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Officials Say WikiLeaks CIA Leak is Authentic

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posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 01:33 PM
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Well now then it appears that this is official news, the WikiLeaks publication
of the Vault 7 documents are authentic according to the Intelligence and Law
Enforcement Community.



U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials said on Wednesday that they have been aware since the end of last year of a security breach at the CIA that led to anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks publishing agency documents on its hacking tools.

The officials, who asked not to be identified, told Reuters that they believed that the documents published by WikiLeaks on Tuesday were authentic.

Investigators were focusing on CIA contractors as the likely source of passing materials to WikiLeaks, the officials said. The group published what it said were nearly 8,000 of pages of internal CIA discussions about hacking techniques used between 2013 and 2016.
www.reuters.com...


Of particular interest are comments from The Federal Prosecuters Office
in Germany, as it was published in the leak that the CIA ran a hacking
hub from the U.S. consulate in Frankfurt.

This is following the NSA/Snowden leaks that have been verified
to be real, does open up a whole discussion if people are interested,
as the implications are far and wide, and especially explosive
and potentially damaging as by all evidence incorporated it
appears this likely was in play during The U.S. 2016 election.

I for one think it is a positive step that the IC community
acknowledges this as real, as much as I have mixed feelings
on the various aspects of the impact it will have for a long
time to come.

At least we can discuss this without the dismissals that
Vault 7 and all of the subsequent leaks to come may
indeed be just as real.

Adding Wikileaks Twitter here at the end:
twitter.com...

And seeing a report coming in from AP about Wikileaks working
with Tech Giants? Something is giving me chills....


The anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks raised the prospect Wednesday of sharing sensitive details it uncovered about CIA hacking tools with leading technology companies whose flagship products and services were targeted by the U.S. government's hacker-spies.

If that sharing should take place, the unusual cooperation would give companies like Apple, Google, Microsoft, Samsung and others an opportunity to identify and repair any flaws in their software and devices that were being exploited by U.S. spy agencies and some foreign allies, as described in nearly 9,000 pages of secret CIA files WikiLeaks published on Tuesday.

The documents, which the White House declined anew Wednesday to confirm as authentic, describe clandestine methods for bypassing or defeating encryption, antivirus tools and other protective security features for computers, mobile phones and even smart TVs. They include the world's most popular technology platforms, including Apple's iPhones and iPads, Google's Android phones and the Microsoft Windows operating system for desktop computers and laptops. abcnews.go.com...




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posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 01:46 PM
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Edward Snowden should be tried for treason, said Trump, on a number of occasions. Now he claims he has been spied upon, does he still feel the same?



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 01:47 PM
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Nothin but crickets from the CIA though



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: Cobaltic1978

All questions are good in this case, imo.

I'd really like to hear Trumps opinion to be honest,
but he as POTUS is likely going to toe the line on this one
and not comment as there is too much at stake if breaks
out of protcol.

As I said upfront, I have mixed feelings and will admit that
I am likely operating with some CogDis.

I'll be more interested to hear comments from Rand Paul.



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 01:54 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
Well now then it appears that this is official news, the WikiLeaks publication
of the Vault 7 documents are authentic according to the Intelligence and Law
Enforcement Community.



U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials said on Wednesday that they have been aware since the end of last year of a security breach at the CIA that led to anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks publishing agency documents on its hacking tools.

The officials, who asked not to be identified, told Reuters that they believed that the documents published by WikiLeaks on Tuesday were authentic.

Investigators were focusing on CIA contractors as the likely source of passing materials to WikiLeaks, the officials said. The group published what it said were nearly 8,000 of pages of internal CIA discussions about hacking techniques used between 2013 and 2016.
www.reuters.com...


Of particular interest are comments from The Federal Prosecuters Office
in Germany, as it was published in the leak that the CIA ran a hacking
hub from the U.S. consulate in Frankfurt.

This following the NSA/Snowden leaks that have been verified
to be real. This does open up a whole discussion if people are interested,
as the implications are far and wide, and especially explosive
and potentially damaging as by all evidence incorporated it
appears this likely was in play during The U.S. 2016 election.

I for one think it is a positive step that the IC community
acknowledges this as real, as much as I have mixed feelings
on the various aspects of the impact it will have for a long
time to come.

At least we can discuss this without the dismissals that
Vault 7 and all of the subsequent leaks to come may
indeed be just as real.




Buddy i think some people will just try attack wikileaks founder instead of what he provided because they know its true or attack why he released it instead of paying attention to what is in it.

The russian collusion with trump story is dead. period! Over! Done! Bye bye!

I understand people here hate trump and want him to be impeached so bad they will believe anything and hate anyone who disagrees with them!

Back on topic what this shows is a massive power bubble with no real oversite or rules regarding everyone. While on a military level i love the fact they have this however on a personal level its an abuse of power on our citizens right to privacy! Here are the problems, its clouded in secret, we assume its missions are for the best interest of our country but cant be sure and there seems be be no level oversite of power that keeps them in check with at lest americans. Now if you said only foriegn counties got this treatment i would say hey thats the spy game however its diffrent when they are loading malware and hardware into routers before americans get them.



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 01:54 PM
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Sorry double post
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posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 01:56 PM
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originally posted by: FamCore
Nothin but crickets from the CIA though


For now. If that Frankfurt hub is real?
Unreal ....

With the previous NSA tap, this could get sticky.

www.dw.com...



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: digital01anarchy
I think some people will just try attack wikileaks founder instead of what he provided because they know its true or attack why he released it instead of paying attention to what is in it.


Well, most certainly there will be an official response from
law enforcement, and politicians as well. I suspect some of
them, especially politicians may have to a degree an opinion
they wont voice for fear of reprisal.

I do find it interesting that Obama commuted Mannings sentence.
And will admit that I myself have held a far more critical opinion
of WikiLeaks in past than I do now, not to say that I approve of
hacking by any stretch.



The russian collusion with trump story is dead. period! Over! Done! Bye bye!


Agreed, and my main reason for posting the thread.
I'll probably live to regret it ahaha.



Back on topic what this shows is a massive power bubble with no real oversite or rules regarding everyone. While on a military level i love the fact they have this however on a personal level its an abuse of power on our citizens right to privacy! Here are the problems, its clouded in secret, we assume its missions are for the best interest of our country but cant be sure and there seems be be no level oversite of power that keeps them in check with at lest americans. Now if you said only foriegn counties got this treatment i would say hey thats the spy game however its diffrent when they are loading malware and hardware into routers before americans get them.


Well said, pretty much sums up my feelings at the moment.

I wont be arguing with anyone really, for the most part.



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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Oh so now we are taking unnamed "officials" as a source?

But if it's anti-Trump it's nonsense....

Glad we aren't being hypocritical.



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 02:12 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

I wonder who doubted the authenticity, considering Wiki-leaks track record of accuracy with USA items?



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
Edward Snowden should be tried for treason, said Trump, on a number of occasions. Now he claims he has been spied upon, does he still feel the same?

I'm convinced at this point in time that Prez Trump is a patriot and is in no way in collusion with Russia. However, the question you raise is one of the points I'll judge the President on.

Will he try and reverse the way "national security" is used on us and to hide incompetence and evil deeds? If not, then he will certainly fail my personal test and I will join the haters.


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posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: Jefferton
Oh so now we are taking unnamed "officials" as a source?

But if it's anti-Trump it's nonsense....

Glad we aren't being hypocritical.


Well, I'll admit that this article does not name a
particular source, something tells me I dont think
you will have to wait too long for a name or two.

If, as Wikileaks says they only have released less
than 1% www.abovetopsecret.com...
this is going to be the worse leak ever.

As I said, I don't even mind being called a hypocrite
for posting this, I hold the discussion as more important.



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

RE:
""U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials said on Wednesday that they have been aware since the end of last year of a security breach at the CIA that led to anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks publishing agency documents on its hacking tools.""

Since Wiki-leaks is the publisher...WHO is the hacker? That person must be a GENIUS. Or, the CIA systems are maintained by government people earning $75,000.



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

I hope you don't mind if I agree with you sir,
One thing I will say, there must be a better way than this.

I'm going to add that I don't think it is a coincidence
that this came down on his watch either.

I have about 3 different avenues of thought,
suppose only time will tell.



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posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 02:23 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: burntheships

I wonder who doubted the authenticity, considering Wiki-leaks track record of accuracy with USA items?


Yes, true to note your comment is spot on. I read even the
authorities say there are only two small things in the history
of accuracy, they were so insignificant I don't recall.

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posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: FamCore

These guys pride themselves on being the guardians of secrets. It's embarrassing and gives NSA or any of the 16 other agencies under the NATSEC umbrella the edge on funding at the same time.
This is a disaster for CIA...Or there is another reason for it. One that I discussed on this same thread. I'm new enough to not know if I should reiterate it and ask for you to look at maybe my posts? I don't know if our posts are viewable somewhere on the site. Or, edits for that matter. Hmm.



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 02:36 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: FamCore
Nothin but crickets from the CIA though


For now. If that Frankfurt hub is real?
Unreal ....

With the previous NSA tap, this could get sticky.

www.dw.com...



You can be sure that it is real, german "conspiracy theorists", or better people that are interested in their environment they have to live in, can tell you about the several US eavesdrop stations across Germany.
In Frankfurt the antidemocratic US alphabet agencies want to be first in the DE-CIX

"Deutscher Commercial Internet Exchange (German Commercial Internet Exchange) (DE-CIX) is a carrier and data center-neutral internet exchange point (IXP) situated in Frankfurt (Germany). It is the largest exchange point worldwide in terms of peak traffic with a maximum throughput of more than 5 terabits per second"

The funny thing is, Vault7 told us nothing new yet, but we are just at 1% xD
. The informations about Frankfurt, Bad Aibling("Funny", how things in the english section of wikipedia are missing, if it critical reporting about the USA. The part Military and Secret Services doesn´t exist in english. I guess it´s just a coincidence xD) or the listening stations on the US ambassador roof in Berlin(just to name a few but prominent cases) are out for years, and everybody who is interested can read everything about it.




posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 02:37 PM
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if Wikileaks was an intelligence agency, it would be winning 10-0 by now.



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 02:41 PM
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so... wikileaks exposes the cia and no one gives two squirts of piss... because the U.S. and its intelligence agencies arent the only governance which spies on people (legally or illegally)...

yea, the government has tools to hack into devices, why wouldnt they? why shouldnt they? arent other foreign agencies trying to actively spy on the U.S.?

those who gave up their liberty for safety deserve neither. the people and congress (right majority at the time) of the U.S. gave the green light for such activities.. in fear of terrisss... now we're shocked at the level of cynicism... puhhllease.



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

This thought arrived in my mind this morning...what if the CIA wanted and allowed the leak of information to happen...for their own hidden agendas. It's possible....I'm just sayin.



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