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WW3 Expands, Russia Deploys Special Forces In Western Egypt Towards Libya

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posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 08:14 AM
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Well well, it appears the Russians have opened a new front. Looks like there are two world police on the block now. Will Russia attempt to pacify Libya in an effort to secure its own sphere of influence in resource rich North Africa?? Motives, motives, motives, what could they be ???


Reuters
Exclusive: Russia appears to deploy forces in Egypt, eyes on Libya role - sources
Russia appears to have deployed special forces to an airbase in western Egypt near the border with Libya in recent days, U.S., Egyptian and diplomatic sources say, a move that would add to U.S. concerns about Moscow's deepening role in Libya.

The U.S. and diplomatic officials said any such Russian deployment might be part of a bid to support Libyan military commander Khalifa Haftar, who suffered a setback with an attack on March 3 by the Benghazi Defence Brigades (BDB) on oil ports controlled by his forces.

The U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the United States has observed what appeared to be Russian special operations forces and drones at Sidi Barrani, about 60 miles (100 km) from the Egypt-Libya border.

Egyptian security sources offered more detail, describing a 22-member Russian special forces unit, but declined to discuss its mission. They added that Russia also used another Egyptian base farther east in Marsa Matrouh in early February.


Now of course, Russia has categorically dismissed Western media reports in regards to this alleged deployment. Perhaps they were trying to make a surprise move??

This former Soviet base was secured in October 2016 in an agreement between Russian and Egyptian officials. But all the media twits were too busy vomiting in each others faces to pay attention.


Published on Oct 10, 2016

The Russian military holds negotiations with the Egyptian authorities on rental of a Soviet military air base in the Egyptian town of Sidi Barrani. Restoration of the base will evidence a new stage of cooperation between the two countries as well as help to settle geopolitical tasks in the Middle East and the North of Africa. The talks on Russia’s participation in renewal of the Egyptian military facilities on the coast of the Mediterranean Sea are being held successfully. As a source in the foreign policy circles said, ‘in case both parties agree upon the terms, the base may start operating as early as in 2019. Cairo is ready to agree upon its rental by Moscow to solve major geopolitical tasks, which meet the interests of Egypt as well. According to agreements that have been already reached, Russia will deliver equipment by sea. Moreover, a permanent military contingent of Russia will be deployed’. Thus, Russia will return to Sidi Barrani after 45 years. Until 1972 the Soviet Navy used the base in this Egyptian town to monitor the US Navy.

Looks like they beat the timeline




posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry


Motives, motives, motives, what could they be ???

Defending against the expansion of NATO, everywhere? Ongoing since the end of WWII.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 08:28 AM
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Looks like there are two world police on the block now.


Not at all, Russia seems to be playing the role of garbage man to the U.S., first they cleaned up ISIS in Syria, next up is Libya, where I'm guessing some possibly fled to.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

Link to a piece concerning Libya that might help .

A visit that was paid to Moscow by the Prime Minister of the Libyan Government of National Consent, Fayez al-Sarraj has once again drwan the public attention to the problems of this country, that undergoes the crisis of duality of powers. Fayez al-Sarraj is representing the government that is situated in Tripoli, while the other government of Libya can be located the east of the country, in the city of Tobruk. Each of these powers has their own military capabilities, which only aggravates the situation.

According with the agreement concluded by the opposing parties in Morocco, the National Consent government was supposed to become the basis for the process of transition to a unified national governing structures. Yet, in spite of the support provided by the United Nations, the United States, the EU and other countries to the National Consent government, it wasn’t approved by the parliament in Tobruk, which resulted in further instability. This government has no authority in the eastern part of the country, which is under the control of General Haftar – the commander-in-chief of the Tobruk army. What is even more important is that the absolute majority of oil reserves, along with the ports that enable it to be exported from the country are situated in the east.

The country is being plagued by a long list of problems, including internal feud and the plundering of its cities and villages by various radical groups that remains virtually unopposed. In 2016 alone, clashes between warring groups resulted in the death toll of over 1500 people, independent sources say. journal-neo.org...



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry


I am trying to find the location of this former soviet base, but the only tract of land nearby with runways appears to labeled as the airport. Am I missing it?? Is it right in my face, or is the airport the place??



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 09:25 AM
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Russia is denying western MSM reports

There are are no Russian special forces units in Egypt contrary to media reports, the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman said Tuesday. MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Late on Monday, Reuters news agency reported that Russia deployed 22-member unit of special forces and several drones to an airbase in Egypt near the Libyan border, citing unnamed US and Egyptian military and diplomatic sources. The Egyptian Defense Ministry has already denied the reports. "There are no Russian special forces in Sidi Barrani. Certain Western media have been stirring the public with such mud-slinging from anonymous sources for years," Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.
sputniknews.com...



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 09:42 AM
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Hmmm I wonder if this will happen in all 7 countries (in 5 years ) Gen. Clark spoke about?

Golly Libya would make 4 of em of the top of my head.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 09:45 AM
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Hmmm I wonder if this will happen in all 7 countries (in 5 years ) Gen. Clark spoke about?
Yea that cat is out of the bag now and steps are being put into play to counter it ,I would think .



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 09:57 AM
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i believe it is the one but the label im getting is different , it says Port lotniczy Sidi Barrani, and the picture is not clear but the surrounding is

31°28'9.66"N
25°52'43.98"E



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 12:09 PM
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The term WW3 is so overused it has nearly lost its meaning and value. Sorry but WW3 wont look at all as pleasant as things are now. WW3 is something that will live in your worst nightmares and what we all dont want. 80%of the world will we dead from it for sure.

Just fustrating comparing small timely conflicts or troop movements to WW3 type level. In reality we wouldnt be here having a conversation if this was the case.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: Dr UAE
This small Bedouin community has already seen some significant action in a previous world war.

The Battle of Sidi Barrani (10–11 December 1940) was the opening battle of Operation Compass, the first big British attack of the Western Desert Campaign. Sidi Barrani on the Mediterranean coast in Egypt, had been occupied by the Italian 10th Army, during the Italian invasion of Egypt from 9–16 September 1940 and was attacked by British, Commonwealth and imperial troops who re-captured the port. While retreating from Sidi Barrani and Buq Buq, Italian forces crowded on the coast road and were easy targets for HMS Terror and two gunboats, which bombarded the Sollum area all day and most of the night of 11 December. By late on 12 December, the only Italian positions left in Egypt were at the approaches to Sollum and the vicinity of Sidi Omar. The British took 38,300 prisoners for a loss of 624 men and prolonged the five-day raid on Italian positions in Egypt, eventually capturing Cyrenaica and most of the 10th Army.


I also found some historical from an article in October when this deal was signed with Egypt. They are in fact, vying for a position on the oil production and distribution.

Aria of the Suez guest. Oil redistribution and the return of Russia in Egypt
After the Egyptian revolution (1952) and the nationalization of the Suez Canal (1956), Britain with the support of France and Israel tried to regain control of the Suez by using military means. The war was ended by the joint efforts of the USSR and the US, which hoped to establish their control over the canal.

Abdel Nasser made a bet on the USSR, but in 1967 as a result of the Six Day Arab-Israeli war (this time with the support of the United States) the canal was blocked by Israeli troops. Each year, Egypt was losing 4-5 billion dollars (still backed by gold at the time) due to the idle canal.

After the death of Nasser in 1970 and the coming to power of Anwar Sadat, Egypt was forced to change its priorities moving from an ally of the Soviet Union to an ally of the United States. In 1972, Sadat expelled from Egypt all the Soviet specialists and closed the military base in Sidi Barrani. And two years later Israel withdrew its troops and Egypt began restoring the Suez Canal.

Since then, the conjuncture of the oil market changed radically. The US abandoned the gold standard, limited the domestic oil production and turned from an exporter to the main importer of oil. Suez Canal as the main oil route now runs in the opposite (reverse) direction – it serves to supply raw materials to Europe and the United States, and the control of it is a strategic priority for Washington.

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Today, the world has entered the era of a new oil assets redistribution. Previous redistributions have been associated with revolutions of local colonels (Gaddafi, Saddam) in the oil-rich countries with the tacit support of the Soviet Union and the nationalization of the oil-extracting concessions of the United States and Britain. Now there is a reverse process – the “color revolutions” and the return of oil production and transportation under the direct control of the United States.

If the information on the return of Russia to the Sidi Barrani is confirmed, it would mean that the alternative proposal that Russia made to the world oil market in Syria, have been heard not only in China but also in the Arab countries.


I am looking for some information and hopefully images of this base from its Soviet Era, or even something more recent. I have good faith I will find them.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 12:41 PM
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you watch too much Hollywood. Nobody in America ever saw the horrors of war from either World War outside of the media and enlisted soldiers. Nobody in America has seen the horrors of war from WW3 outside of the media and enlisted soldiers.
This war, which started in 2009 when Russia finally used force to confront NATO encroachment into Georgia in an effort to end the attacks on its breakaway regions. A world war is measured by the confrontation of global powers and their very MANY vassal states and allies. The campaign that stretches all across the Middle East (instead of Europe this time), as well as parts of North Africa (that was there last time as well) and the opening up of the Pacific front is just getting underway under a similar timeline as between the land wars and Pacific engagement of WW2.

Listen, when the world has satellites that can track your movement from second to second, turn every internet connected device into a spying machine like us crazy people were saying for a decade before being confirmed by a whistle blower in 2013 and again in 2017, missiles, mortars, artillery and even bullets that can be guided to their targets precisely, the ability to strike any target on Earth within 24 hours by at least 3 or 4 world powers, and as little as an hour by at least 1 of them, automated machines that kill from miles away or even on the ground with no human soldier in jeopardy except the target, a media monopoly that controls the global news narrative that would even have Hitler blushing at the spin, and the fact that local forces are being paid to handle the majority of the brutality that the innocent civilians have to endure; well what you get is a slightly different type of world war than that which was waged nearly a century ago.

Trying to put the variables and conditions of the last world war on today's modern rendition does not compute.

Americans will never see the horrors of the world wars. Europe is suffering the consequences of it just like they always do. Australia only had a smattering of airstrikes on it, and that could return depending on how the NK First Strike equipment that has been deployed plays out. The ones who see the horrors of war live in the lands where it is being waged, just like WW2.

I am not coming from "this is going to start WW3" , I am telling you, we have been in WW3 since at least 2009. Time magazine first coined WW2 in 1939 during the super hyped propaganda days. Notice the news reports differently nearly 80 years later, and does not even want the audience to know the extent to which war is being waged globally.

Ever consider there is a reason the media virtually overlooks any movements outside of Mosul specifically, and a little tiny bit of Syria. No mention of Yemen, Ukraine or Libya anymore. Or any mention in just how many nations are participating on multiple fronts?? In stark contrast to WW1 and 2 which happened in antiquity as far as the modern world is concerned and was very much in peoples faces, it is very hidden today because people are distracted with entertainment media so that they do not question the reasoning of these wars.

Anyways, I will always refer to this time period as WW3 until the major hot zones and the players start winding down their efforts, which won't be likely until next year.
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posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 01:28 PM
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Those coordinates match up with the ones provided on Global Security's page on Sidi Barrani. So this is the airbase that the Russians will use for their extended Middle East/North Africa missions.

Here are Russia and Egyptian troops training together in Alexandria back in October when the lease deal for the air base was signed.

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posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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it has been a freakin game from the beginning, it has always been, and still is, people rule then die but the plan is there for those who will inherit the power and to serve the masters, it has been always like that and it will always be.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 04:22 PM
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ive seen that when i digged in, and i tell you there is more into this, more hidden secrets



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 04:26 PM
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This...my friend is behind most political problems in the modern world. Thanks for the info



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 06:07 PM
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The deal with Egypt is that Obama and crew were behind the "Muslim Brotherhood" revolution. To this day I am unsure what exactly the point was of that other than to possibly help a sect of Islam move forward with the dream of a Caliphate. That and some large quid pro quo.
After the Egyptian military took over, I am sure they decided that the United States, although powerful, was corrupt as well as immoral. They turned back to their old reliable pals - Russia.

In a way, Russia taking back some of its former "vassals" is probably a good thing in that in doesn't supply the vacuum for ISIS types to run roughshod over an existing "archaic" population.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: Fools

Thats true enough. Stability keeps disorder from turning into chaos. It is turning out to be difficult to find soviet era or modern images of the airport. All I get are WW2 archive images and video about the Italian and British confrontation.

Anyone else got recommendations???



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 10:58 AM
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Here is something interesting for you to consider if you want to throw ISIS into the mix of your theories:

www.brookings.edu...

They believe Dabiq to be the final battle place.



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 11:38 AM
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Interestingly enough, that article is from three years ago and the territory around Dabiq is under Turkish/FSA control. Liberated in October.



Raqqa is where the final showdown for ISIS in Syria. Mosul is pretty much taken already, albeit with heavy coalition and civilian casualties.

This map of the Syrian conflict is rather thorough, showing lines of control, locations of battles, timelines etc etc.

Daesh does not want to die. They will probably start regrouping in another country to rebuild their numbers. But they really only have two options due to the fact they can only exist in a state of chaos.

Option one is Libya, and is likely why the Russians are building their forces long the Mediterranean. The other is Somalia, but they would have some serious competition there and their brutality will probably not be tolerated.



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