenandNoelle




Isn’t it odd that most of the evil that ever been committed in the world has been done in the name of Christianity and Islam?


I am going to need to see your proof of that. Civilization has been around a lot longer than both of those. I am not sure how you came to this conclusion.



All of the Major Religions have been distorted and twisted upside down by evil, broken people who are being manipulated by parasitic interdimensional beings. If God was ever going to save us, he would have stopped those priests from sodomizing all those little children


Still I need to see your proof.


(sarcasm on)

Well, it's obvious. Drugs, power, acquisitiveness, cruelty, revenge, love, sex, desire and weapons have never motivated people to do evil. It is only the religious, who speak out against evil, who are evil.

And the drug trade, that the OP participates so freely in, are absolute angels, bringing light, and hope, and health, and well-being to all.

(sarcasm off)

The problem with this sarcastic post is that this reality, all of it..is a lie..a sham. These "evil' things you speak of only exist because a group of players/actors/pawns are involved (forced?) into a game where limitation exists. In a "true" reality, there is no such thing as limitation...balance...etc, hence no need to worry about who is using drugs, because there are no consequences for the desire and act of being "high" all the time.


The fact that people really get hurt makes it not a consequence-less game.

Humans are not limitless. No amount of Eastern 'all is one, one is all' mysticism will make Buddha any less dead and buried.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Pick a label and tada just like magic you have an enemy... perhaps some consideration to why that is? All of them are supposedly for peace; however all their branding of it IS the problem. No our crap is right, no ours is blah blah blah... how about shut the subjective mind the hell up see a glimpse of peace without all of that blah blah blah and then stop subjecting everyone to it not interested like subjects or slaves... no thought is the same no matter what brand of nonsense one subscribes to in words.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 06:45 AM
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originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: chr0naut

Pick a label and tada just like magic you have an enemy... perhaps some consideration to why that is? All of them are supposedly for peace; however all their branding of it IS the problem. No our crap is right, no ours is blah blah blah... how about shut the subjective mind the hell up see a glimpse of peace without all of that blah blah blah and then stop subjecting everyone to it not interested like subjects or slaves... no thought is the same no matter what brand of nonsense one subscribes to in words.


So if we pretend it isn't happening, it isn't, and we can all sing Kubayah into the sunset and live happily ever after?



Like we should be ignoring the sexual violation of minors, because maybe someone else's belief system doesn't find it abhorrent?

Nope. Doesn't work like that.

Evil people do things that hurt other people. Even if the evil person doesn't acknowledge that they have done wrong, it still is evil.

If someone has a moral code and stands up and says "That's wrong, stop it", they aren't the cause of the evil, but might just be the prevention of it, mightn't they?

It really isn't that hard to understand.

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