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The American Health Care Act replaces the ACA-Obamacare.

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posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 11:48 PM
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March 10, 2017

As a talk-radio host said recently, President Trump has Congress working like they've never worked before. They are moving at "Trump Speed" to get the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare) replacement, the American Health Care Act (AHCA), moved through House committees, and out for a full House vote, in the next 10 days.

Today, a VERY critical endorsement of the AHCA was received. Critical, because ANTHEM Blue Cross/Blue Shield is the 2nd largest health insurance company in America. Anthem will be insuring many millions of citizens under the AHCA.

""The CEO of the nation's second-largest health insurance company has endorsed a plan by House Republicans to repeal and replace Obamacare — urging legislators to move "as quickly as possible" because the "time to act is now."

Joseph Swedish, chief executive of Anthem Inc., said in a letter Thursday that the proposal "addresses the challenges immediately facing the individual market and will ensure more affordable health plan choices for consumers in the short term.""

Source: www.politico.com...

Frequently Updated House-GOP Website, listing the AHCA's Goals and Progress.
housegop.leadpages.co...

-CareWeMust

FYI...ATS moderators deleted my last thread on this subject, so I tweaked it, and am reposting. Hoping this one "sticks". I plan to add to it, as the American Health Care Act continues to take shape, and is eventually signed into law by President Trump.




posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 11:55 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

I'm creeped out by the 30% "fee" on top of the premium due for those that haven't had insurance.



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 12:36 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Of course insurance companies like it. Doctors, nurses, hospitals and patients don't like it though.



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 12:43 AM
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What was wrong with your last thread on the same topic?

It is right here Click Here

Do we really need yet another one?

P



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 12:44 AM
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I'm no fan of the ACA, but anything an insurance company is for is likely to be everything tax payers are against.

They make their money by betting they can charge more on average then they have to pay.
Corrupting government into forcing us to pay turns it into straight up extortion.

Ban insurance- then we might see the true face of health care.



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 12:46 AM
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Pelosi wants to see what's in it before they pass it ...



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 12:47 AM
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a reply to: Ameilia

I'm creeped out by anything that wold seem to be passed in late on Friday....



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 12:48 AM
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a reply to: Kali74

What's interesting in reading article after article, is that those who like it, don't say WHY. And those who don't like it, don't say WHY.



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 01:01 AM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
What was wrong with your last thread on the same topic?

It is right here Click Here

Do we really need yet another one?

P


That thread you linked to was started on Feb 7th to discuss whether or not Congress would quit sitting on their arses, and get to work on a Repeal/Replace bill. Now we finally have one...the American Health Care Act. Hence this new open-ended thread that can go and go, as long as the AHCA exists.

The thread that ATS deleted was started on this past Monday, when the AHCA was unveiled. Someone started a AHCA thread a few minutes earlier than I did, and complained to the Mods about mine. Theirs was titled poorly though..so it died on the vine.



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 01:04 AM
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originally posted by: IcyPatriot
Pelosi wants to see what's in it before they pass it ...


Fortunately, Pelosi's vote of YEA or NEA counts for nothing this time around.. much like everything else she does, or says, in the current environment.



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 01:07 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: IcyPatriot
Pelosi wants to see what's in it before they pass it ...


Fortunately, Pelosi's vote of YEA or NEA counts for nothing this time around.. much like everything else she does, or says, in the current environment.


Agree ... the real fun will be watching rat face Schumer babble about it.



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 01:12 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

The AMA announced today that they oppose the bill because they are concerned too many patients will lose their ccoverage.

New York Times



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 01:24 AM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: carewemust

The AMA announced today that they oppose the bill because they are concerned too many patients will lose their ccoverage.

New York Times


In other words, their opposition carries the same weight as your post, no disrespect.

in fact, from your article,

"The A.M.A. had earlier endorsed Dr. Tom Price as President Trump’s choice to head the Department of Health and Human Services, provoking a split with rank-and-file doctors and nurses who opposed his nomination." (Abelson et.Al)

Seems like they are having their own internal issues. I wouldn't put too much faith in a fractured group right now.

References:
www.nytimes.com...



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 01:26 AM
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originally posted by: Ameilia
a reply to: carewemust

I'm creeped out by the 30% "fee" on top of the premium due for those that haven't had insurance.


The way the bill is currently written, that 30% penalty-fee would only be reflected on the FIRST policy you buy, after having gone 63 days without health insurance. TIP: If you wait a few months (or maybe less!), you could get another one, sans the penalty-fee.

What really concerns me the most, is that there doesn't seem to be a system to stop people from waiting until they get sick, to buy a policy. That 30% penalty-fee is NOTHING, if you don't have insurance, but find out that you need an operation, or cancer treatment. Buy a policy...pay 30%...get the medical treatment...recover...cancel the policy. That's why ObamaCare had "Open Enrollment"...a specific 90 day window for buying health insurance. It would take too many people "gaming the system" like this, to force every health insurer to leave the individual/family market.

If that happened America would be taken to "Single Payer" government-run healthcare VERY quickly. Wouldn't it be ironic if Republicans were responsible for this!? If there are no protections against this type of system-gaming, Progressives should be 110% behind the American Health Care Act, IMO.



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 01:31 AM
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originally posted by: IcyPatriot

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: IcyPatriot
Pelosi wants to see what's in it before they pass it ...


Fortunately, Pelosi's vote of YEA or NEA counts for nothing this time around.. much like everything else she does, or says, in the current environment.


Agree ... the real fun will be watching rat face Schumer babble about it.


Maybe Schumer will find some poor teen girl who was denied her abortion. Hold a press conference and cry big crocodile tears, like he did last month over an illegal immigrant's plight.



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 01:32 AM
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I live in a poor third world country where at least 95% of the residents do not have medical insurance. You can walk into a pharmacy and talk to a pharmacist and tell them what kind of medical problems your are having and buy the pills direct at probably 1/10th the cost of stateside. A scheduled doctor's appoint at a pay as you go hospital can cost as little as ten bucks.. A two night stay (three days) in a pay as you go hospital for a private room cost me 500usd and that also consisted of many test (possible mosquito born type illness) to include a cat scan.... I had gotten food poisoning and was given some little white pills that had me wanting to play golf the next day..

You can go to a government hospital and it is much cheaper (but crowded) for just about free except for the meds... Also there are neighborhood clinics which can do all kinds of things to include sowing up wounds and disinfecting problem areas... cost 10 usd... I compare some of this to my wife's 4 day visit to a hospital stay in the states (where she died) and the hospital billed the insurance company 265,000usd... The insurance paid them 90,000 and they settled.. Thank goodness for if it had just been me trying to argue and pay I would have gone bankrupt or still be working...

As far as I am concerned anything the government has a hand in will cost the citizens double or triple the cost it would if they just let the market take care of itself.. Build a private bridge at 20% the cost of a government bridge and it might last longer not to mention be completed in a fraction of the time... Build an airplane in the free market where there are competitors and watch the prices fall.. To long companies have survived from gouging the government tit IMO. Open the stupid cross border insurance and let competition flourish and send CEOs to jail for collusion if they collude and price fix..

Hospitals for profit need to either be nationalized or have severe pricing constants placed upon them... 35usd (18 years ago) for a TV on the wall of you hospital room charged every night you stay or the 9 usd aspirin is stupid and those who say you must pay that are not to smart either.

People fly from all over the world to hospitals here and treatment.. Just had a friend get a hip replacement and it cost him total less than 6000usd for the whole pre and after operation care... yes that included the actual operation.. hip replacement in 2012 was $40,364 in the United States, and about $7,700 to $12,000 in most European countries. Why because of insurance and pay for profit hospitals... Screw them





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posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 01:36 AM
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As someone who wanted the ACA repealed and had zero interest in seeing it replaced, reissued, or left in place in any manner, I'm not happy with this.



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 01:37 AM
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originally posted by: lordcomac
I'm no fan of the ACA, but anything an insurance company is for is likely to be everything tax payers are against.

They make their money by betting they can charge more on average then they have to pay.
Corrupting government into forcing us to pay turns it into straight up extortion.

Ban insurance- then we might see the true face of health care.


You have a point. Already, it's starting to be easy to see WHY certain companies and groups are coming out FOR or AGAINST the American Health Care Act.

For instance, AETNA said Thursday that they will lose quite a bit of money if MEDICAID is trimmed in 2020. They must really be angry now that the Administration is going along with ultra-conservative Congressmen who want Medicaid Expansion defunded at the end of 2017...THIS year.

Aetna gets 48% of it's revenue from the Government's MEDICAID and MEDICARE programs.
Source: www.beckersasc.com...
edit on 3/11/2017 by carewemust because: typo



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 01:39 AM
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a reply to: Arnie123

I would hardly call them fractured. They disagreed about a nominee, they don't seem to disagree about this disaster of a bill. Nurses and hospitals have come out against it as well. Search around.



posted on Mar, 11 2017 @ 01:49 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

That was a wonderful post, 727Sky. My condolences on the loss of your dear wife. I know that was tough, but you seem to be resilient and forward-thinking. You should give yourself a pat on the back for having the strength and intelligence to keep moving forward.

In the country where you're living, I bet the Doctors and Hospital Administrators don't live in gated communities, drive $80,000 Mercedes, and vacation at $1,000 @ night resorts. A few miles from my house is an upscale Chicago suburb, where I estimate, 3 of every 4 residents are in the medical field, and live that opulent lifestyle.



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