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Trump healthcare plan will strip insurance from 14 million citizens

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posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 03:30 AM
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An estimated 14 million people would lose insurance coverage in 2018 under the new Republican healthcare plan, according to a budget analysis.
The long-awaited Republican plan was assessed by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), a nonpartisan group of budget analysts and economists.
The CBO said the added number uninsured would rise to 24 million by 2026.
The bill would reduce the federal deficits by $337bn (£275bn) over the 10-year period, the report found.
Those savings could help House Republicans sell the new legislation - known as the American Health Care Act (AHCA) - to some conservatives who remain sceptical about costs.
What are the Republicans proposing?
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President Donald Trump has backed the plan, which would replace former President Barack Obama's signature healthcare bill, the Affordable Care Act, known as Obamacare.
Other key findings in the report
The CBO, along with the Joint Committee on Taxation, also found that five million fewer people would be covered under Medicaid, which covers low-income people, by 2018.
An estimated 14 million fewer people would enroll in the Medicaid programme by 2026, it said.
And the report found that by 2026, an estimated 52 million people would be uninsured, compared with the 28 million who would not be covered that year under Obamacare.
Analysis: Anthony Zurcher, North America reporter
Now we see why the Trump administration spent the past week attempting to play down the importance of the CBO's scoring of the American Healthcare Act. The numbers are in, and the top-line increase in uninsured Americans in 2018 - more than 14 million next year - is staggering.
Conservatives will herald the long-term budget savings derived from the legislation as well as the reduced taxes. But the pain from the cuts to coverage and subsidies will be more immediate and focused on the poor and the elderly.
Moderates, particularly those up for re-election in 2018 in states that had expanded Medicaid coverage, may very well cite the CBO number as reason to run for the exits.
The House bill was already under fire from the right for enshrining what they saw as a new "welfare entitlement", so any attempts to lesson the blow of the changes will be difficult. The odds in favour of eventual passage are growing longer by the day.
The Republicans know they have to do something to fulfil their "repeal and replace" campaign promises, but finding a solution will take all the political skill the congressional leadership, and the Trump administration, can muster.
How have Republicans reacted to the CBO report?
House Speaker Paul Ryan highlighted the CBO's conclusions on deficit reduction and decreased premiums. "I recognise and appreciate concerns about making sure people have access to coverage," Mr Ryan said.
"[O]ur plan is not about forcing people to buy expensive, one-size-fits-all coverage. It is about giving people more choices and better access to a plan they want and can afford."
Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price said the administration "strenuously disagreed" with the report's findings on the number of people who would lose coverage.
"Right now, current law, we've got individuals who have health coverage but no healthcare," he said after the assessment was released.
Mr Price contended the new plan would cover more individuals at a lower cost.
How have Democrats reacted?
Democrats jumped on the figures in the CBO assessment. California Representative Adam Schiff called the numbers "appalling".
"Now we know why Speaker Ryan rushed to pass his repeal bill; CBO says it kicks 24 million off their healthcare in next 10 years. Appalling," Mr Schiff tweeted.
Virginia Representative Don Beyer called it a "disaster".
Why is Trump proposing a new bill?
During his campaign, Mr Trump promised to scrap most elements of Obamacare.
The legislation is hugely unpopular among Republicans, who claim it imposes too many costs on business and is an unwarranted government intrusion into the affairs of businesses and individuals.
They say the AHCA will lower costs and argue that statistics showing it will lower coverage are misleading.
Democrats have accused Republicans of attacking the legislation simply in order to attack the credibility of Mr Obama and the Democrat party.


Trump healthcare plan 'will strip insurance from 14 million' - BBC News
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posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 03:30 AM
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posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 03:58 AM
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a reply to: Pandaram

The entire GOP plan is to purge as many undesirables as possible then incarcerate or send the rest of America to syria.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 04:27 AM
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a reply to: Pandaram

Its gonna be a HUGE plan, gonna be fantastic...best ever, all other plans are fake...Trump will build a wall around hospitals to keep those pesky uninsured losers out...its gonna be great...he will keep on winning...



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 04:35 AM
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And brides.. dont forget the bridges.. he going to put trillion quid towards it.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 04:45 AM
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a reply to: Pandaram

Nothing In Life Is FREE . If those 14 Million really want Healthcare , they will Figure Out a Way to Afford it or Do without . This Is Life........



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 05:22 AM
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14 Million is such a small number. The media tries to use that headline to act like its so big of a deal. It really isn't.

To do the statistics, 14 million people would encompass a city and its surrounding area. Also to point out a fact the U.S. population as a whole is currently 325 MILLION people.

17 million isn't anything in the grand scheme of things. It isn't as bad as the media spins it. Im not saying its a good thing but its not bad to warrant an outcry although something still must be done to fix healthcare without steep costs and a penalty.

Like some people have said. Those 17 million need to get off their butts and go find insurance instead of expecting govt handouts.
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posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 05:37 AM
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a reply to: Pandaram

How many of those 14 million will be voluntarily dropping medical insurance now that there won't be a fine for not having it?

Count me as 1 for starters.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 05:51 AM
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a reply to: Zanti Misfit

I believe most people who endorse well funded health care programs realise that outdated economic policies combined with a conservative 'pay to play' private insurance system equates with a lower quality of life for citizens, especially within a nationalized society that can more than afford a living wage and social benefits system without compromising its ideal of capitalistic enterprise driving the consumer economic base to grow in pace.

All the more reason to spend more towards a healthy vibrant working class so that pioneering industry can improve the human condition.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 05:55 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Pandaram

How many of those 14 million will be voluntarily dropping medical insurance now that there won't be a fine for not having it?

Count me as 1 for starters.


"The Republican plan would require anyone who has a lapse in their coverage of longer than 63 days in the prior year to pay their insurer a penalty equal to 30 percent of the premium of the individual or small group health plan they are purchasing."

"The GOP proposal to penalize uninsured people when they sign up after a coverage gap is different than the way penalties are applied under Obamacare, also known as the Affordable Care Act."

www.cnbc.com...


Unless you are in the 250K income bracket, you do not escape the purge. Sooner or later in your life you will need to get back in the insurance pool but you better have lots of money.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 06:48 AM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Pandaram

Nothing In Life Is FREE . If those 14 Million really want Healthcare , they will Figure Out a Way to Afford it or Do without . This Is Life........


I have been doing without for a long time, but sooner or later it will catch up to me. At 55 I am lucky to not have had any major medical problems. I work for a living but do not make enough to pay for health insurance. The way I see it once I start going down hill it will be a rapid decline. Without a way to pay for medical cost I will die young. A big part of the cost is due to those on the public dole. They have complete coverage without doing a damn thing to earn it and abuse it to the extreme. Every time they get a hang nail they run to the emergency room thereby driving up cost. I would think that that if there were a limit on the number of times they could do this(exceptions for those that have legitimate reasons) it would bring the overall cost down tremendously.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 07:51 AM
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a reply to: Pandaram

Sure, 14 million would loose coverage..
The question is, what options will be available to them after that, to get re-insured.
It's easy to use numbers like this to stir up emotions, but its not like the 14 million people will loose coverage and have no chance of ever having it again.
I'm in a group plan through work, and the ACA made it much more expensive for my employer to cover us all.
Time will tell what the new plan will bring.
Fingers crossed...



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 08:28 AM
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originally posted by: Felicio
a reply to: Pandaram

Its gonna be a HUGE plan, gonna be fantastic...best ever, all other plans are fake...Trump will build a wall around hospitals to keep those pesky uninsured losers out...its gonna be great...he will keep on winning...


Go peel an orange...



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: Pandaram

Well at least is less than the millions that lost their during the Obamacare take over, you know the ones that could keep their insurance and doctors under Obama.



Now I bet this are the millions that got expanded into the Medicaid when Obama gave a free away of Medicaid to the states that took the expansion.

It doesn't affect my state, GA didn't expanded Medicaid anyway.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 08:35 AM
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a reply to: Pandaram

14 Million over 10 years. No one adds that part.


30 Million lost their plans when Obamacare was enacted.

People are responsible for their own health, healthcare. It is not the responsibility of the state to take care of you.

It's not a great plan, but at least it gets rid of the mandate.

So it's a good start.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 08:37 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Pandaram

How many of those 14 million will be voluntarily dropping medical insurance now that there won't be a fine for not having it?

Count me as 1 for starters.

This is the part that everyone keeps forgetting. MANY of the new un-insured with voluntarily go without insurance because the government is no longer forcing them to buy it!



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 08:58 AM
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Of those 14m people, I'd like to see what their salaries are. Isn't it possible that these people make a pretty good chunk of money from retirement or other means? Has anyone actually looked in to this and see who those 14m people are or is this just a number the media dug up?



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: StallionDuck

Well retirees over 62 are roll over into medicare, so they should not count. I think.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 09:19 AM
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What good is having insurance if you're monthly bill is over $1,000 and you're deductibles are over $10,000k. But hey, they're insured! Win for Obama!



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 09:24 AM
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a reply to: Pandaram

And does it say how many would lose insurance due to the implosion of Obamacare?, it was flawed and doomed since it started, you can not keep your Doctor, costs are going up and up, healthcare providers are jumping ship so what is there to save? a tax on the American worker?
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