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Convince Me That Russia Influenced The Election

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posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 12:37 AM
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Because I haven't seen any one provide any Hardcore Concrete Evidence Beyond a Reasonable Doubt that Russia Influenced the Election. Because I remember a certain President when they thought they were going to win a landslide tell Mr. Trump to stop whining about the Election Rigging.



So let me get this straight was Obama just tilting things towards his direction by wiretapping Trump Tower? He was the party in power just monkeying around with things nothing illegal going on here like tapping General Flynn's phone conversations in Trump Tower.



www.dailywire.com...-modal


The Democrats continue to blame everything but themselves for Hillary Clinton losing the presidential election in November, with the latest excuse being that the Russians hacked the election, even though there is no evidence to support that assertion.




1. Clinton was a terrible candidate.
2. FBI director James Comey re-opening the FBI investigation into Clinton's emails.
3. The Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee had a terrible strategy to win.
4. Clinton wrote off the white-working class vote.
5. Clinton thought she was guaranteed victory.


O and until the Liberal Media starts accepting that Trump is President and stops with the Russian influenced are election BS I will also stop mentioning Hillary and Obama in my posts. But I don't see that happening anytime soon. So if you Lefties on ATS can ignore what President Obama has said about Election Rigging as President and not hold him accountable for "monkeying" around with the results then please prove to me that Russia influenced the elections 100% beyond a reasonable doubt.




posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 01:22 AM
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I wish they could all be put in Gitmo.

They are enemies of the State.

They corrupted the IRS, FBI, DOJ, NSA and the Courts.

No wonder they want Gitmo Closed.

The Military should get involved. This is Treason.

This is America's "Come to Jesus" moment.

Both sides are complicit...

We really did need President Kick A$$..


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posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 01:24 AM
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Prove to me Obama wiretapped Trump tower.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 01:31 AM
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a reply to: Stevemagegod

The closest thing that can be shown is this www.abovetopsecret.com... Other then that I got nothing ...



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 02:11 AM
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a reply to: muse7

Can't have one accusation without the other. Who supposesly knew and said what first? The ones running the show tend to know most.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 02:32 AM
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Just watch CNN for 48 straight hours, and there will be no question in your mind.



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posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 04:49 AM
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Paul Manafort resigns as campaign manager. Article from Aug. well before trump was elected.


Questions have arisen about Manafort's previous work for the political party of the Kremlin-backed former Ukrainian leader, Viktor Yanukovich.

Federal investigators from the U.S. Department of Justice are examining American ties to corruption in Ukraine, CNN reported on Friday. The investigation is looking at the work of Manafort's firm and another lobbying firm, the Podesta Group, headed by Tony Podesta, whose brother, John Podesta, is chairman of Clinton's presidential campaign.

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Flynn resigning?
Sessions recusal?
At what point can these things not be ignored?
Fake news right?
Everything above never really happened right?
It's cool to have the dirt on Clinton but not Trump right?
Collusion with the Russians is acceptable so long as it's your guy right?

You seem to have already concluded that if/when wiretaps occurred they were done so illegally. How do you know this? Because Trump said so? Now I think we can all agree that FISA warrants are a rubber stamp, and we should have a conversation about that. However, that's not necessarily the topic at hand.

...And just to be clear. I've always seen the DNC leaks as uncomfortable but acceptable. I prefer to know the truth about the political figures in my country, not bury my head in the sand when I'm hearing uncomfortable truths.

You've already decided that you have it all figured out so why ask the question?

Truth be told, we don't really know how far collusion went, but there definitely seems to be something there. People don't just resign from high level political positions unless they absolutely have to. To do so is an admittance to wrongdoing and possible career suicide. It's a last resort move.

I think I need to know whether the Trump admin colluded with the Russians to tilt the election in their favor for favors later on, don't you feel the same way?

My position on the Russians has always been one of working towards peaceful cooperation. However, not with a gun to our head. You don't get to interfere with our elections and that's just ok. I don't care if it's Trump, Clinton, Sanders, or whoever benefits. It's a sign of geopolitical disrespect and not conducive for peaceful cooperation. We have our own faults in hostility towards Russia, and that too I take issue with because it's not conducive for peaceful cooperation.

Believe what you like though.




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posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 05:23 AM
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posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 05:28 AM
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a reply to: Stevemagegod
The only truth I have seen was the Democrats having dealings,and money exchanged,the whole Obama Admin should be tried for treason,bunch of lying stealing criminals,bought off media bolstering liberal claims



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 05:28 AM
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posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 05:39 AM
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Hillary won the popular vote, so if they influenced it they did it for Hillary.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 05:48 AM
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a reply to: Stevemagegod

Give it time.

I know that most people have very short attention spans and want their instant gratification, but we will just have to be patient and wait to see how this unfolds.



O and until the Liberal Media starts accepting that Trump is President and stops with the Russian influenced are election BS I will also stop mentioning Hillary and Obama in my posts.


That's pretty childish.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 07:00 AM
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Steve... Putin could get on prime-time national TV and spell-out the whole thing with video evidence and pictures featuring circles and arrows and paragraphs on the back of each one and YOU still wouldn't be convinced. SNIP
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posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: jtma508

If Putin wanted to influence the election, he would have donated to the Clinton Foundation. Oh wait... they did after Hillary sold 20% of US strategic uranium to Russia, on top of the 500k given to Bill for a speech in Moscow.

Not to mention Obama rolling over with Crimea and Russian bankers hiring the Podesta group to lobby for sanctions.

The Democrats have done more for Russia than Trump EVER could, and it just grinds your gears doesn't it? The cognitive dissonance surrounding this topic is astounding.

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posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 08:44 AM
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a reply to: Stevemagegod

Russians have become the boogie-man for the left.

They (the left) refuse to acknowledge that it was their policies and directions that sunk their party.

This has been going on since 2010.

Russians aren't to blame for lost House and Senate seats.
Russians aren't to blame for lost governor seats in many states.

People are tired of the constant lies and BS from the left.

People are tired of the encroaching socialism that seems to be the underlying message from the left.

That's why they lost and will continue to lose.
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posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Anyone who claims Hillary lost because of "Russians" hacking emails is admitting she only could have won if Americans remained ignorant of the corruption and dishonesty the emails revealed.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 09:10 AM
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Flynn resigning? Sessions recusal? At what point can these things not be ignored?

Yet plenty of Democrats heavily involved in Hillary's campaign also had meetings and deals with Russians.
They seem to be ignored.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: Konduit

That's the irony of the whole situation.

If her collusion with the media, if her corruption would have remained hidden, she very well could have become president.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: Stevemagegod


There is none. No influence that could be called a sort of espionage. Just projection and deflection to get the heat off the Libs, smear Trump and make press look like they are doing something for the people.

No one in the press said anything about the UFOs that landed on the White House lawn form time to time during Obama administration.




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