CNN head, Jeff Zucker: politicians should defend the media from Trump's "attacks".

a reply to: gladtobehere

MOST Politicians hate CNN too. They just don't have the balls to speak their mind against the MSM like Trump does.

a reply to: TheBulk

It's not "fake news", lol, but that was the topic of the lawsuit!

The Media Can Legally Lie, Here's the Proof | In 2003, "Fox lawyers argued it was their first amendment right to report false information" – and Won!

"In a stunningly narrow interpretation of FCC rules, the Florida Appeals court claimed that the FCC policy against falsification of the news does not rise to the level of a "law, rule, or regulation," it was simply a "policy." Therefore, it is up to the station whether or not it wants to report honestly."

a reply to: gladtobehere

At this point the media is in the business of telling us what they think we should hear, while leaving out what they don't want us to. The ethical principle of fairness and accuracy is missing. Trump is not attacking the free press at all, but the propaganda machines people have become wedded to.

a reply to: TheBulk

No, I distinctly remember that case.

In broad strokes, two investigative reporters were trying to push a story about milk. Fox execs postponed and finally buried the story at the request of a corporation. The reporters were upset that their story got squashed and they went public. Fox fired them. They successfully sued Fox under the whistle blower protection act. Fox appealed the case five times before it got to the state supreme court. There, Fox argued that the whistle blower protection act did not apply because the act specifically dealt with employees that expose actions that are illegal or against company policy. Fox argued that it was under no legal obligation to tell the truth in their news reporting, nor was it their company policy to do so. The state supreme court agreed and the reporters lost the lawsuit.

a reply to: reldra

I would agree with that, First Amendment and all, the media must have access as should the average citizen.

But is it their job to stop a fellow public servant from criticizing the media?

I would say no.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: gladtobehere

At this point the media is in the business of telling us what they think we should hear, while leaving out what they don't want us to. The ethical principle of fairness and accuracy is missing. Trump is not attacking the free press at all, but the propaganda machines people have become wedded to.

Precise , and to the Point . The Perpetuation of Disinformation and Outright Untruths is what We All must Endure Until the Media , and Certain Agencies within the Federal Government on both sides of the Political Spectrum , are Cleansed of the Corruption they have Embraced Out of a Unjustified Abhorance of Reporting on Only the Reality of Current Events at Home and Around the World . Will that Day Ever Come ? Stay Tuned..........

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

There's the quote from Thomas Jefferson about fake news that Trump used at his last Florida rally, and Jefferson makes a great argument:

"It is a melancholy truth, that a suppression of the press could not more compleatly deprive the nation of it's benefits, than is done by it's abandoned prostitution to falsehood. Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knolege with the lies of the day. I really look with commiseration over the great body of my fellow citizens, who, reading newspapers, live & die in the belief, that they have known something of what has been passing in the world in their time; whereas the accounts they have read in newspapers are just as true a history of any other period of the world as of the present, except that the real names of the day are affixed to their fables. General facts may indeed be collected from them, such as that Europe is now at war, that Bonaparte has been a successful warrior, that he has subjected a great portion of Europe to his will, &c., &c.; but no details can be relied on. I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors. He who reads nothing will still learn the great facts, and the details are all false."

Even then, the press was a polluted vehicle from which to derive truth, yet some people get all their information from it. It's this polluted vehicle of information that deprives the nation of the benefits of a free press more than the suppression of press ever could.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

" Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle "


Man , that Tommy J. was One Smart Dude Even back then . It just Proves to me the Age Old Axium ........." Those Who Forget The Mistakes Of The Past , Are Doomed To Repeat Them " . I Guess Human Natural is Immune to Evolution if you Believe in that Stuff..Hmm...

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: gladtobehere

Yes, it is their responsibility to make sure we have a free press.

Free Press? Do you mean free as in; free to subject one candidate to unbalanced scrutiny and unproven accusations while offering the questions ahead of a debates to their preferred candidates?
Obviously, Trump saw the game and held them to the fire for their brazen behavior before and after the election.

free press isn't free anymore when it's being used to dictate political and social behaviors to disrupt government operations and policies the same way religious institutions used to before the west became secular.

the way i see it freedom is for the individual not large entities with potential ambitions and influences which can disrupt society for money or otherwise and there should be separation between the media and the state just as with religion so that harmful propaganda can't disrupt society in the guise of freedom.

i mean freedom is good until large powerful entities with far more money have more influence than everyone else, people are so enamoured with freedom they can't seem to notice the parallels between the church of the past and the media of today.

who cares about trump but it's about time i see people taking shots at the media instead of cowering in fear of retaliation and speaking in a convoluted manner which protects them, seriously people need to stop treating the media like some sacred institution of worship.

all i see is an institution of coercion and intimidation for the ambitions and machinations of the rich and powerful.

CNN is in deep with the spy game. Their collusion with the DNC/Podesta/Hillary, and the Okeefe Project Veritas sting was nothing compared to what going to be revealed about them soon. Zucker is panicking.

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: gladtobehere

Yes, it is their responsibility to make sure we have a free press.

Trump has nothing against a free press. They just need to stop lying.

BTW .. when Obama was illegally spying on the press, that was an actual attempt at destroying a free press.

April 30, 2018

BOOM! CNN's President (Jeff Zucker) COLLUDES with foreign governments.
twitter.com...

originally posted by: carewemust
April 30, 2018

BOOM! CNN's President (Jeff Zucker) COLLUDES with foreign governments.
twitter.com...

He's Zucked now for sure.

😎

a reply to: carewemust

Blahaha, best necrothread today!

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: carewemust
April 30, 2018

BOOM! CNN's President (Jeff Zucker) COLLUDES with foreign governments.
twitter.com...

He's Zucked now for sure.

😎

CNN is the only network to escape big scandals. But the chickens are coming back to roost and poop, all over Domestic Terrorist Zucker.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: carewemust
April 30, 2018

BOOM! CNN's President (Jeff Zucker) COLLUDES with foreign governments.
twitter.com...

He's Zucked now for sure.

CNN is the only network to escape big scandals. But the chickens are coming back to roost and poop, all over Domestic Terrorist Zucker.

Just wait till the Swallows come back from Capistrano.

😮

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: carewemust
April 30, 2018

BOOM! CNN's President (Jeff Zucker) COLLUDES with foreign governments.
twitter.com...

He's Zucked now for sure.

CNN is the only network to escape big scandals. But the chickens are coming back to roost and poop, all over Domestic Terrorist Zucker.

Just wait till the Swallows come back from Capistrano.

😮

Maybe they'll land on Zucker and pluck out his eyes, like in that old movie "The birds".

a reply to: reldra

Let me tell you where you stray into error: you are confusing words and actions.

To attack something requires action. You cannot point to any action taken by Trump against media.

What Trump has are opinions. Opinions are not attacks, and asserting such does more to damage the 1st Amendment than any of Trumps opinions ever could.

Incidentally, many people agree with Trumps opinion. It was actually a rather popular opinion on ATS before political partisanship turned conspiracy theorists into irrational supporters of corporate media.

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: reldra

It is incredulous that Trump keeps destroying the china shop.

It's incredulous that you keep defending CNN despite the proven bias and collusion they have been shown to be involved in.

Trump can say anything he wants, just like cnn can.

Being President doesn't eliminate 1st amendment rights.

The media has been free foaming against him for 2 yrs. Along with elected officials, seemingly against their voters too.

Who will be left standing in 2018 and 2020?!