a reply to: truthtalk44
For starters, it's always handy to keep one foot in reality when venturing down the rabbithole. Regardless if nuclear weapons are fake, the earth is
flat and/or reptilians exist, you still share the same reality with the rest of us. Your childhood is still real, the people you love, the
relationships you have etc.
It's sorta the same thing I say when people start spewing # about us living holographic universe and how nothing is real. I think a holographic
universe is likely, and quantum physicists should agree, because non-locality is essentially a fancy word for the holographic nature of our
The point to take away here is that when watching (good) conspiracy material (and consequently having your mind blown over and over again), always
remember the significance of your own life/experiences and how no theory will ever affect those.
Aight now the fun part, my opinion on these theories:
I'm not sold on this yet. The problem why it's so hard for me to accept this one is because the science is there, and checks out. (it's one of those
cases where I do believe mainstream science) Nuclear power seems to be a real thing, as are nuclear disasters and their fallout (there's hundred of
docus on the effects of radiation exposure).
I'dd need a pretty damn good alternative explanation for all those events listed (nuclear powerplants, nuclear waste, meltdowns, ...) and I haven't
found a cohesive one. I'm always open to links to material.
- Ball Earth and planets:
On the fence, as are more people than most like to admit. The thing isn't necessarily that I believe the flat earth theory, but rather that I have
serious questions for our ball earth model.
For starters, other planets (and celestial objects) do appear round (the phases of the moon are good proof), yet that doesn't necessarily mean the
earth is. Every
other planet (and celestial object) seems barren and desolate, yet we know for a fact the Earth isn't. So to extrapolate that
every other planet must be like Earth seems a flawed persepective to begin with.
We (I) don't know the shape of the Earth, and to date I have yet to see a picture that's void of controversy. NASA seems to be fond of fisseye lenses
(plenty of proof for that, it's not even a conspiracy), and there's endless dubious material coming from their end. It's also a pretty well known fact
the "Blue Marble" picture we all know and love is a composite.
So I came to the conlusion that I probably would never be satisfied with "visual" material (a photo or video) because I know, this day and age, we can
fake it. Every Hollywood blockbuster packing breathtaking space visuals proofs this point.
This led me to more empirical ways we can distill the shape of the Earth, and we can, through measuring the actual curvature. This on it's own creates
plenty of controversies, particularly when measuring the curvature of the horizon through pictures and videos (at large height) over large bodies of
water, concidering water always remains level. The same previous issues still exist, where fisheye lenses are a thing and the fact that most (if not
all) material comes from very limited and dubious sources for a conspiracy theorist.
On top of this, none of the 'measuring earth's curvature at x height' material on youtube ended up sealing the deal for me. I've seen videos with
curvature at 60,000 feet, yet I've seen videos at greater height (www.youtube.com...
) where there is less apparent curvature
than in other videos on a way lower height, it just confuses the # out of me. (I know the Earth isn't a perfect sphere, even with that in mind) So I,
again, tried to go on to more empirical ways of finding out the curvature, preferably not through checking by holding a ruler to my computer screen to
'measure' the curve of the horizon on a pauzed youtube video...
This led me to laser curvature measuring tests (www.youtube.com...
). And this is the currently where I
sit in the flat earth debate: Why is it so hard to detect the curvature using lasers? From the link I listed, there's cleary hundreds (if not
thousands) of videos of different, independant people trying to measure the curve through lasers, without success.
As far as I know, lasers shouldn't curve "with" the Earth (that's not how they work), so even over a 1 mile stretch, there should be a noticable
curve, especially with the precision of modern day, consumer grade, lasers, and there isn't. Even over vast amount of distances (I've seen a 30+ mile
video test somwhere), where there should be hundreds of meters
of curvature, there simply isn't.
So that's where flat earth left me. I have questions which I haven't found the anwser to yet, but I've also come to the conclusion there's a near epic
amount of shilling and degenerative behaviour towards the flat earth. I can only hope it gets pushed more into the mainstream, in order to find my
- Space and a big universe out there
Fits in heavily with flat earth, or the nature of our reality more precise. I've always been a heavy space enthousiast (even before I was into
conspiracies), but even I have to admit that the images I have in my mind when imagining deep space (or even our own solar system's planets) are
nothing more than remnants of watching Hollywood movies and all of NASA's computer generated images. Similarly to the "Blue Marble" image we have when
we imagine Earth, most other pictures we imagine when we think about planets/galaxies are (openly admitted) computer generated images by NASA.
- HIV and probably a variety of other fake deceases and infections
Most likely what the conspiracy theorists are saying. I've seen enough material on the human genome, what we're capable of (or could be capable of),
and this theory simply isn't "that far out there". I can come up with numerous reasons why
people (our elites) would want to create these
things, and I can come up with a variety of explanations (in layman terms) on how they couldve done it. -The science exists, it's mostly ethics
holding us (the mainstream) back-
- The vote and elections
I suppose I truly believe we're being ruled by a hidden elite (for many centuries now) and that voting/elections being rigged is the normal rather
than exception. Without the internet, Trump wouldn't have won. He could be controlled oposition, but I'm open to the possibility the people (99%)
actually broke through. The elites wanted HIllary to run against Trump for an easy victory, that didn't happen, and I believe their arrogance could be
Regardless, I personally believe we have to tools to "ascend" voting and politics in the classical sense. There's no more need to have representatives
when we have the internet. In the early days of modern humanity, there was a specific reason why people elected representatives and leaders; they
weren't as connected as we are today. I believe humanity has had the tools to organize itself (government) without the need for pyramid-based
structures the day the internet was invented. Yet, I also realize this subject matter is probably too complex for alot of people to even be willing to
engage in, and it's alot easier to stick to the old paradigm. (We elect leaders cuz we need to be led)
Long Post Will Continue.
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