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Here's Why Heads Will Probably Roll Over Obama Wiretapping Trump

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posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 09:48 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Or, you know, it just didn't happen at all, no matter what conspiracy theory radio talk-show guys say. Or if it did, it was actually a probe of a resident/ tenant of Trump Tower and had literally nothing to do with the president personally?




posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:18 AM
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When are you guys going to realize that this all began with Right Wing propaganda tools putting out this narrative and Trump fell for it, and tweeted about it?

Again, he fell for Right Wing propaganda!

And you guys are falling for it as well.

I think it's safe to say that Trump, and many of you, have crossed the line in to full-retard territory.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:19 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
When are you guys going to realize that this all began with Right Wing propaganda tools putting out this narrative and Trump fell for it, and tweeted about it?

Again, he fell for Right Wing propaganda!

And you guys are falling for it as well.

I think it's safe to say that Trump, and many of you, have crossed the line in to full-retard territory.


Speculation.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:32 AM
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There was an order in June knocked down. Clinton talked to Lynch early July. I think she scolded on two things that day. One, make the charges against HRC go away and two why was the FISA not approved. You see, they could have made 'Russian allegations' then. July 22nd all the rest of the email was released. It goes on and on.

All this shows is that there was an internal battle to fix this election, and after all they did to try to stop it, it still did not.

The more that comes out now is giving validation to many stories in 2016 that could not have the dots connected properly.

Who is winning by default and proxy because of the DNC/RNC collusion and hate? Russia. There was not even anything that actually happened but all of the pieces were put in place to villifiy Trump and it did not happen. Now, our country is in a state of confusion not because of the new administration but because of the transition and the remnants. If I was a foreign country I would attack us right now. We would plunge into anarchy. Right out of the Art of War. I would then blame it on those behind the scenes trying to control what they cannot.

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posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:43 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
When are you guys going to realize that this all began with Right Wing propaganda tools putting out this narrative and Trump fell for it, and tweeted about it?

Again, he fell for Right Wing propaganda!

And you guys are falling for it as well.

I think it's safe to say that Trump, and many of you, have crossed the line in to full-retard territory.


James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence up until Trumps Inauguration...Said it never happened.

James Comey, Current head of the FBI UNDER TRUMP has asked the Department of Justice, UNDER TRUMP..TO publicly issue a statement explaining the claim is Horse#.

That on top of dozens of Obama Officials, Lawmakers both left and right..And Trumps own staff asking WTF?

Sean Spicer...panicked at having to defend the ludicrous claims of an unhinged boss...Issued a statement asking for an investigation and saying WE WONT ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS!!!

That is Hilarious...Poor guy..

Trump made the claim as fact...then wants an investigation to see if it happened?

He is a dumbass that has no idea how investigations work.

"Trump is a pedophile"
Ask me for proof?
I will not provide any proof or answer any questions until there is an investigation by both houses of congress into Trumps pedophilia!!!

Trump was so disturbed by his Watergate proportions revelation that he immediately followed that Tweet with the shocking reveal that Arnold Swartzeneger didn't resign, but was fired from the Apprentice do to bad ratings...cuz Trump was the best reality TV Star ever!

After that he went golfing...

Meanwhile...in reality land...That doesn't center on Trump's half-operable brain and paranoid ego...North Korea tests missiles AGAIN and US Troops are in harms way trying to secure Mosul and in other parts of the world.

The guy is a complete effen head-case...And every day... GOP in congress ask..how long do we need to put up with this nut-case to get our bills passed.
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posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5
"Trump is a pedophile"
Ask me for proof?
I will not provide any proof or answer any questions until there is an investigation by both houses of congress into Trumps pedophilia!!!

This is great example of what the Trump supporters are doing today. "We should just investigate JUST because Trump said something. After all, we don't know if it ISN'T true for sure." Well yeah, besides the starting lack of any evidence to say it IS true.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yes, they are a difference of semantics. They were investigating what his server was saying (directed, of course, by trump) rather than what his voice was saying. Semantics. It's disingenuous to not even attempt to reconcile the possible meaning of a trump tweet. This wasn't a prepared speech, it was a 140 character tweet.

And that really boils down to the core of why the left has been losing so badly. These arguments play well to the hard lefties, but the middle tries to actually understand. Here's what the center see's: Was trump tower surveilled? Yep, at least in one way, possibly more, Obama's admin did spy on reporters, citizens, and allied leaders, so it's not a huge leap for them to believe it's quite possible he'd do the same to trump.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:51 AM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yes, they are a difference of semantics. They were investigating what his server was saying (directed, of course, by trump) rather than what his voice was saying. Semantics. It's disingenuous to not even attempt to reconcile the possible meaning of a trump tweet. This wasn't a prepared speech, it was a 140 character tweet.

And that really boils down to the core of why the left has been losing so badly. These arguments play well to the hard lefties, but the middle tries to actually understand. Here's what the center see's: Was trump tower surveilled? Yep, at least in one way, possibly more, Obama's admin did spy on reporters, citizens, and allied leaders, so it's not a huge leap for them to believe it's quite possible he'd do the same to trump.

The justice department doesn't care about your partisan slant here. They DO care about the "semantics" that you are trying to just hand wave away though, and Trump's investigation will go nowhere.

Also lol at the middle. Only Trump supporters believe this lunacy. The middle on the partisan aisle knows this is horse#.
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posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:51 AM
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James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence up until Trumps Inauguration...Said it never happened.


He also said trump has no ties to russia in the same interview, do you believe him?



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:53 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yes, and to them it will be important because they have all of the relevant data (warrants, requests, intel gahtered, leaks, etc.) but we don't have that info, so we are stuck arguing over the basic premise.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:53 AM
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a reply to: Indigo5

James Clapper said... so what. He is a proven liar and Obama's man.
Comey has not said what you attribute to him. You are lying (again).
Many people do seem to be asking WTF... combination of shock and denial. That is what the investigation is for.

You missed those that have said it is entirely plausible and those that have agreed to investigate, including the House Intelligence Committee and the Senate.

There will be an investigation and no amount of crying (and lying) is going to change that.

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posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yes, and to them it will be important because they have all of the relevant data (warrants, requests, intel gahtered, leaks, etc.) but we don't have that info, so we are stuck arguing over the basic premise.

Well you maybe. I've already come to a conclusion due to the lack of evidence.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:55 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Amazing how that part of the same conversation is left out.

Clapper does not want anyone looking further into this.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Really they should be excited about an investigation. If trump has ties to russia this would lead everyone to knowing. But common sense screams in the back of their mind that he doesn't as no solid info has leaked saying he does. That's why they don't want this investigation, it's only downside for the failed Obama admin.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Really they should be excited about an investigation. If trump has ties to russia this would lead everyone to knowing. But common sense screams in the back of their mind that he doesn't as no solid info has leaked saying he does. That's why they don't want this investigation, it's only downside for the failed Obama admin.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Indigo5

James Clapper said... so what. He is a proven liar and Obama's man.
Comey has not said what you attribute to him. You are lying (again).
Many people do seem to be asking WTF... combination of shock and denial. That is what the investigation is for.

Lol the "many people are doing such and such" defense. Just attribute a random number of people to a cause to make it sound more pressing than it really is.

Oh btw:
FBI Director Comey Asked Justice Department to Reject Trump’s Wiretap Claims

FBI Director James Comey asked Justice Department officials to publicly reject President Donald Trump's claims that former President Barack Obama ordered the wiretapping of Trump Tower, The New York Times reported Sunday. A senior U.S. official confirmed the newspaper's reporting to NBC News.

The Times reported that Comey requested that the Justice Department publicly rebut the president's allegations — which he posted on Twitter without evidence — because the claims are untrue and suggest that the FBI broke the law. Comey's appeal pits him against the president.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 11:08 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Indigo5

James Clapper said... so what. He is a proven liar and Obama's man.
Comey has not said what you attribute to him. You are lying (again).


From Fox news to CNN...It's being reported everywhere..Comey asked Justice to put out a statement explaining Trump's claim was utterly false.

And it looks like Sessions might have been the one to say no? Which would violate his recusal pledge...It's just amazing, when the FBI, along with the CIA and NSA do present full evidence, the number of people implicated will make Watergate look quaint.



There will be an investigation and no amount of crying (and lying) is going to change that.


LOL...
There IS an investigation...Multiple ones...Into Trumps collusion with Russia (no new investigation)

And no amount of Trump Tantrum and deflection is going to stop it.



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posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 11:08 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Indigo5

James Clapper said... so what. He is a proven liar and Obama's man.
Comey has not said what you attribute to him. You are lying (again).
Many people do seem to be asking WTF... combination of shock and denial. That is what the investigation is for.

Lol the "many people are doing such and such" defense. Just attribute a random number of people to a cause to make it sound more pressing than it really is.

Oh btw:
FBI Director Comey Asked Justice Department to Reject Trump’s Wiretap Claims

FBI Director James Comey asked Justice Department officials to publicly reject President Donald Trump's claims that former President Barack Obama ordered the wiretapping of Trump Tower, The New York Times reported Sunday. A senior U.S. official confirmed the newspaper's reporting to NBC News.

The Times reported that Comey requested that the Justice Department publicly rebut the president's allegations — which he posted on Twitter without evidence — because the claims are untrue and suggest that the FBI broke the law. Comey's appeal pits him against the president.


Read more fully. James Comey has not made a statement. This is a quote from an 'American official'.
When he makes a statement - or the DoJ make a statement - let me know.

What we do know is that the House Intelligence Committee has made an official statement that they will be investigating this and also Jason Chaffetz, from the Oversight Committee has confirmed he will also get involved to help, citing Obama's form at doing this kind of thing as making the claim plausible.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Indigo5

James Clapper said... so what. He is a proven liar and Obama's man.
Comey has not said what you attribute to him. You are lying (again).


From Fox news to CNN...It's being reported everywhere..Comey asked Justice to put out a statement explaining Trump's claim was utterly false.

And it looks like Sessions might have been the one to say no? Which would violate his recusal pledge...It's just amazing, when the FBI, along with the CIA and NSA do present full evidence, the number of people implicated will make Watergate look quaint.



There will be an investigation and no amount of crying (and lying) is going to change that.


LOL...
There IS an investigation...Multiple ones...Into Trumps collusion with Russia (no new investigation)

And no amount of Trump Tantrum and deflection is going to stop it.




The investigations into Russian and Trump campaign collusion has yielded nothing, after months. You are going to look very very foolish if they finish with no evidence. Not quite as much as on Nov 9th 2016, but close.

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posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 11:14 AM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: UKTruth

Really they should be excited about an investigation. If trump has ties to russia this would lead everyone to knowing. But common sense screams in the back of their mind that he doesn't as no solid info has leaked saying he does. That's why they don't want this investigation, it's only downside for the failed Obama admin.


What investigation? You guys are operating with faulty thinking centers, warped by propaganda..

There is nothing but the investigations ALREADY in progress concerning Russia..

And YES...FULL STEAM AHEAD...Comey is pissed now...



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