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originally posted by: mOjOm
Ya gotta love the Trump Defenders and their dedication to defend Trump even in this. It's like a bunch of Stockholm Syndrome victims.
The problem with cutting the TSA, which I think we all agree has been a disaster from the start, is that it's just going to make a horrible problem worse. By cutting their funding their plan is of course to try and do more with less as if they weren't doing an already bad enough job already. This means that to make up for it they plan on doing more aggressive physical pat downs. They are even warning local police that they may get more reports from people complaining about abusive TSA pat downs now and this is why.
So I guess that's a step toward making America great again huh???? Because aggressive pat downs by the TSA was so fun before, now it's going to get even better. Oh goody, what a great idea.
As for the Coast Guard most of their time is spent intercepting illegals coming here by sea as well as drugs coming here by sea. According to them they are already under staffed and under resourced for intercepting all illegal ships coming here. So when your campaign platform rests so heavily on stopping illegal immigration and drugs you would think cutting back on one of the main agencies stopping that would not be wise choice. But that's what his idea is. Brilliant.
Let's face it. The reason he's building this wall is to say he kept his promise. Even if it means cutting back in places which work against the reason for building that stupid wall to start with. It's like putting a triple lock on your front door and having no locks on your back door. Just more illusions of safety.
All for a dumb wall that we weren't supposed to be paying for in the first place which we are now fitting the bill for at the expence of more important things. Classic Mismanagement of our tax dollars as usual.
originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: UKTruth
That's what he's doing to help pay for the wall.
It's only a small fraction of the funds needed too. What else is being cut for the stupid wall we'll find out soon enough.
But by all means, if you think it's wrong, go right ahead and prove your case or have fun trying.
It is what it is and once again being that you don't even live here in America WTF business is it of yours anyway??? When I want to know what's happening in the UK you'll be the first to know. But don't tell me what's happening in the place where I live because it makes you look arrogant and foolish.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: burgerbuddy
Not the people you see on TV, that's for sure. They're just parroting what they're told to say to drive the narrative forward. Those pulling the strings are not in the spotlight like so many people on these forums believe.
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: yuppa
Keep playing the trumpet miles
originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: MacK80
Exactly. But that's just it. It's all just a big dog and pony show. It's a way for them to spend money on their contractor buddies making a big production over something that keeps people entertained but we all know a big wall is about as stupid an idea as catapults for space travel.
But since he said it he now has to make good on his promise for his short sighted fans who are still stuck back in the 1920's without any understanding of technology.
That doesn't even address the overall idea itself. But as long as people in this country keep feeding themselves on a steady diet of Religious BS rather than science and Luvin them some nascar and bud light and Conservatism that's what we can expect.
No offense to those who fit a couple of those labels but still has their head in the game. I didn't mean you.
originally posted by: TrueBrit
Um, excuse me savemebarry, but your position is untenable. You state that overstaying a visa and entering the country illegally are two different things. But they are not.
First of all, the moment a persons visa expires, they are guilty of the precise same offence as if they had climbed over the border fence, or simply walked over the line in areas where there is not a physical barrier.
Furthermore, their presence in the US illegally, costs the taxpayer the precise same amount once the crime has been committed, regardless of how it was committed.
The undocumented persons in the country, no matter how they arrived, still use sanctuary cities as havens from ICE, still have to get welfare, get work, driving licenses and other forms of ID to get by, thereby committing further offences. That counts whether they hopped off a plane and overstayed a tourist visa, or whether they walked in.
You see, until the very second that a persons visa expires, they are not undocumented.
So, in effect, one person could have been in the US a total of twelve years, but only had documentation for two years. Another person could have been in the US for ten years, but both have been breaking the law for the same number of years, breaking the exact same law mind you, not a different one.
And no, I am not talking about a few stray Brits and Roo Rustlers, but people from all over the world.
It is also worth pointing out, that having focused on just one point I made in the post to which you responded, not to mention having done so in a way which rather exposed some gaps in your understanding of the law on the matter, you roundly failed to respond to at least seventy percent of what I said in my post, and decided instead to talk about the notion of borders in general... I never said that there should be no borders, and I would not say that there should be no borders. What I have said is that treating the physical border with Mexico like a militarised border with an enemy nation, rather than a neigbouring one, is foolish in the extreme, if only because the vast majority of the really dangerous traffic, is coming from nations no where near Mexico, and not nations on that stupid list that the mango buffoon tried to issue either.