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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: Krazysh0t
There's that, yes.
As a staffer, I try and stay apart from taking sides. Not always easy, but worth the effort.
So yeah, not real big on compromise myself. It usually strikes me that political compromise almost always consists of the liberals demanding they either be given something or something be taken away from Conservatives while conservatives fight to reduce the cost to conservative voters... OK, any manner of compromise on our part in those scenarios equals a loss of money, rights, time, convenience, etc while the liberal "concessions" on their side are almost always just them getting a bit less of what they wanted, but still getting something. That's just some mutant offspring of extortion and grift and has no mutual benefit to it whatsoever. It's like the school bully walking up to a kid and saying "Hey, I'm mad so I'm gonna kick you in the nuts." but eventually being compromised down to just an atomic nougie. End result is that the kid still gets abused by the bully, just not as bad. I dream of a world free of abuse and full of personal freedoms and responsibility.
originally posted by: syrinx high priest
a reply to: Irishhaf
ATS used to hate sheeple and mock lazy thinking
it has been taken over by the alt-right nut jobs
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Irishhaf
This is why we really should push to have a three party system. Any more parties and it would be too many, but with three you still have several competing opinions but you also have the odd number to prevent gridlocks and encourage compromise.
...If political differences of opinion and discussion of the same in a relatively respectful manner constitutes "mudslinging" in your view, you might be part of the more serious problem in American politics: the inability to discuss differing political opinions without taking the discussion personally.
Are we not supposed to be the awake people, the more aware of the seedy under belly of world politics...
yet just like the rest of the populace we have chosen are side and we are digging in to defend it.
...What I'm getting at is that there's a disconnect. The brainwashed liberal isn't really liberal or progressive. The brainwashed conservative, is too hostile and willing to believe corporate propaganda to truly be a rugged individualist or a true conservative.
Both sides fail to realize that we're all Americans, not republicans and democrats. They fail to realize that in real situations, like the army, in combat, it makes no difference if you voted for Obama or Romney.
The solution? Basically you talk to someone that partisan just like you talk to someone that is in a Cult. You don't ask direct questions. You support them but don't accuse or directly confront them, it will only drive them away. Build trust by talking about commonalities. Listen to them without openly judging them. Without making this post too long you would look up Cults and how to rescue Cult members in google and that should help us.