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Wikileaks: CIA 'Stole' Russian Malware, Uses It to ‘Misdirect Attribution’ of Cyber Attacks

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posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Diisenchanted

you mean the fake news media save for russia-insider.com
which fake news do you mean?


This one will be very slow to metastasize in the mainstream media thanks to it's ramifications and the current media establishment zeitgeist's revulsion against wikileaks. There's not a question of whether the CIA can mimic another group in their hacking efforts, the only question is whether that's what happened with the alleged Russian hacks.




posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Diisenchanted

you mean the fake news media save for russia-insider.com
which fake news do you mean?


This one will be very slow to metastasize in the mainstream media thanks to it's ramifications and the current media establishment zeitgeist's revulsion against wikileaks. There's not a question of whether the CIA can mimic another group in their hacking efforts, the only question is whether that's what happened with the alleged Russian hacks.


And therein lies the problem. With this new wikileaks dump, it has given people the idea that the CIA did, in fact, hack the DNC and that Russia was not involved.

But we still do not know that for sure. It still could very well be Russia that was behind it.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: Diisenchanted
a reply to: reldra



Russian Insider. Cute. Is this Stuxnet? There is a very good article in The Guardian and NYT on that.


Sorry I don't read fake-news!



But Rusian Insider is real? I am straining to follow your train of thought there. Not because of the word Russian, really, just because the site has no history or integrity. You weren't even able to link to it properly.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

How better for obama to control Hillary, had she stolen the election, than by having all the dirt on her?

Cheers - Dave



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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From Russian Insider About:




It was started in September 2014 by a group of expats living in Russia who felt that coverage of Russia is biased and inaccurate.


Russia does have an extremely controlled press. They throw journalists in jail for the smallest thing. I find it difficult to believe that some expats living there found coverage of Russia to be inaccurate.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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How convenient the timing is.


If it is true, it's not news...
Russia can do the same, so can China, MI5/6 & Mossad to name but a few.


As introvert said, this gives the impression that the CIA did in fact do just that...
That's why I question the timing, especially with all the finger pointing about Russia/Wikileaks connections recently.
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posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:34 PM
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I love how most of us are distracted by the Russia narrative.

Let's say they did it. We do it too, and even with our allies. So it also says in this dump that they (CIA) have lost the tools to other actor's, so of course Russian spies would jump on that. So in essence, we may have given them those capabilities.

The real problem with all of this is that instead of using this technology in isolated circumstances, the CIA granted permission for it to be used recklessly and here we are.

Now as citizens we have as much privacy as 1940's Germans while we parade around complaining Russia might have done something we do to our allies and citizens while our government goes around the world installing "freedom".

HAAAAA
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posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:36 PM
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Wikileaks has the signature of dumping thousands and thousands of hacked documents. Russia does not. Thousands and thousands of Podesta emails were dumped in October 2016. It does not appear to be Russia's signature.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:36 PM
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a reply to: wacher




Does Russia even know John Podesta's email account?
I think podesta has shares in a Russian energy business so they could .



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:40 PM
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The emails showed us a very corrupt DNC that basically knocked The Burns momentum off the tracts to protect Hillary even though "the people" were jumping from her side for The Burn in droves.... The information in those emails have not been disputed in anyway, so the question is lets say the CIA did do it could we not say that they did it for the good of the people?

I still say it was mostly an insider that didn't like what they were doing to The Burn and took steps to make it all puplic.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:41 PM
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originally posted by: wacher
Wikileaks has the signature of dumping thousands and thousands of hacked documents. Russia does not. Thousands and thousands of Podesta emails were dumped in October 2016. It does not appear to be Russia's signature.


It actually does. That Russia handed them to wikileaks. Until the investigation is done, and I hope it is done well, it is quite possibly the Russian government that had been meddling, bigly.

Trying to call it a false narrative is naive and jumping the gun.
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posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

Another interesting angle.

So assuming Russia did hack that and show it, that's light tampering and they exposed real tampering.

Instead of going after the real villain, they were victimized by spying ultimately unearthing the real tampering.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:43 PM
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posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: Diisenchanted
So does this mean that the lefts entire argument about the Russians hacking the DNC are null and void.

Seems they have no credibility. Russian hackers lol


It's now clear that the CIA is able to "pose" as "Russian hackers" whenever it so chooses.
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So how is the CIA FBI and the Fake news media going to spin this one?


If you can weaponize the IRS and the FBI.

This would be the classic way to launch the perfect hack.

Somebody's a$$ should be going to prison.

They carelessly put us all at risk.


Why do I feel no one will go to prison,



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:44 PM
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a reply to: reldra

I am not sure where you get your news but Newsbud has a report out usually every week where the host goes over the different news sources in Russia .From the official news to the tabloid news .Its worth a watch even once to get a better understanding on what is being reported there and how its reported www.youtube.com...



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:44 PM
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a reply to: reldra

Alright. So that being said they spy, and so do we.

What do you say of the DNC actually doing tampering and not just releasing information we are entitled to with the Freedom of Information Act?
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posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: reldra

If Russia did it, the question is why? Russia never hacked before. Russia isn't hacking in European referendums and elections. Why would Russia have felt the need to hack Podesta? For what reason? AFAIK, Hillary Clinton is quite cozy with Russia, no?



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

I imagine they can. But that doesn't mean it is true on all occasions. But the kek people do LOVE Russia. Sorry you may be insulted by that.

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posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: introvert

There's another wrinkle here... Wikileaks has been the provider of almost all of these documents, dating back to before the Russians were even mentioned as a source for all of this information. The release of this week's "Vault 7" points to a CIA insider leaking the documents. If there is a mole in the CIA and much of these releases to Wikileaks have come directly from that mole, it makes sense that the CIA narrative would be "Russian hackers" or some other scapegoat in an attempt to conceal both the fact that the CIA was collecting all of this information AND to conceal the presence of any moles to the public, who would understandably have strong emotional reactions to such news.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 05:46 PM
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originally posted by: wacher
a reply to: reldra

If Russia did it, the question is why? Russia never hacked before. Russia isn't hacking in European referendums and elections. Why would Russia have felt the need to hack Podesta? For what reason? AFAIK, Hillary Clinton is quite cozy with Russia, no?


LOL. Saying they never hacked before into all of those is delusionall.
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