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originally posted by: Byrd
This is one of the huge factors that affects our schools.
There is a current distrust of the value of "higher education" (as you can see, anecdotally, all over this board and Facebook and a lot of other places.) In part this is due to the high cost of student loans, but it's also due to the idolization of people who seem to have gotten fame and fortune with little of the struggle one goes through to get a college education (or more.)
Our heroes (as shown in the media) are not highly educated people (I was watching a pre-recorded episode of the highly improbable "McGuyver" last night and noted that Ye Hero didn't complete any education beyond possibly high school but is presented as the marvelous genius who can do anything.) And let us also count all the "hackers" who were "hired by those multi-letter agencies right out of high school or without finishing college." If we are in dire need of a workforce with little literacy and a lot of manual skills (which is a bad life strategy, I should add, since age-related changes such as arthritis can make it very difficult to do manual work at a time (midlife) when you need more income (kids, parents needing help)) then these are the kinds of heroes we need to show... along with musicians and athletes.
We could, I suppose, entertain the option of allowing people to drop out of school and enter trade school during the 10th grade (I have a vague memory that this was done in other countries.) This allowed resources to be better focused on the ones who were going to try for college and to better serve those who wanted to "earn money now" and enter the skilled labor force.
I think standardization is the first mistake. Humans are individual, not standard. You cannot test individuals in a standard manner. How individualized testing would look in this case, i can't tell you. But I suspect it has very little to do with filling in bubbles on paper.
I didn't watch that full video, got about 2 minutes into it. Disagreed with just about every single word, and gave up because I would rather comment on it.
originally posted by: Logarock
although some credit used to be given the self educated.
Lots on the right idolize or at least relate to poorly educated celebrities. Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Glenn Beck are HS dropouts. Mark Steyn brags about not even finishing high school.