Dutch embassy and consulate in Turkey sealed off as diplomatic row escalates

a reply to: antoinemarionette

That would make sense seeing the attempted coup failed .

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: antoinemarionette

That would make sense seeing the attempted coup failed .

I still think that coup was designed to fail in order to give Erdogan a reason to crack down and seize power.

a reply to: Xcathdra

The Nazi crap is getting tiresome. These idiots aren't even aware of the fact that Germany occupied the Netherlands during WW2. They had resistance groups who fought the Nazis ffs. Don't they teach history lessons anymore? Bunch of morons.

a reply to: Xcathdra

I still think that coup was designed to fail in order to give Erdogan a reason to crack down and seize power.

You could be right as I have been on and off the fence on it but think now that it really did happen now.Its really hard to get any definitive prof but there are some dots that are hard to make go away ...

a reply to: Perfectenemy
Also Hitler had very few opportunities to mistreat Muslims, which has become the new definition of "Nazi". Apparently hostility to Jews is now OK and does not qualify someone as a Nazi.

Someone forgot to bring the camel urine again.

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according to RT (so take it for what you think) Turkish media is also being blocked from entering / reporting inside the country.

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Thank you! I couldn't seem to find one that would stay up. There are reports on Twitter of clashes with water cannons etc.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: DISRAELI
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This appears to be a live feed (discovered via Twitter)

according to RT (so take it for what you think) Turkish media is also being blocked from entering / reporting inside the country.

Just found a Turkish CNN one. (Ugh CNN!!!!)

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Great...she is now deported to my country and turks will be all riled up again. Some turks who support Erdogan are already on there way to Rotterdam. Just put her in a plane and fly her back to Turkey. Germany doesn't need to be involved in this bs.

a reply to: Wookiep
That one appears to have closed this minute. A good shot of horse-mounted riot control launching into a canter, though.

The Spectator Index‏ @spectatorindex 18m18 minutes ago

BREAKING: Dutch police using water cannons to deal with protesters near Turkish consulate who have begun throwing rocks and other items

BNO News‏Verified account @BNONews 2m2 minutes ago More Rotterdam mayor on Erdogan calling the Netherlands Nazi remnants: "Do they know I'm the mayor of a city that was bombed by the Nazis?"

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BREAKING: The Prime Ministers of Turkey and the Netherlands have spoken, agree situation should be calmed down
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Dutch, Turkey Escalate Diplomatic Tit-for-Tat Over Rally Dispute
By Reuters On 3/11/17 at 8:09 PM

The Netherlands barred Turkey's foreign minister from landing in Rotterdam on Saturday in a row over Ankara's political campaigning among Turkish emigres, leading President Tayyip Erdogan to brand its fellow NATO member a "Nazi remnant." The dispute escalated in the evening as Turkey's family minister was prevented by police from entering the Turkish consulate in Rotterdam. Hundreds of protesters waving Turkish flags gathered outside, demanding to see the minister.

Two Dutch broadcasters said the minister, Fatma Betul Sayan Kaya, was detained by Dutch authorities to prevent her from addressing the crowd. RTL said Kaya was declared an "undesirable alien" and would be escorted to Germany.

The decision to detain the minister came as roughly 2,000 pro-Erdogan protesters were gathered outside the consulate in Rotterdam. The news of plans to return her to Germany drew boos and whistling through the crowd as police in riot gear and on horseback warned that they would use force to disperse protesters.

Turkey's foreign ministry said it did not want the Dutch ambassador to Ankara to return from leave "for some time." Turkish authorities sealed off the Dutch embassy in Ankara and consulate in Istanbul in apparent retaliation and hundreds gathered there for protests at the Dutch action.

President Erdogan is looking to the large number of emigre Turks living in Europe, especially in Germany and the Netherlands, to help clinch victory next month in a referendum that would give the presidency sweeping new powers.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has said she will do everything possible to prevent Turkish political tensions spilling onto German soil and four rallies in Austria and one in Switzerland have been canceled due to the growing dispute.

a reply to: antoinemarionette

The Turks are garnering votes of the expats in the rest of Europe I suspect
I think this has a lot to do with the changes to the constitution of Turkey referendum coming up in April
this is one of the interesting Articles to be amended:

Article 87

The powers of Parliament to scrutinize ministers and hold the government to account, as well as granting ministers the power to issue decrees regarding certain matters, are abolished.

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a reply to: Xcathdra

Yeah agreed I quickly posted without reading the whole thread....some have suggested that Erdogan see's himself as a leader of a new Caliphate

This will encourage Dutch voters who are on the fence to vote for Geert Wilders in the election on Wednesday.

Riot on, muslims. Riot on.

It seems Turkey has been trying to stir up civil unrest across the EU. If they werent a NATO member, that would be real close to an act of war.

Erdogan is playing dangerous games, which was to be expected from a man who said that democracy is the train to his destination.
First of all, Turkish electoral law prohibits campaigning on foreign ground.
But that has been happening in the last 2 decades and it has grown to the extent that there is question of far reaching influence of Erdogan in European countries.
These were not just Dutch turks in Rotterdam, there have been several colonne's coming to the Netherlands from Germany.
The best way to put it would be 'organized' and done to cause uproar.
On march 3, the Dutch government notified the Turkish autorities that The Netherlands deem Turkish campaigning in the Netherlands for a Turkish domestic referendum unwelcome.
The reaction of the Turkish minister of foreign affairs was that the Netherlands nor anyone else would prevent him from campaigning and speaking to Turkish state citizens.

It seemed that the dutch government would not be to difficult about his appearance in Rotterdam, however when it became known that a public call was made to the Turks which stated them to come to Rotterdam to take part in a massive manifestation, this all changed.
On grounds of public order and safety in Rotterdam, the Netherlands retracted the landing rights of the Turkish government plane.
The minister of family which was stopped on her way to Rotterdam had entered the Netherlands without notifying the dutch authorities and was provocative in nature.

TRT, the turkish CNN for hours talked about clashes and hundred thousands of turks being mistreated, the truth is that it was very orderly (probably due to the presence of the anti riot police in large numbers) until past 01:00 am when riots broke out and people started to throw stones and other stuff towards the police.
By that time the minister of family was already being escorted on her way back to Germany.

Robert Amsterdam was on TRT the whole evening, saying how wrong the dutch government was, quite a laughable statement from the American lawyer, he probable made some good money tonight.