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Wire-tapping warrant psyop. All of our communications are already being recorded.

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posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 05:54 PM
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No article to reference, just want to know what my fellow ATS-ers are thinking.

All of this non-stop hype has to be about something other than a "warrant".

Especially considering the fact that all of our electronic communications are being recorded and monitored WITHOUT warrants.

This was revealed by Snowden and other whistle blowers: secret/illegal warrant-less spying on the American people by our public servants.

Warrant-less spying has also been one of the primary criticisms of the unPatriot Act.

Libertarians and others have said from the beginning, we're not opposed to investigating potential bad guys but there has to be oversight. The government has to go to a court and justify why they want to spy on that specific individual ie probable cause.

And this has been government's complaint: they dont want oversight. They want to operate in secrecy and illegally...

So whats all this REALLY about when the government already monitors and records everything WITHOUT a warrant...

And why now?



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posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 06:13 PM
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GULP!



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 06:42 PM
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It's like we really do live in a 24hr news cycle and we are but goldfish in a little glass tank. But we keep forgetting.
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posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:02 PM
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a reply to: gladtobehere

This is the larger issue being completely over looked from anything I've been seeing so far either.


But Clapper said no more perpetual surveillance state!



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:11 PM
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What are they going to do with all of our mundane and crazy?
Sell us stuff?
Otherwise it's a whole lot of effort for not much of anything.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:32 PM
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Every single bit of it- and that's why the fbi is about to pardon hundreds of pedos. They don't want to fess up.

Things are looking bleak for this year.
Maybe the deep state wants to reduce us to anti gov mind so they can blame it on trump?



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: c2oden

It's all done via AI automation. Voice transcribed into text files. Your 'whole life' chronicled and cataloged. Forever.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 03:36 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Yeah, NBC had Charles Clapper on to deny Trump Tower was being wire tapped. I thought to myself, "Isn't this the same guy that told the American populace that the NSA wasn't collecting databases on the citizenry?" We all know better than that now. Yet, he's "trustworthy"? Ok.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 07:29 PM
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a reply to: Rosinitiate

This morning I was speaking with an assistant clerk of courts in Massachusetts. I asked him if he'd heard about the Vault 7 Wikileak. He had no idea what I was talking about. I told him some of the headlines about it, this was about 9:30 EST and hadn't learned much yet. He was shocked. His response told me he had no idea what Snowden had divulged. When I informed him that virtually everything he does on his smartphone was recorded and saved by the NSA, he just shrugged. I can't believe the apathy. This man is not a millenial, he's a middle-aged, highly educated professional. I just will never understand.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: gladtobehere

The NSA didn't build the UTAH Data complex to archive pornography. Though they probably record that too.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: TobyFlenderson

Yeah, people's attitude in regards to it baffles me too. I don't get how someone can logically argue that "It's not a big deal." However, that's at least half of the population's attitude towards it. It baffles the # out of me frankly.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 09:28 PM
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I know this might come as a shock to most civilians, but really....unless you make it a big deal it really isn't.

My father had a high security clearance when I was a kid, and I was a bit of your par for the course military brat....our lines were no doubt monitored.

Growing up knowing this, it still didn't stop me from prank calling people when I was bored. Prince Albert in a can, refrigerator running, so on so forth.

Amazingly, no one in a suit ever showed up at our door flashing a badge and I never had to answer any questions about my use of the communications services.

Anyone out there remember Party Lines?

Everyone out in the boonies knew everyone elses business and Society is still standing.

Sorry, no paranoia here.


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posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 09:44 PM
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a reply to: GENERAL EYES
Sorry, but kids and neighbors knowing your business is a whole lot different than government agencies collecting databased information to be used for... To be used for what? When? Why?

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posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: GENERAL EYES

It's not paranoia if it true. The old argument about not worrying if you have nothing to hide is absurd to me. First of all, what you did on your old landline is nothing compared to what you do on your smartphone, laptop, tv, etc.. It's axiomatic that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The government is supposed to protect our rights, they take an oath to do so. Not only are the actively violating our rights, they are allowing other people to do so. Not sure what else you need to learn about our government to make you not trust them.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 09:48 PM
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DOUBLE POST REMOVED
(see below)

Sorry about that.

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posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 09:48 PM
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a reply to: SpeakerofTruth

The majority of it just gets dumped.

You seriously think they're going to waste server space holding on to conversations about Grandmas cookie recipes, teenage dramas and the everyday conversations of millions of Americans babbling about minutia?

We aren't that special.

You might like to think otherwise because you have such a high opinion of yourself, but really you aren't even two farts in the wind when it comes down to what these communication monitoring programs are looking for.

Common freaking sense never hurt anyone, paranoia on the other hand...

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posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: TobyFlenderson

The paranoia aspect is that you're all freaking out over having your lives monitored "by the gubbmint" but yet here you are, posting openly on the internet where any deranged freak, weirdo or social misfit can read your posting history and get a fairly comprehensive idea of your political sentiments and how far off the map your fears and phobias might be...but oh dear, that scary ol' gubbmint. Whatever shall we do? Fits of panic and sound the alarm! Call to arms call to arms!

I've been hearing this fearful surveillance fit for my entire life, and yes, now it's more widespread in it's application, but I still have yet to hear of people being drug out of their homes for having casual conversations with people.

I think your tinfoil might be a bit tight on this one.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: GENERAL EYES

I am glad you have so much trust in your beloved gubmint. You keep that. One day you'll choke on that same trust. Some of you amuze me.
To think that your gubmint is only trying to "purtect" you. That's "cute." Really.
Though, you're right about one thing. There's other threats. I have seen some really sick minds on the internet... There's no debating that. I'm also pretty sure they're not listening to people talk about lunch either. But.. Bomb... Guess what, this has just been flagged because of a single word that isn't applicable to anything.
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posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 10:13 PM
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a reply to: SpeakerofTruth

Hey man, you're totally free to live your life as you see fit.

Just find it sadly amusing you choose to live in fear and call it freedom.

Have fun out there.

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posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 10:22 PM
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a reply to: GENERAL EYES

Nah, living in fear is being afraid of all of these invisible "terrorists" running around and thinking that is license to allow your government to video and photograph the average American over 200 times every day. That's living in fear. Where are all of these "bogeymen" by the way that's going to blow you and your family up? You're more likely to die from a piece of furniture falling on you, and that's the case anywhere on the globe you live, not just in the U S. But, yeah, let's turn it all into massive surveillance. That makes "sense."
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